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Old October 17th, 2017, 09:38 PM   #2961
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When will be that day when motorways in Belgium will use A numbers as the rest of the world? :/
The rest of the world? Norway, Sweden and Denmark use the E-numbers too.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 01:44 AM   #2962
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Most countries with a motorway network (as opposed to one or two here and there) give them a separate set of numbers, or different coloured shields/cartouches, and most use 'A' prefixes if they use different prefixes to regular roads. However these are far from universal things - eg Hungary, Pakistan, Ireland and the UK use 'M'; Mexico, Czechia and Slovakia 'D'; Turkey 'O'; Japan, Malaysia and the Philippines 'E'; Kosovo 'R'; the US 'I'; and I know I've missed other countries.

Belgium and the Nordic countries are different as they use E roads as primary numbers, whereas other countries give E roads equal-footing at best and people typically ignore them. Belgium is doubly odd as there's a public-facing (Denmark has administrative M numbers for motorways) national numbering system on these roads, rather than the E numbers only. Triply odd as this use of E numbers doesn't happen off the motorway network, unlike Scandinavia (and the small non-motorway bit of the E55 in Denmark).

Of course, doing stuff different from others isn't an inherently good reason to change, and things would be more boring if they were more uniform.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 02:13 PM   #2963
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How is it signed, E420, N5 or A5? Signed as motorway or expressway?
Signed as motorway.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 10:21 PM   #2964
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However these are far from universal things - eg Hungary, Pakistan, Ireland and the UK use 'M'; Mexico, Czechia and Slovakia 'D'; Turkey 'O'; Japan, Malaysia and the Philippines 'E'; Kosovo 'R'; the US 'I'; and I know I've missed other countries.
You missed Spain which uses all of those letters for Motorway (and for Non Motorway too), although mainly A or AP.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 11:11 PM   #2965
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Belgium used to have very low E-numbers (E3, E5, E9, E10).
Probably somewhere in the 80s the E-numbering system was reformed.

For example E9 was renumbered to E313. In my opionion Belgium should have switched to national A-numbers as primary road numbering at that point.
Very important national corridors now carry inconvenient numbers like E313, E314 and E411. A13, A2 and A4 would have been so much easier.

Especially E313-E314 are confusing especially because they intersect. Traffic from Antwerp to Aachen has to follow E313 and then E314.

In Spain E-numbers are useless as well because they not always follow the shortest route. For example, E15 Valencia-Alicante follows the coastal AP7, even though the new A7 trough Alcoy is much shorter. Maybe they hope more people will use the toll road that way.
Or they just didn't bother to reroute the E-15 and change the signs for the millionth time.
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Old October 19th, 2017, 11:19 PM   #2966
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How is it signed, E420, N5 or A5? Signed as motorway or expressway?
Directional signage show it as E420 motorway. Traffic signs show it as an expressway. Hectometer signs show it as N5.





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Old October 25th, 2017, 05:17 PM   #2967
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Are there any plans to built motorway A19 missing link between Ypres (N38) and Veurne (E40/A18)?
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Old October 25th, 2017, 09:14 PM   #2968
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It's a political game between local politicians, the Flemish governemnt and the Belgian government. Don't expect any concrete plans any time soon.

For instance the previous Belgian government wanted to upscale the N8 instead, but those plans where pushed and driven by local politics who didn't want the new motorway, the current government scrapped the plan to upscale the N8 and is doing new studies to realise the A19. This however created a lot of commotion within the local comunities and politics.

The N8 is a dangerous road that needs to be reconstructed very fast. Local politicans rather have no new highway and the money to be directed to reconstruct the dangerous N8 wich runs trough their towns.

The current government however wants to do both. (Like it should be) but local politicians are very sceptical and still don't want a new highway.
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Old October 29th, 2017, 08:55 PM   #2969
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N5 south of Charleroi

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I've tried to find some info....

http://www.sofico.org/fr/les-mission...ges/la-n5-e420

It seems that it is/was planned to upgrade N5 b/n Charleroi and French border.

