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Old March 22nd, 2008, 07:48 PM   #1001
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Old March 22nd, 2008, 08:15 PM   #1002
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where is that, I know its the 407, but whats the other highway, is it 404 or 410

edit: it is the 404
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 08:40 PM   #1003
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the 400 and 407 is a full four level interchange.

The interchange takes up a ridiculous amount of area...
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Old March 23rd, 2008, 11:08 PM   #1004
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And they were supposed to make the interchanges with the 404 and the 410 stacks as well
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Old March 24th, 2008, 04:50 AM   #1005
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I saw a map once of an early proposal of the 401/407 interchange in Mississagua. It was pretty funky, servicing Ninth Line, and it seemed to lend itself for a northerly extension along Brampton's Western Boundary.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 07:13 AM   #1006
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Scary crash on the Yellowhead today. An 18-wheeler going the wrong direction for 20 some km hits a guard rail and flips over onto train tracks and explodes into a giant ball of fire. Right out of a movie.

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Old April 1st, 2008, 02:39 PM   #1007
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Indeed, scary
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Old April 1st, 2008, 03:16 PM   #1008
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Man... Wow. That's scary.
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Old April 1st, 2008, 05:21 PM   #1009
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That crash happened 3 blocks away from my old bus stop too.

In happier, but still strressful news, 23rd Ave overpass over Gateway Boulevard/Calgary Trail (aka QEII Highway) begins construction, which will see a bottlenecks happen. This intersection is one of the busiest in Edmonton, seeing 120 000 vehicles a day.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 02:44 AM   #1010
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Old April 7th, 2008, 03:30 PM   #1011
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Guys is it true that they plan to demolish the Gardiner Expressway and do an underground motorway?When I went in Toronto in the summer my uncle told me that!I was really surprised because i don't see what's wrong with the Gardiner Expressway!Anyway have you posted any pics of the motorway to Sarnia and the US border there?
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Old April 7th, 2008, 05:33 PM   #1012
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Gardiner Expressway









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Old April 7th, 2008, 07:56 PM   #1013
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The best view of the CN Tower from a car is the Gardiner Expressway :P
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Old April 8th, 2008, 07:05 AM   #1014
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Guys is it true that they plan to demolish the Gardiner Expressway and do an underground motorway?When I went in Toronto in the summer my uncle told me that!I was really surprised because i don't see what's wrong with the Gardiner Expressway!Anyway have you posted any pics of the motorway to Sarnia and the US border there?
Frankly, I agree with you, and think that the so-called "Gardiner barrier" concept is greatly exaggerated, and is nothing compared to the massive railway that passes just a little north of it, with its giant and ugly underpasses.

However, aesthetics aside, the Gardiner has a lot of technical problems. It is quite old, and (in my opinion) wasn't constructed very well, or at least wasn't maintained very well. As a result, from time to time there are small chunks of it that fall off, and apparently it has lots of structural problems. If not completely rebuilt, it at least should be heavily renovated/reconstructed.

Of course, having a tunnel instead of the elevated Gardiner would be very nice, and much better than the current situation, but there is no way that this is happening anytime soon (and even not so soon ). The amount of money involved here is huge, and the city doesn't have it. And I do agree that there are many more projects (such as expansion of public transport) that are much more important.
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Old April 8th, 2008, 03:57 PM   #1015
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and all the people that just say to close are crazy, because the local roads (Lakeshore) would not be able to handle the influx of traffic. Its like the people that want Cootes Drive in Hamilton closed. It goes from Main St. W at McMaster to Dundas and is a by-pass of Main St. W. People want to tear it up because it goes through Cootes Paradise (swamp area). The thing is, is that Main St. W can not handle the extra 30000 cars per day going down it, it can barely handle the amount of traffic it has now.
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Yes this idea is really stupid!I've heard that the same project was done in Chicago and it's still not finished due to the lack of money!I know that in the moment Toronto has problems with funds and this kind of project is not a good idea!
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Old April 13th, 2008, 12:07 AM   #1017
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I have question about highway 185 in Quebec. It is part of trans-canada highway. When are they going to twin it? I looked on Wikipedia and some other sites and there are plans that Hwy 185 will become freeway. But I couldn't find any time scale or information on which stage project currently is.
New Brunswick is finishing or just finished building freeway on their part of TCH.
So the last gap in freeway connection between Toronto, Montreal and maritime provinces is Hwy 185.
Does anyone have more news about this project?

Another question is about these two lane freeways in maritime provinces. Is there space left so it is possible to build second lane in future? Or they going to be forever narrow because houses stand next to it and so on?
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Old April 13th, 2008, 01:01 AM   #1018
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Does the 'high' in highway refer to high speed? And does this word 'highway' trace its origins to Canada, the USA, or both? Does anyone have research on this as opposed to speculation/opinion?
No, it's a very old word, (it come from England) then they used high as main or main road. I mean a long time ago centrueis ago.
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Old April 15th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #1019
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I have question about highway 185 in Quebec. It is part of trans-canada highway. When are they going to twin it? I looked on Wikipedia and some other sites and there are plans that Hwy 185 will become freeway. But I couldn't find any time scale or information on which stage project currently is.
New Brunswick is finishing or just finished building freeway on their part of TCH.
So the last gap in freeway connection between Toronto, Montreal and maritime provinces is Hwy 185.
Does anyone have more news about this project?

Another question is about these two lane freeways in maritime provinces. Is there space left so it is possible to build second lane in future? Or they going to be forever narrow because houses stand next to it and so on?
Quebec 185 is supposed to be a full freeway by 2012 i think. I drove it a few years ago, and there were a couple of new stretches of freeway.
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Old April 15th, 2008, 09:12 PM   #1020
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The 'freeway' usage varies by region in the USA, too. Wisconsinites and Illinoisians would *NEVER, EVER* refer to a toll road as a 'freeway', it's a 'tollway'. Same design standards as a 'freeway' but one must pay a toll to use it.

Also, amazingly, there are a select few roads in the USA that are marked as 'interstates' but are not built to freeway standards (they have intersections). These include I-180 in Cheyenne, WY, a section of I-78 (by the Holland Tunnel) in Jersey City, NJ and the most notorious one of all, I-70 in Breezewood, PA.

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Don't forget about roads signed as "Freeways" and are the furthest thing from. There are two sections of U.S. 340 in West Virginia which are signed as freeways (one even has a name) but have at-grade intersections and even *gasp* traffic signals. At least there is a 60mph speed limit though.
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