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Old January 18th, 2015, 12:27 PM   #3181
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Places like Edmonton or Grande Prairie or Fort McMurray have been fast-growing in the past decades, but it's still a small share of the entire Canadian population. Yukon has very high growth rates in recent years, but the base is very small.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 06:42 PM   #3182
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Places like Edmonton or Grande Prairie or Fort McMurray have been fast-growing in the past decades, but it's still a small share of the entire Canadian population.
Indeed, the city of Edmonton had just 800,000 inhabitants in 2011, Calgary 1,100,000. It was just 5% of the Canadian population (2.2% + 3.1%). The metropolitan populations were just 6.6%.
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Old January 19th, 2015, 12:05 AM   #3183
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The metro of Calgary and Edmonton put together equal roughly half of the Toronto Metro.. Canada is truly dominated in population by Ontario and Quebec. Ontario alone has over 30% of the population. You see that reflected in the posts here too, focused on Ontario and Quebec. Outside of the oil rich areas (Alberta), there is very little northern population growth as well. Its simply too cold and remote. Northern Ontario has been stagnating in population for decades.

Its really quite interesting, Southern Ontario is very densely populated, some sections are above most areas of Europe. Outside of it however, Canadas population density goes off a cliff. you can drive 3 hours from Toronto and get to parts of the country that have so few people living in them that local municipalities are administered by the province as there simply isn't anyone living there..

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Old January 19th, 2015, 04:07 PM   #3184
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Canada's population overall is quite urban (or better: suburban). It always intrigues me how there are no large cities in the maritimes.
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Old January 19th, 2015, 05:00 PM   #3185
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Well, what's your threshold for "large"?
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Old January 19th, 2015, 05:05 PM   #3186
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Larger than Halifax Metropolitan areas of over 1 million people.

The U.S. developed a number of large cities in the Northeast. That didn't happen across the border in Canada (admittedly, Maine doesn't have large cities along the coast either).

As far as I know the Canadian maritimes have mostly ice-free ports.
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Old January 19th, 2015, 05:10 PM   #3187
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If you were in Quebec or Ontario in the mid-19th century and had goods you needed to get to Europe, it was easier to get them to Boston or New York. Or wait until spring and send them down the Saint Lawrence.

That's one reason Canada happened, actually: building a railway (called the Intercolonial, if I'm not mistaken) between what was then the Province of Canada (modern Quebec and Ontario) and New Brunswick and Nova Scotia would be easier if London didn't have to sign off on it, as they did when separate colonies were involved. Solution: create a sort of Federal super-colony covering the whole of British North America.
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indeed, but also a big thing was the new federal gov't paying for it (mostly in land)

I suspect the Martimes would have been bigger, especially Nova Scotia and NB if the Canada didn't happen though - almost immediately because of Macdonald's high tarriff policies, the Maritimes trade with the US evaporated. Halifax was pretty big in 1860 (compared to rest of Canada today)
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A couple of views of the 407 ETR in Ontario:



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Old January 20th, 2015, 03:57 AM   #3190
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The ROW is so mammoth
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Old January 20th, 2015, 05:53 AM   #3191
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Lane discipline's atrocious.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 05:54 AM   #3192
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Doesn't bother me.

(And I've beeeeen to Untario, several times. Eh?)
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and who says Texas is the only one with big highways?
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Toronto is the only Canadian with very wide freeways though. Calgary has some eight-lane sections, but Montréal has a denser network with less wide autoroutes. Vancouver's freeway network is very undersized, the metro area is often quoted for ranking one of the the worst in North America for its travel time index.
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vielen Dank It is weird though, I would think "welcome to" instead. I guess, im Englischen makes sense but in German is the other way

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Toronto is the only Canadian with very wide freeways though. Calgary has some eight-lane sections, but Montréal has a denser network with less wide autoroutes. Vancouver's freeway network is very undersized, the metro area is often quoted for ranking one of the the worst in North America for its travel time index.
There is planned a 16 lane collector-express system for the southwest Calgary, which would carry the 201 Stoney Trail ring road and the unnamed "outer ring road" eventually to be made. Construction on outer lanes is supposed to start very soon, but the oil price krach may have killed it just after they finally got the Tsuu Tina to approve it It is like God does not want that road at all
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There is planned a 16 lane collector-express system for the southwest Calgary, which would carry the 201 Stoney Trail ring road and the unnamed "outer ring road" eventually to be made. Construction on outer lanes is supposed to start very soon, but the oil price krach may have killed it just after they finally got the Tsuu Tina to approve it It is like God does not want that road at all
There are long term plans to build a core-distributor roadway in Edmonton as well from the southern ring road down to the airport.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 01:01 AM   #3199
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That's true, the outer lanes are already built since the 1970's

I remember passing there the first time, the median is so wide. And then this magnificent highway turns into this city street with lights...

edit... it looks like they've done something screwy to it now, they made an interchange and the lanes bunch up together off on the side, about 4 miles south of Henday.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 05:40 AM   #3200
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Edmonton's airport is quite far away from the city. The QE2 is quite busy down to Leduc. I could see 8 lanes south to the airport (currently 6), possibly with additional bus lanes or even a LRT connection, but nothing wider than that.


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Cost me a $50 for a taxi from the University of Alberta to the airport. (Missed the bus, would have missed my flight otherwise )

Edmonton will soon be the first Canadian city with a controlled-access ring road.
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