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Old July 3rd, 2014, 02:56 AM   #2881
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That's MPH*, please. ;-) to the Austrian thread.

*90 of 'em.
Seriously, though: where?

PS: By the way, "the Province" referred to but never named in Chris's post is British Columbia.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 03:37 AM   #2882
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Closing an entire lane in order to put a sign up on the side of the road????
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I thought that at first too, but I am sure the lane closure was only for the carefully choreographed photo-shoot.
The highway contractor would have had their trucks parked in the closed lane. The photographer would have parked nearby off the motorway at a pre determined location and then walked up as this pic is at an interchange between the Trans Canada and HWY 5.
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Old July 3rd, 2014, 03:42 AM   #2883
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That's MPH*, please. ;-) to the Austrian thread.

*90 of 'em.
Seriously, though: where?

PS: By the way, "the Province" referred to but never named in Chris's post is British Columbia.
Sorry, 85 in TX and Utah... I know it is literally only 137 km/h but... remember those early 80's NHTSA-mandated US speedometers that could only read to 85, so there was a peg, and 140 km/h marked after the peg
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Old July 8th, 2014, 02:42 AM   #2884
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The Westminster Drive / Highway 401 overpass in London was demolished this weekend to make way for highway widening between Highways 4 and 402.

Bridge info: http://www.historicbridges.org/bridg...westminster%2F

A couple pics I took

A few hours before death.


Stopped by in the night to try and catch a glimpse of the demolition but every road around it was closed so couldn't get close. This was the best photo I could get... excuse the bad quality (at extreme zoom)


The overpass is being quickly replaced with a new bridge designed to span 8 lanes, although I doubt the 401 will ever be that wide west of the 402.



Bonus: Pic I took from the bridge in 2010:

Via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontari...way_401#Future
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Old July 8th, 2014, 04:40 AM   #2885
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just like how they are designing the 404 extension for an ultimate 10 lane configuration.. stupidly unlikely to occur, but probably best to plan for the worst I guess. who knows what things will be like in 60 years.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 08:45 PM   #2886
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A new bridge opened to traffic south of Ottawa.



location: http://goo.gl/maps/0iSqE

This is the first bridge in this area despite significant suburbanization on both sides of the river.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 01:01 AM   #2887
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it's amusing, they made a "green belt" around the city so that it would not make too much suburbs, but instead they just jumped it
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Old July 13th, 2014, 12:16 PM   #2888
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Artificial urban boundaries such as green belts are usually good for two things; exorbitant housing prices and exceedingly / unnecessary long commuting times because of developments beyond the green belt. Growing cities need more space.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 12:12 AM   #2889
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They can work if implemented properly, Toronto's is working wonderfully. Urban area growth has gone from 27% between 1991 and 2001 to 7% between 2001 and 2011, despite population growth remaining the same (Roughly 100,000 people a year). You have to leave some space for outward growth within the boundary and have to also implement policies that encourage denser development.

The problem with Ottawa is that it is only something like 4km wide, and there are no land use policies alongside it to try and reduce outwardly growth. It's reasoning for implementation wasn't to reduce sprawl either from my understanding as it has been around since well before planning started to put real negative connotations on sprawl.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 12:21 AM   #2890
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Portland, Oregon's got something too. No idea how well it works.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 04:55 AM   #2891
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They can work if implemented properly, Toronto's is working wonderfully. Urban area growth has gone from 27% between 1991 and 2001 to 7% between 2001 and 2011, despite population growth remaining the same (Roughly 100,000 people a year). You have to leave some space for outward growth within the boundary and have to also implement policies that encourage denser development.
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Is it really the case? It seems more like Toronto has just hit the boundaries of adjacent urban areas and has turned into one big Niagara-Barrie/ Hamilton-Clarington conurbation... I remember being there and they were advertising houses, just off Hwy 400... at Horseshoe Valley Rd, I looked a map for fun, o kurwa

