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Old May 12th, 2016, 02:13 AM   #3781
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It would be interesting to compare km driven and also regional differences.

For example, Ontario has a per billion passenger-km fatality rate roughly a third of Saskatchewan.
Ontario has a large majority of its population centered around Toronto where traffic flows on motorways and is always close to hospitals

Wheras Saskatchewan is a much more rural and dispersed place and has people driving much further away from help, and motorways don't exist, though there are divided expressways on major roads.

See here for 2014 report in Canada, with attention to page 4:
https://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents...cs2014_eng.pdf

Ontario has 3.6 deaths per billion km
Nunavut has 108.1 (!)

Now of course, Nunavut has a extremely remote and rural population where help is probably not going to arrive in time, an extremely harsh climate where the unexpected can happen (e.g., fall through an ice road), and a population with tremendous social problems (alcohol and substance abuse and tendency to suicide) that swings it far away from normal.

Nunavut's relative "driving distance" is also interesting - per million people, number is only 111, comparable to USA on a whole. But where do Nunavut people drive, when roads are few and Iqaluit can be walked across... to the next world, presumably.

To compare to USA, I want to say they have a much larger "rural" population that is more dynamic than ours, and that pushes the numbers.
It would be interesting to compare a place like California vs. Ontario for example
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Old May 12th, 2016, 03:51 PM   #3782
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Nunavut has such as small population, road network and kilometers traveled that any fatal accident could mess up the numbers.

But the Canada vs United States comparison is interesting because both countries have a fairly similar spatial planning, roads and speed limits are similar and the vehicle types are also fairly similar. Canada has fewer freeways, so those at-grade divided highways should result in a lower safetely level than full-standard freeways, but this isn't reflected in the overall fatality figures.
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Old May 12th, 2016, 03:52 PM   #3783
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The Highway 216 (Anthony Henday Drive) northeast segment around Edmonton will open to traffic this year.

It features a fairly large interchange with Highway 16 (Yellowhead Highway) on the east side of Edmonton.

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Old May 12th, 2016, 03:55 PM   #3784
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The Highway 201 (Stoney Trail) and Highway 2 (Deerfoot Trail) interchange in southern Calgary has been upgraded in recent years.



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Old May 13th, 2016, 01:45 AM   #3785
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I believe Canada has more freeways per capita than the US, correct?

Those at grade expressways in the prairies are usually very low traffic and wouldn't even be twinned in the US. Most highways that have freeway levels of traffic (10,000+aadt) are built as freeways, or very close to it.
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Old May 13th, 2016, 01:53 AM   #3786
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I'm not sure. The US has so many "un-needed" Interstates everywhere, like Montana for only one glaring example

Surely in the US our old Hwy 17 across most of Ontario would have been a freeway for decades...

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The Highway 216 (Anthony Henday Drive) northeast segment around Edmonton will open to traffic this year.
It's so crazy how that interchange has been improved. North to west used to be a hard left turn across oncoming traffic on a 2 lane cow path. Not 50 years ago, more like 50 weeks

I drove through the Hwy 2 / 22X (201) in Calgary last summer, almost Toronto like
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Old May 14th, 2016, 09:15 PM   #3787
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Some 407 photos taken last night:

Westbound from the Lake Ridge Road overpass:




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Old May 14th, 2016, 09:44 PM   #3788
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It looks like it could open soon. I believe the opening is set for 'spring 2016', which can be any time now.
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Old May 14th, 2016, 11:12 PM   #3789
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^ The freeway mainline is pretty much finished. I think all that remains is some landscaping work, and some of the lighting doesn't yet have its luminaries.

More work remains though at the interchanges. I figure that the 407 will open in about a month.
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Old May 15th, 2016, 01:25 PM   #3790
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I compared some traffic fatality data, and two countries that appear fairly similar, turn out to be quite different in terms of traffic safety.

In 2014, Canada had 1,834 traffic fatalities, a rate of 52 per 1 million people. At the same time, the United States had 32,675 fatalities, a rate of 103 per 1 million people, double the rate of Canada.

To put it in perspective among developed countries; Canada has a fatality rate near the EU average, the U.S. traffic fatality rate is much higher with only one EU country (Latvia) exceeding it slightly.

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Fatalities per 1 million people;

* Netherlands: 28
* Norway: 29
* Israel: 33
* Japan: 36
* China: 46
* Australia: 49
* EU average: 51
* Canada: 52
* New Zealand: 64
* United States: 103
* Latvia: 106

I wonder what is the cause for such a marked difference between Canada and the United States.
The Chinese figure is incredibly low, considering how chaotic traffic in that country is. Maybe not all accident-related death are reported as such?
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Old May 15th, 2016, 03:21 PM   #3791
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According to the World Health Organisation the Chinese rate for 2015 is 188 which is a figure I am much more inclined to believe.
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Statista claims 58,500 fatalities in 2014, with 1.3 billion people, giving a rate in the mid-40s. However, it is possible this figure is only for national road infrastructure, some countries report national/federal road fatalities separate from lower governments.
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Old May 15th, 2016, 03:49 PM   #3793
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According to the World Health Organisation the Chinese rate for 2015 is 188 which is a figure I am much more inclined to believe.
Of course, if the 46 figure comes from the Chinese regime it isn't very reliable.

Anyway, I think that calculating accident/death rate in relation with km driven is more accurate than in relation with the number of people.
A small island were people drive short distances or a poor country with a low vehicle ownership rate may have a low accident/death rate in relation to the number of people, because people drive less, but it may have a high rate in relation with the km driven.

EDIT: Chris answer may be another option.
National road infrastructure in China may have a lower accident rate because they are mostly motorways, that are usually safer than undivided roads.
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Anyway, I think that calculating accident/death rate in relation with km driven is more accurate than in relation with the number of people.
It is indeed, but this data is not readily available for many countries and even if it is available, different methodologies used by statistical agencies makes it difficult to compare to other countries. Population figures are much more reliable and widely available, which is why this measure is often used.

It could be interesting to compare the Canadian fatality rate with the U.S. fatality rate per 1 billion vehicle miles / kilometers.
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Old May 15th, 2016, 11:42 PM   #3795
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I believe Canadians drive the most km on average globally too - I remember seeing that somewhere.
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Old May 16th, 2016, 04:30 PM   #3796
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Old May 18th, 2016, 06:29 AM   #3797
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Canada has more km of road per capita than any country in the world and considerably more than the US. Perhaps that factors into our lower fatality rate as roads are less busy.

It might also help to look at highway vs city auto fatalities. Maybe its the US city fatality rate that bumps their number up? Canadian urban planning encourages pedestrianization and higher population density. It likely results in city streets with lots of stops, lower speed limits, and lower auto related deaths.
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Canada has more km of road per capita than any country in the world and considerably more than the US. Perhaps that factors into our lower fatality rate as roads are less busy.

It might also help to look at highway vs city auto fatalities. Maybe its the US city fatality rate that bumps their number up? Canadian urban planning encourages pedestrianization and higher population density. It likely results in city streets with lots of stops, lower speed limits, and lower auto related deaths.
I would also consider the higher rates of public transportation use in Canada vs the US as a potential reason. We tend to have much higher mass transit in our cities and therefore that could result in less deaths on the roads.
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