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Old May 28th, 2009, 06:10 PM   #461
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How long will this viaduct still stand before it collapses?
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Old May 28th, 2009, 11:57 PM   #462
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Travelled across that bridge several times in last years, one direction is always closed and nothing seems to happen.
I saw some graffiti in Dutch, asking "lazy Walloons, finish that f*ing bridge"...
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:00 AM   #463
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It's in this area. I took this pic in 2006, I believe both bridges were still opened to traffic back then.
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:06 AM   #464
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What's Anvers ? Antwerpen ?
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:08 AM   #465
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Yeah, the French way of writing Antwerpen
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:14 AM   #466
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God, I was actually on that motorway and I couldn't guess what this means
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Old May 29th, 2009, 10:50 AM   #467
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The single biggest reason why you should avoid driving through Belgium. If you're trying to get to Lille, you should be looking for "Rijsel" - it's ridiculous.
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Old May 29th, 2009, 11:06 AM   #468
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The Boirs viaduct in E313




























and you Euros say us "American's" have bad infrastructure, look at the home Country of the EU HQ , lol that bridge is ready to crumble , its only held together by rustic railings and Industrial Super Glued Joints
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:20 PM   #469
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The single biggest reason why you should avoid driving through Belgium. If you're trying to get to Lille, you should be looking for "Rijsel" - it's ridiculous.
Yeah, I saw quite a lot of Rijsel or Aix la Chapelle (Aachen?)
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:22 PM   #470
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Yes, that's Aachen

Did you also see signs with Doornik? In French that town is called Tournai. Den Bosch, in the Netherlands, also has a french name: Bois-le-Duc
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:27 PM   #471
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Maybe simply they should put both names, at least I wouldn't have have look up every 2 minutes in map what even more weirdo names mean in more known forms
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:32 PM   #472
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In Belgium this will NEVER happen.
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Old May 29th, 2009, 12:34 PM   #473
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No, the idea of making signage more clear! It's in violation with the ridiculous language laws. Politics over clarity.
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Old May 29th, 2009, 02:44 PM   #474
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I heard of so many people from my region who came back from the coast of Belgium or Netherlands and didn't find Liège at ring of Brussel or Antwerpen because it's signed as Luik... you always have to know the city's names in two languages to drive through Belgium without losing the way
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Old May 29th, 2009, 09:10 PM   #475
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I've always been of opinion that places should be named as they're officially called in their region. Any places in Flanders should be signed in Dutch, any places in Wallonia in French, and the both if the location is located in the Brussels area (Dutch signed first in Flanders, French first in Wallonia). The only exception where I'd keep the current situation for practical reasons would be Brussel/Bruxelles (Brussels). There's so many signs that would need to be replaced if that would change and the difference isn't that big...

That would be the fairest system according to me. Not only for those living there, but also for tourists who are trying to find their way to their location. Luckily most people already have a satnav in their car if they're going somewhere they don't know, which would solve this whole issue straight away, but that's no excuse for it.

And, indeed, sadly enough, this will most likely never happen. Language is one of the few things that unites Flanders, which is why we're so fierce about it. On signs though, and if applied in the whole country, I wouldn't care one bit.

EDIT: by the way: can someone remove that "lazy walloons" tag from this thread? I don't want my fellow countrymen to be called like that for some rusty bridge that didn't get maintenance due to incompetent politically placed people in some department that doesn't do its task as it should...

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Old May 30th, 2009, 02:30 AM   #476
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Old May 30th, 2009, 11:29 PM   #477
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C'est bon, c'est belge. And always look out for the potholes. In Flanders and in Wallonia.

Btw, near Liège newer signs have been installed on the E 40 that show directions to Aachen and Trier, both in Germany, replacing the old "Aix-la-Chapelle" and "Trèves" ones. But you're still going to Anvers, I guess.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 04:58 AM   #478
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Wow.. that bridge looks terrible. The bridge that collapsed in Minneapolis didn't have nearly that much damage. Is that representative of Belgian roads or is that the exception?
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Old May 31st, 2009, 01:10 PM   #479
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It used to be representative but the Belgians are turning it around. It is now very much an exception. A dreadful one at that.
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Old May 31st, 2009, 02:06 PM   #480
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That bridge certainly is an exception to the bridges I get to see around my region. I showed the pictures to some friends as well and they were astonished as well.

I am of opinion that lots of our bridges could do with a facelift. Not that they're not structurally sound, but they just look so old...

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