Toronto's sprawl though has a natural limiting factor of the lake on one side, and already like 100 km length across, only so far you can go One thing that sucks though about these policies, housing has become tremendously expensive... a detached single-family home (this means 4 walls, for some reason people in TO think duplex counts) with garage built in the 1950's needing work is easily 500 000 dollars and your drive to work will still be 1 hour each way if you are lucky. I was looking at some homes built recently for 1 million dollars, the houses were nice size, but the lot was tiny, to walk from front yard to back yard, you would have to walk sideways they were so close. This really sucks.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 05:26 AM   #2892
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Is it really the case? It seems more like Toronto has just hit the boundaries of adjacent urban areas and has turned into one big Niagara-Barrie/ Hamilton-Clarington conurbation... I remember being there and they were advertising houses, just off Hwy 400... at Horseshoe Valley Rd, I looked a map for fun, o kurwa
The Greenbelt wasn't implemented until 2005, so much of the area was already built up. The Greenbelt covers some of the best farmland in the country, and while it's not perfect, I think things would be worse without it.

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Old July 14th, 2014, 06:59 AM   #2893
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The greenbelts biggest "hole" is the 400, really. Places to Grow (the accompanying land use policy) affects most of southern Ontario however, and is the real primary driver of the reduction of sprawl. Notice the huge white area around the existing urban boundary in that image, the greenbelt leaves plenty of space for the city to sprawl still, it's the land use policy that is preventing that space from filling up in 15 years and having development jump the greenbelt. Instead that land will probably last until the 2050's or later at current rates.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 08:21 AM   #2894
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Hasn't Southern Ontario been completely developed (almost 100%?) whether it be housing, industrial, farming?

Its fascinating to look at on a map. I really wish all that fertile land reached farther north
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Including farming, yes. Urban development, far from it. It's an extremely densely populated area with 10+ million people living in southern Ontario, but it's far from built out. The stuff I have been talking about is designed to make it so it isn't completely developed however.
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Portland, Oregon's got something too. No idea how well it works.
It doesn't really work. Although Portland is more bicycle friendly than other American cities, the urban area is almost entirely low density, yet with far higher housing prices and much more intense traffic congestion than other cities of this size.

Portland had the 39th highest TTI (Travel Time Index) among large metropolitan areas in 1982, but climbed to the 5th highest in 2012. At the same time, the transit share has remained essentially flat.
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Old July 15th, 2014, 11:05 AM   #2897
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Including farming, yes. Urban development, far from it. It's an extremely densely populated area with 10+ million people living in southern Ontario, but it's far from built out. The stuff I have been talking about is designed to make it so it isn't completely developed however.
Southern Ontario can only be called 'extremely densely populated' by north American standards. Southern Ontario (126,819 sq km) and England (130,395 sq km) are almost identical in land area yet England is home to 53 million people. If southern Ontario (12.5 million people) were a US state it would be roughly the 11th most densely populated, less dense than Ohio but denser than California. New Jersey is 5 times denser than southern Ontario.

It's true that the best southern Ontario farmland is all under cultivation, but I doubt we've come close to using all of our commercially viable agricultural land.
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This is the first instance of a 120 km/h (75 mph) speed limit in Canada if I'm correct.
I believe so. I know that Moncton has had a section just south of the city with a 110km/h speed limit for over a decade, but this is the first faster than that I've seen.
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It's true that the best southern Ontario farmland is all under cultivation, but I doubt we've come close to using all of our commercially viable agricultural land.
Surely it must be right now, nobody would leave money on the table...
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Lots of highways in Alberta have 110km/h as well, but this is the first 120km/h.

Most viable agricultural land in Ontario is in use, yes. Agricultural use has actually contracted since it's peak when farmers would try and grow crops on anything with more than a foot of soil. The Muskoka area at one time was essentially clear cut and littered with farms, but has since reverted to wilderness as it isn't viable farmland. (This is why no forests in the area are old growth, it's difficult to find a tree over 100-120 years old)

Densely populated isn't southern Ontario as a whole which includes large tracts of in uninhabited land between Toronto and Ottawa, I meant more so the tract between Peterborough and London.
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