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Old May 13th, 2016, 11:16 PM   #2681
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I visited Belgium (Brugge & Gent) two weeks ago

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Old May 14th, 2016, 12:30 PM   #2682
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Guns N' Roses recorded a song about Belgium. It's called 'Welcome to the Jungle'.

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Old May 14th, 2016, 12:58 PM   #2683
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On many highways in Flanders they have removed the trees in the middle and cut down a good part of the trees on the sides this winter. I don't know if Wallonia did something as well.
That picture is just.... lol. Worst of a surface and dangerous with those trees.
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Old May 14th, 2016, 01:18 PM   #2684
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When I was in Belgium I noticed that Flandres has better surface of roads (motorways/highways) than Wallonia.
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Old May 14th, 2016, 04:11 PM   #2685
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Guns N' Roses recorded a song about Belgium. It's called 'Welcome to the Jungle'.

That combination of wild jungle / bad pavement reminds me of Sicilian motorways:

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Old May 14th, 2016, 06:58 PM   #2686
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On many highways in Flanders they have removed the trees in the middle and cut down a good part of the trees on the sides this winter. I don't know if Wallonia did something as well.
That picture is just.... lol. Worst of a surface and dangerous with those trees.
What my (Walloon) girlfriend said is that they cut the middle ones completely down every few years, and seriously trim the ones on the side. They regrow as nuts fall from the trees on the side and end up in the middle due to the traffic.
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Old May 14th, 2016, 11:10 PM   #2687
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Part 2 (Bruges/Brugge-Ghent/Gand/Gent)
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Old May 15th, 2016, 06:59 PM   #2688
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I like the Sicilian motorway better because it feels more tropical. And the pavement there seems to be ok compared to Wallonia.
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Old May 16th, 2016, 04:41 AM   #2689
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That combination of wild jungle / bad pavement reminds me of Sicilian motorways:

It´s beautiful Who the hell has a problem with that?
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Old May 16th, 2016, 06:07 PM   #2690
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What my (Walloon) girlfriend said is that they cut the middle ones completely down every few years, and seriously trim the ones on the side. They regrow as nuts fall from the trees on the side and end up in the middle due to the traffic.
Some countries like Slovenia, where trees are also abundant, simply spray the middle part with some kind of pesticide that kills any kind of vegetation. The result may be seen here. But it requires regular maintenance...
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Old May 16th, 2016, 09:18 PM   #2691
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I'm pretty sure that spraying pesticides in that amount and so strong it kills everything is forbidden in Belgium and many other countries, it contaminates the groundwater we need tot drink.
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Old May 16th, 2016, 09:25 PM   #2692
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One thing is to use pesticides in small quantities to kill weeds, other thing is to use it in amounts high enough to kill full-grown bushes (like 50x more per m˛). It is not a good idea (like it wouldn't be to lit it on fire on dry summer days and let it burn).

Are there any updates on projects to improve A12, getting rid of the remaining traffic lights north of Boom?
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Old May 17th, 2016, 12:25 AM   #2693
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The only news I've seen recently was that there were plans to rather quickly remove those dangerous 'local' on-ramps and off-ramps. Upgrading A12 is looked at as important but there aren't any full-fledged plans yet to remove those last intersections, no.
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Old May 17th, 2016, 01:48 AM   #2694
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I'm pretty sure that spraying pesticides in that amount and so strong it kills everything is forbidden in Belgium and many other countries, it contaminates the groundwater we need tot drink.
what do they do for electric power transmission lines?

In my part of Canada they use those defoliants for those power lines but just cut like one would a lawn the highway... I dislike the vegetation because it tends to give space for police to hide and catch speeders
Then again at night it is nice since it allows use of main beams instead of just dipped beams
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Old May 17th, 2016, 09:58 AM   #2695
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... we just build the power lines high enough? Keep in mind that Belgium is a very densely populated country and that power lines don't need to cut through big forests like in Canada Therefore we don't need to take any drastic measures like that to secure our power supply.

Generally they seem to cut down trees whenever they start to reach a certain height, but other foliage is allowed to grow. The use of pesticides is strictly regulated as we need the ground water for drinking water and to preserve some rare plants that would otherwise be affected.
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Old May 17th, 2016, 10:21 AM   #2696
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Most power lines gow through agricultural areas like this:

Screenshot hoogspanningslijn by bMundial, on Flickr
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Old May 20th, 2016, 12:40 PM   #2697
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You can find a map of the power lines network in Belgium here :

http://www.elia.be/fr/a-propos-elia/publications/cartes

Just click on the adobe icon to open the map.

Only in the southern part of Belgium (south of the Sambre and Meuse rivers)
you can find large-scale forests. In this part, population is much less dense
and therefore there are not that many power lines, much less than in the
north. There are almost no industrial installations there, the only large
consumers are railway substations (all railways there are electrified).

Power lines are mounted on steel pylons (never with wooden poles as you can
see in the US) which are always high enough (and we don't grow sequoias
over here ) to keep the wires above tree height. You don't really have the
notion of power line "right of way" over here.
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Old June 8th, 2016, 03:07 PM   #2698
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Old June 8th, 2016, 03:21 PM   #2699
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When I was in Belgium I noticed that Flandres has better surface of roads (motorways/highways) than Wallonia.
Generally they are indeed in a better condition. The biggest difference is in the towns and cities, the Flemish ones have a population that's relatively more wealthy and thus the cities and towns have a higher tax revenue, which they can spend on road infrastructure. In Wallonia, 1 out 5 families are in a situation in which both parents/partners are unemployed. In Flanders only 1 out 20 families find themselves in the same predicament.

There's also a significant difference when it comes to "supplementary" road infrastructure, traffic-signs, guard-rails, road markings, reflectors... . The budget in Flanders is high enough to conduct regular mantenaince in these fields while Wallonia has to prioritize on getting the roads themselves in a decent condition.
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Generally they are indeed in a better condition. The biggest difference is in the towns and cities, the Flemish ones have a population that's relatively more wealthy and thus the cities and towns have a higher tax revenue, which they can spend on road infrastructure. In Wallonia, 1 out 5 families are in a situation in which both parents/partners are unemployed. In Flanders only 1 out 20 families find themselves in the same predicament.

There's also a significant difference when it comes to "supplementary" road infrastructure, traffic-signs, guard-rails, road markings, reflectors... . The budget in Flanders is high enough to conduct regular mantenaince in these fields while Wallonia has to prioritize on getting the roads themselves in a decent condition.
Belgium is not a country or a nation at all if poorer regions are left to themselves, instead of being dealt with at national level.
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