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Old November 28th, 2015, 10:16 AM   #3581
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I agree that the lease is 99 years long, but the tolls are forever, and there are numerous strong advocates of tolling all of GTA highways

Also, what's the news on the progress of this project:
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Old November 28th, 2015, 04:56 PM   #3582
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There really hasn't been any notable progress made on Hwy 7 New. None of the construction contracts have been let as of yet.

The only work that has been completed so far is short extension to the Guelph Street underpass beneath Hwy 85 in Waterloo:





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Old November 28th, 2015, 07:06 PM   #3583
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Even after the costs have been re-couped, I doubt the tolls will go away. If the government took it back, they would want this cash cow to continue flowing. It is very hard to take away "taxes".
Just look at the New York "Thruway" roads... tolls were to finance construction bonds, which were paid off in like 2005 in full. Government in 1950's promised to abolish tolling when bonds were paid. But... 10 years later, tolls are still there!
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Old November 30th, 2015, 12:04 PM   #3584
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Approaching Vancouver:

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TCH run close to the US border here:

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CRossing times:

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We'll take Hwy 11.

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Old November 30th, 2015, 12:05 PM   #3585
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Passing Burnaby

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Old November 30th, 2015, 10:17 PM   #3586
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Highway 11/17 Nipigon, ON

The first half of Ontario's first cable-stayed bridge opened to traffic in Nipigon on November 28. It's part of a larger project to widen the Trans-Canada from Thunder Bay to Nipigon to four lanes. The bridge project will be completed by 2017.

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Old December 1st, 2015, 08:55 AM   #3587
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More roads around Vancouver

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Ironworkers Memorial Bridge, narrow
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Coming to the end of TCH

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Hwy 99 (Sea-to-Sky Highway)

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Old December 2nd, 2015, 09:36 PM   #3588
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Found this on YouTube. At 9:00 there's a railroad crossing over an expressway, with no barriers or traffic lights whatsoever. You can even see the train coming. Wow.

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Old December 3rd, 2015, 01:45 AM   #3589
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that's not exactly correct - there are two crossings both with lights
the second one the lights are flashing (i.e. road traffic must stop) but they ran through it anyway
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Old December 3rd, 2015, 01:45 AM   #3590
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Canadian road engineers like to do that for some reason, the same type of thing exists in Moncton.

Usually the lines that cross like that though are small spur lines that rarely have trains on them.
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Old December 5th, 2015, 02:54 AM   #3591
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Highway 407 East has unsurprisingly seen its opening date delayed until Spring 2016. The originally scheduled date was December 18th, which people have been predicting they would miss for months. it will be a toll road, but will operate toll free for the first few months.

http://www.thespec.com/news-story/61...ved-initially/


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Old December 5th, 2015, 03:10 AM   #3592
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that noise barrier 20 km from the nearest farmhouse is Polish-level absurdity
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Old December 5th, 2015, 06:03 AM   #3593
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You're late, and over budget, you might as well throw that thing in there to avoid any unlikely future liability issues
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Old December 5th, 2015, 07:34 AM   #3594
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It's the best-managed best cost-controlled and most on-time project or initiative of any kind the current provincial government has ever made!
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Old December 6th, 2015, 09:55 AM   #3595
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Hwy 99 in BC

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Start of the Trans-Canada Highway. Exit "0"

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Lion's Gate Bridge
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Old December 6th, 2015, 10:29 AM   #3596
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Start of the Trans-Canada Highway. Exit "0"
Not actually the start of the highway; Mile 0 is in Victoria, and there's a chunk of it running from there to Nanaimo. Exit 0 is just the start of this chunk of freeway - exits are numbered along the Trans-Canada from Horseshoe Bay to Hope, and then follow the Coquihalla Highway up to Kamloops where it (and the exit numbering) rejoins the Trans-Canada.
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Old December 7th, 2015, 08:18 PM   #3597
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Toronto HOT lanes

High-Occupancy Toll Lanes Pilot Coming to the QEW in Summer 2016

Province’s Pilot Project Offers New Option For Quicker Travel

A High-Occupancy Toll, or HOT, lane pilot project will begin on a section of the QEW between Trafalgar Road in Oakville and Guelph Line in Burlington in summer 2016 to help manage congestion and add another option for travellers.

The pilot is the first step of Ontario's plan to implement HOT lanes throughout the region. In this pilot project, existing High-Occupancy Vehicle (HOV) lanes on the QEW will be converted to HOT lanes. Carpools of two or more occupants will still be able to use the QEW HOT lanes for free, while single occupant drivers will now have the option to purchase a permit to use them. A limited number of permits will be available to allow single occupant drivers to use the HOT lanes during the pilot.
Full press release: http://news.ontario.ca/mto/en/2015/1...mmer-2016.html

More info: http://news.ontario.ca/mto/en/2015/1...oll-lanes.html
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Old December 8th, 2015, 01:58 AM   #3598
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It would be intriguing how they manage it. OPP loves to catch people on that stretch. They are present every morning and evening.

The HOV lane though does encounter pretty serious congestion especially in the Hamilton direction, usually it is stopped around Walkers Line because of the backlog of traffic to access the Niagara QEW...
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Old December 8th, 2015, 02:56 AM   #3599
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The fact that even after nearly five years of being open to traffic that there is still sufficient capacity along the QEW through Halton Region to facilitate the HOT program sort of reiterates the difficulty in getting motorists to carpool. Goes to show you that not every highway is a great candidate yo have HOV lanes.
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Old December 8th, 2015, 05:50 AM   #3600
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Goes to show you that not every highway is a great candidate yo have HOV lanes.
I think there's a lot of truth to this statement. Just because a highway is busy doesn't mean there should be HOV/HOT lanes on it.

I think they work best on 'commuter' highways, like the 404. Getting to work from home and vice versa is it's main goal. There isn't really a major destination or trunk route it connects to.

The QEW is a major trade and tourist corridor, much like the 401. While used by commuters, a good chunk of traffic on it is heading to a destination other than work or another major highway. These longer distance drivers won't benefit much from short HOV/HOT lanes (at least compared to overall drive), and trucks can't even use them! In this case traffic might flow better with unrestricted lanes.

I'm hoping these HOT lanes will come with a hefty fee to keep them operating at or close to their current efficiency. Maybe something comparable to the 407 ETR?

Additionally, with all the revenue that could come out of the project, maybe future the HOT lanes will also be built with a passing lane. Some places in the USA have this, but I doubt it will be done here due to cost/constrictions. 2 lanes in each direction will be a much more attractive design to draw in 'customers' using the general lanes. You're marketing to the rich now, not carpoolers looking to save time and money.
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