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Old March 7th, 2008, 09:17 PM   #981
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Wow, Chris, that's some serious collection. Good job! TheCat, those 17,000 km IMO only include 4-lane motorways/freeways/expressways, but as Chris said, aren't all grade-separated. As for Russia, I think it has some 1,500 km of motorways, but quite some other 4-lane inter-city roads.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 10:34 PM   #982
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Does anyone have pictures of motorways from maritime provinces which are 1X2 not 2x2?
They are marked like that on road atlases, especially in Nova Scotia but also in Quebec and New Brunswick.
Do they have grade separated junctions? What is speed limit on such roads?
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Old March 7th, 2008, 10:37 PM   #983
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Yeah i noticed them in Nova Scotia. I didn't add them to the list. 2x2 is also a minimum requirement for a motorway-grade road.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 10:51 PM   #984
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Why isn't Nova Scotia called New Scotia (or New Scotland)?
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Old March 8th, 2008, 12:25 AM   #985
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Why isn't Nova Scotia called New Scotia (or New Scotland)?
It is Latin.

Nova = New
Scotia = Land of the Gaels

Why King James I gave it a Latin name in 1621, I don't know. Probably, Latin language at that time was still valued highly among educated circles.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 12:28 AM   #986
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^ Yeah, but Latin is only spoken in The Vatican.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 12:33 AM   #987
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^ Yeah, but Latin is only spoken in The Vatican.
In 1621, Latin was spoken not only in Vatican. Heck, even now when people want to appear sophisticated, they use Latin phrases
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Old March 8th, 2008, 12:36 AM   #988
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De facto true.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #989
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Yeah i noticed them in Nova Scotia. I didn't add them to the list. 2x2 is also a minimum requirement for a motorway-grade road.

Do you have any pictures?
Or anyone?
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Old March 8th, 2008, 07:45 PM   #990
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The Nova Scotia 101 is only grade-separated, without any median. I certainly wouldn't call it a motorway.
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Old March 9th, 2008, 07:22 AM   #991
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Old March 9th, 2008, 09:14 AM   #992
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Does anyone have pictures of motorways from maritime provinces which are 1X2 not 2x2?
They are marked like that on road atlases, especially in Nova Scotia but also in Quebec and New Brunswick.
Do they have grade separated junctions? What is speed limit on such roads?
Sure, here's an example of Highway 101 in Nova Scotia:


This is why I think it's possible that the Canadian statistic includes these highways. Pretty much all maritime 2-lane highways are controlled-access, and so are several highways in Ontario and possibly other provinces. They are called 2-lane freeways. They have no medians, but no at-grade intersections and long acceleration/deceleration lanes (such as the ones seen on the picture above), which are similar (or the same) in length to full motorway standards.

Regarding the speed limits, I'm not totally sure. I know that some highways in the maritimes have a speed limit of 110 km/h, which is higher than the highest limit of 100 km/h in many other provinces. However, I'm not sure if it applies to 2-lane highways as well. I found one old document on the Internet which describes the raising of the speed limit to 110 km/h on some 4-lane sections of the 100-series highways, but I also found another place simply stating that the limit is 110 km/h on all 100-series highways, unless posted otherwise. Technically, even if the limit is 100 km/h, it's a lot for a 2-lane road.
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Old March 9th, 2008, 12:52 PM   #993
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In Sweden, 110 can occur on 2 lane highways. In the United States, some states even post a 120km/h speed limit on 2 lane highways (like in Montana, Nebraska and Texas).

To be frank, 110 can be done safely on quiet 2 lane roads. I drive it often myself, when the speed limit is 80.
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Technically, even if the limit is 100 km/h, it's a lot for a 2-lane road.
Maybe for a 2-lane road, but it would feel rather slow (or definitely not fast) for this particular stretch in the pic (we had such roads too, with the same speed limit), you can easily go 120 km/h, if there isn't someone slower in front of you.
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Old March 11th, 2008, 02:33 AM   #995
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people go over 100km on highway ten north of Brampton.

even 120km on parts where it is one lane...
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Old March 11th, 2008, 06:53 AM   #996
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Highway 10 is crazy. That big hill south of Caledon is pretty neat. For a short distance between the passing lanes, there is a short rural six-lane section.

http://www.onthighways.com/hwy_10-19...l_44_north.jpg
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Old March 12th, 2008, 06:31 PM   #997
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in that section you showed is where the legendary "Forks of the Credit Road" starts...

I think ten people have died on that road, 8 back in 1995.

The road is like a rural mountain road in India or china with 180 degree turns and 90 degree turns and steep falls and climbs with sharp turns at the bottom of hills.

However the road is now closed I think.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 02:42 PM   #998
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^ They closed the forks of the credit road? That's too bad! When I took that picture, I had just driven the Forks Road. I took a few pictures of it as well, the hairpin was definitely a highlight
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:48 AM   #999
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I was wrong it is open and the infamous hairpin turn is still there.

Its wider and it is now literally impossibile to kill yourself on that bend now unless your going like+ 50m/hr through the turn.
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 07:12 AM   #1000
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