daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Highways & Autobahns

Highways & Autobahns All about automobility



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old November 21st, 2015, 02:05 AM   #3561
Kanadzie
Registered User
 
Kanadzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,375
Likes (Received): 748

The Tar Island area interchange I believe was built privately by Suncor so their workers could get into the parking lot faster IIRC

Interesting to see the Parsons interchange coming together. The original ultimate plan they were showing had a giant cloverstack style interchange feeding full freeways on either side, with the east-west one supposed to eventually connect with existing secondary hwy #686 way in the west. Totally crazy to imagine
Probably with present econmic activity in this region such plan will be totally iced. But note how they have already started construction on the next local interchange of the hwy 686 freeway immediately to the west

http://conf.tac-atc.ca/english/annua...-14/biller.pdf

The whole Fort McMurray development was really interesting. It is sad the infrastructure construction was never even remotely close to the demand during the boom, not even houses for people, and consequently in the bust so many people just left instead of keeping enough economies of scale to diversify the local economy (and have a real northern metropolis in North America ) Maybe in 50 years and a few new booms happen.
__________________
100 coups de fouet, si vous n'ętes pas morts de rire !
Kanadzie no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old November 22nd, 2015, 01:13 PM   #3562
geogregor
Registered User
 
geogregor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London
Posts: 15,528
Likes (Received): 19203

Continuing journey to Vancouver:

DSC00901
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00902
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00903
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00904
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00906
by Geogregor*, on Flickr

British Columbia visitor centre at the Junction in Merritt

P9180714
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


P9180719
by Geogregor*, on Flickr

Entering Hwy 5 (Coquihalla Highway), main highway to Vancouver.
Ho hitch-hiking

DSC00907
by Geogregor*, on Flickr

Last edited by geogregor; November 24th, 2015 at 09:07 AM.
geogregor no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 22nd, 2015, 01:17 PM   #3563
geogregor
Registered User
 
geogregor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London
Posts: 15,528
Likes (Received): 19203

120km/h the highest speed limit in Canada

DSC00908
by Geogregor*, on Flickr

Another weather warning

DSC00909
by Geogregor*, on Flickr

Greyhound

DSC00915
by Geogregor*, on Flickr

They just renovated the surface so only temporary road marking

DSC00916
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00920
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00921
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00923
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00925
by Geogregor*, on Flickr

Cool snowshed:

IMG_0559
by Geogregor*, on Flickr
geogregor no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 24th, 2015, 09:03 AM   #3564
geogregor
Registered User
 
geogregor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London
Posts: 15,528
Likes (Received): 19203

Trans-Canada Highway in Fraser Valley


DSC00931
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00932
by Geogregor*, on Flickr

171 km to the end

DSC00934
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00935
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00938
by Geogregor*, on Flickr


DSC00939
by Geogregor*, on Flickr
geogregor no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 24th, 2015, 12:07 PM   #3565
jlaw
Registered User
 
jlaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Metro Manila
Posts: 79
Likes (Received): 23

Toronto to Niagara Falls pls.
jlaw no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 25th, 2015, 01:49 AM   #3566
Kanadzie
Registered User
 
Kanadzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,375
Likes (Received): 748

LOL why, that road sucks

there's a nice series on asphaltplanet.com though

In road-construction news, the report of the inquiry into corruption in public construction projects in Quebec was released today:

http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/...au-report.html
http://montrealgazette.com/news/loca...-quebec-reacts

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...dations-952836
__________________
100 coups de fouet, si vous n'ętes pas morts de rire !
Kanadzie no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 25th, 2015, 01:56 AM   #3567
NFZANMNIM
Registered User
 
NFZANMNIM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Abadeh-Isfahan-Shiraz+Toronto
Posts: 1,897
Likes (Received): 819

The only good parts are Hamilton's Bridge, and Welland Channel Bridge.
Elsewhere, it looks like a typical upstate NY highway
NFZANMNIM no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 25th, 2015, 02:05 AM   #3568
Kanadzie
Registered User
 
Kanadzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,375
Likes (Received): 748

When I passed over the Burlington Skyway tonight going home, the sight of the moon was spectacular
clear sky, big moon, and its reflection shimmered in the lake, it was really something
Even the traffic wasn't so bad (around 18:15)
__________________
100 coups de fouet, si vous n'ętes pas morts de rire !
Kanadzie no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 26th, 2015, 12:55 AM   #3569
Haljackey
Registered User
 
Haljackey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: London, Ontario
Posts: 703
Likes (Received): 107

Don Valley Parkway at Eglinton Avenue in Toronto

Former cloverleaf.



Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ai360/...in/dateposted/
__________________
My Twitter

My Simcity Stuff

Innsertnamehere liked this post
Haljackey no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 26th, 2015, 07:01 AM   #3570
Cricket_Fan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 616
Likes (Received): 1120

Any images/videos of the new 401 extension in Windsor?
Cricket_Fan no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 26th, 2015, 03:25 PM   #3571
sonysnob
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North York
Posts: 963
Likes (Received): 860

These are from before the most recent extension opened a few weeks ago, but I took a pretty detailed set of them here:


http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_4..._p1_images.htm
__________________
Asphaltplanet.ca

Cricket_Fan liked this post
sonysnob no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 26th, 2015, 09:18 PM   #3572
VoltAmps
Registered User
 
VoltAmps's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 171
Likes (Received): 49

Quote:
Originally Posted by NFZANMNIM View Post
The only good parts are Hamilton's Bridge, and Welland Channel Bridge.
Elsewhere, it looks like a typical upstate NY highway
Not at all

Upstate NY highways are much more scenic
VoltAmps no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2015, 04:42 AM   #3573
Cricket_Fan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 616
Likes (Received): 1120

Quote:
Originally Posted by sonysnob View Post
These are from before the most recent extension opened a few weeks ago, but I took a pretty detailed set of them here:


http://www.asphaltplanet.ca/ON/hwy_4..._p1_images.htm
Thank you very much. Yep, these appear to be of the extension that opened in in June. Do you have any of the extension that opened on Nov 20/21?

Something else to ponder -- MTO is reconstructing a 13km stretch in Tilbury right after the 401 changes from 6 to 4 lanes. But they're not widening it.. any ideas why? Seems like a good opportunity to widen it.

The MTO contract only talks about Westbound lanes, will eastbound not be reconstructed? http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/tra...tract2015-3007
Cricket_Fan no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2015, 12:55 PM   #3574
hkskyline
Hong Kong
 
hkskyline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 86,929
Likes (Received): 18195

407 ETR can no longer deny plates to bankrupt drivers: Fixer
17 November 2015
The Toronto Star Excerpt

Score one for the little guys, in the battle to rein in the 407 ETR’s collection practices and refusal to recognize bankruptcy law.

The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled that federal bankruptcy law trumps provincial legislation the 407 relied on to continue to pursue unpaid balances from people whose debts had been discharged by bankruptcy.

Anyone who’s been declared bankrupt can now have their 407 debt included in their discharge, and the company running the toll road can no longer deny them a licence-plate renewal.

The 407 issued a news release saying it “is immediately implementing the decision of the court” and that anyone approved for bankruptcy can have their 407 debt cleared.

The news release said it “will remove from plate denial pre-bankruptcy amounts owed by persons who have been discharged from bankruptcy and who have provided their discharge documents.”

It’s a huge win for people who have fought the 407’s refusal to recognize federal bankruptcy laws and the only setback to the ironclad contract that was inked with the former Tory government to lease the road for 99 years.

It has unparalleled power to use plate denial as a means of collection, and it charges interest of 26.82 per cent, compounded annually, on unpaid balances, all of which has been the ruin of many people.
__________________
Hong Kong Photo Gallery - Click Here for the Hong Kong Galleries

World Photo Gallery - | St. Petersburg, Russia | Pyongyang | Tokyo | Istanbul | Dubai | Shanghai | Mumbai | Bangkok | Sydney

New York, London, Prague, Iceland, Rocky Mountains, Angkor Wat, Sri Lanka, Poland, Myanmar, and much more!