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  • Northern section (13km) between Charleroi Sud and Somzée (Walcourt)
  • Central section (25km) between Somzée and Mariembourg (north of Couvin)
  • Southern section (length yet undefined) between north of Couvin and the French border.
It was decided in 2011 to fund the 14km extension (Couvin bypass) which costs about 176 million €.

https://www.rtbf.be/info/regions/hai...roi?id=9122103

If I got it right, it's about the planned (or u/c?) upgrade of the northern or central section. The road will only partially get motorway standard


http://routes.wikia.com/wiki/Route_nationale_belge_5

N5 could be future A5 but Bultia shopping center bypass (1.5km) will feature 2 lanes only.
A public inquiry concerning the revision of sector plans will take place from 25 October 2017 to 8 December 2017; The project consists of the revision of the Charleroi and Philippeville-Couvin sector plans for the registration of the proposed E420-N5 route south of Charleroi and the associated reservation perimeter.

If I got it right, there will be two N5 branches between R3 and Bultia. The western branch is an extension of A503 from R3 exit 5, the eastern branch ends at R3 exit at Blanche Borne. See map.

Is the public inquiry ("Enquête publique") the last step to get building permit or is it an earlier planning stage?
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E17 Waregem

A DDI has been approved for the E17 / N382 interchange in Waregem. It would be the first DDI in Belgium.

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Old November 13th, 2017, 04:38 PM   #2971
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If Belgians keep a good and up to date signing system then this can be a very interesting idea, otherwise will be a junction with a lot of accidents :P
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I can think of several junctions this might actually work where structural traffic jams are present every day. Offcourse It would be better to build a double loop like they did with the N75xE314 junction.
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Old December 11th, 2017, 10:28 PM   #2973
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Flanders has seen substantial snowfall today, which has impacted traffic from the early morning to late evening. Some roads were jammed up for more than 12 hours.

Gent seems especially hard-hit, as of 9:30 p.m. E40 is still jammed up badly.


I've read reports about incredible gridlocks on the regional road system with 3-4 hours to travel 10 kilometers.

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And most of those traffic Jams are caused by idiots. I had a nearly 1 hour delay on a local road because some ass with a merc, back wheel drive with no winter tires blocked a bridge with his car... They should fines those idiots heavely and give the money to the people in the traffic jam...
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Old December 13th, 2017, 05:02 PM   #2975
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Sorry for the off topic but those interested in very accurate reports about snow in Belgium can check that website:
http://www.weerstationmaasmechelen.be/sneeuw/,
The situation is now back to the normal with southeast covered by snow and nothing elsewhere
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Old December 13th, 2017, 05:20 PM   #2976
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Are there any plans to built motorway A19 missing link between Ypres (N38) and Veurne (E40/A18)?
Where I've got it from, I don't know. So correct me if I'm wrong.
If you stretch it, it would go straight through the battlegrounds of the opening stages of 'the third battle of Ypres', The battle of Pilckem Ridge.
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Old December 29th, 2017, 09:49 PM   #2977
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Low Emission Zone

A Low Emission Zone (LEZ) will become operational in Brussels from 1 January 2018. In 2018, it only applies to older diesel cars. From 2019, it will also apply to older petrol cars. Over the years, the admission criteria will be enhanced to ban older vehicles.

More information: http://www.lez.brussels/en/content/lez

According to that website, the enforcement will not start until October 2018. Every vehicle that wants to drive in Brussels - including vehicles that comply! - will have to register. Non-registration will be fined € 350, even if the vehicle complies with the emission standards.

Antwerpen also has a LEZ since 2017. Every foreign motorists (except Belgian and Dutch) must register their vehicle, even if your vehicle complies with the admission standards, otherwise you get a € 125 fine.

https://www.slimnaarantwerpen.be/en/...-for-admission

If you want to drive into both cities, you probably have to register your vehicle in both cities because they are separate entities and have different admission criteria. However, you cannot register your vehicle in Brussels until summer 2018. You also have to re-register when they change the admission criteria in Antwerpen in 2020 and 2025.
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Old December 30th, 2017, 03:02 AM   #2978
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If they implement the law like they check drivers license or car insurance in Brussels you shouldn't fear driving a damn diesel train...
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Old December 30th, 2017, 11:43 PM   #2979
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I heard a comedian today who said that the Antwerp LEZ is sandwiched between the largest petrochemical port in Europe and the busiest motorway in Belgium (R1), and it's divided in two by one the busiest rivers in Europe.
And how the city council were actually surprised when the emission limits were exceeded when there was a bit of wind.

And for the same sum for violating the LEZ you could also drive 80 in a 50 zone while being drunk and using the phone. Don't know if this last thing i actually true.
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