Kanadzie liked this post
hkskyline no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2015, 02:58 PM   #3575
sonysnob
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North York
Posts: 963
Likes (Received): 860

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket_Fan View Post
Thank you very much. Yep, these appear to be of the extension that opened in in June. Do you have any of the extension that opened on Nov 20/21?

Something else to ponder -- MTO is reconstructing a 13km stretch in Tilbury right after the 401 changes from 6 to 4 lanes. But they're not widening it.. any ideas why? Seems like a good opportunity to widen it.

The MTO contract only talks about Westbound lanes, will eastbound not be reconstructed? http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/tra...tract2015-3007
I don't have any pictures of the most recent extension from after it opened. I do have a couple of photos from looking at the freeway from about two weeks before it opened from the ends of a couple of the tunnels. They are not online as of yet.

The westbound lanes are being reconstructed this construction season easterly from Tilbury. The eastbound lanes will be reconstructed next year. MTO will be reconstructing virtually the entire length of the 401 through Chatham and Elgin Counties in the coming years.

Official website:
http://hwy401reconstruction.ca/
__________________
Asphaltplanet.ca

Cricket_Fan liked this post

Last edited by sonysnob; November 27th, 2015 at 03:09 PM.
sonysnob no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2015, 08:53 PM   #3576
geogregor
Registered User
 
geogregor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: London
Posts: 15,528
Likes (Received): 19203

Quote:
Originally Posted by hkskyline View Post
It’s a huge win for people who have fought the 407’s refusal to recognize federal bankruptcy laws and the only setback to the ironclad contract that was inked with the former Tory government to lease the road for 99 years.
That is a very long lease. Most of the few we have in Poland are about 25-30 years long.

Is it the longest road lease in the world?
geogregor no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2015, 09:58 PM   #3577
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,612
Likes (Received): 19400

The common lease / concession is 20-30 years, but there are occasionally longer leases. For instance, the Indiana Toll Road was recently leased for 66 years.

I'm not a fan for such very long-term leases. If you want to change policy for whatever reason, and make the road toll-free, they would have to buy out the concessionaire, which may be very expensive (in fact, it's sometimes cheaper to construct a parallel toll-free highway, as Spain has done on several occasions). I also don't see the advantage of 30+ year leases. An existing lease can always be extended, as they frequently do with French toll roads, usually demanding some improvements in exchange.
ChrisZwolle no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 27th, 2015, 10:27 PM   #3578
Innsertnamehere
insertoronto
 
Innsertnamehere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,961
Likes (Received): 681

It was a political move to get fast cash flow to show a balanced budget in an election year. They sold that lease for $3 billion, allowing the PCs to have a "balanced" budget for the election, using a one time massive cash inflow. It worked too, the government held power for another 6 years after that. The highway is essentially privately owned, with all maintenance and expansion privately financed.

The original plan was to have the highway be tolled for 30 years to pay for its construction, then become toll free.. so the highway would have dropped tolls in 2027.

The move has become one of the most politically unpopular moves of the provincial government in the last several decades.

The 407 East extension is being done separately, with the Government retaining full ownership, instead only contracting out operations for a 30 year design-build-maintain contract, while the government retains toll profits. Its still a permanent toll road, but it maintains government ownership and thus isn't as unpopular.
Innsertnamehere no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 28th, 2015, 01:46 AM   #3579
Kanadzie
Registered User
 
Kanadzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,375
Likes (Received): 748

Indeed, the 99 year lease was insane

But the political lesson didn't take, HydroOne anyone?
__________________
100 coups de fouet, si vous n'ętes pas morts de rire !
Kanadzie no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 28th, 2015, 07:46 AM   #3580
hkskyline
Hong Kong
 
hkskyline's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 86,929
Likes (Received): 18195

Even after the costs have been re-couped, I doubt the tolls will go away. If the government took it back, they would want this cash cow to continue flowing. It is very hard to take away "taxes".
hkskyline no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
autoroute, highways, ontario, toronto

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 05:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium