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Old August 4th, 2010, 11:08 PM   #681
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R1 Antwerpen, by Antwerp skyliner:
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Old August 5th, 2010, 12:17 AM   #682
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That part of the R1 is already pretty wide, but there's another section that's even wider. The section where both the A1/E19 and A12 join the ring is 6x7 lanes.

The intersection on the picture is near the railwaystation Antwerpen-Oost. You can see some of the tracks in the right-top corner.

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Old August 5th, 2010, 05:13 PM   #683
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Some pictures I found:

Cloverleaf Gent (R4/E17)



Ecoduct Dilbeek



Piece of shit highway in Lummen. Luckely there renewing it...(E313/E314)



E40 motorway between Brussels/Liège in Tiennen.



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Old August 5th, 2010, 05:17 PM   #684
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Turbine in Gent: (E40/E17)

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Old August 5th, 2010, 05:22 PM   #685
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Was a picture that big really necessary?

This is why I don't mind Photobucket's 1 megabyte limit. Smaller images actually fit on people's screens.
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Old August 5th, 2010, 05:24 PM   #686
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Was a picture that big really necessary?

This is why I don't mind Photobucket's 1 megabyte limit. Smaller images actually fit on people's screens.
I know.. This one is from panoramio... that's why its is that big...
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Old August 5th, 2010, 05:31 PM   #687
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I know.. This one is from panoramio... that's why its is that big...
Just take a screenshot of Google Maps and put that on Photobucket. But Photobucket is blocked where I work... so, ... yeah.
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Old August 5th, 2010, 05:35 PM   #688
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I never understood what they're doing at interchange Lummen. I passed there in 2007, and there were roadworks already to reconstruct the interchange. Now 3 years later, not much progress seems to be made. What is up with that? In 3 years they've rebuilt 5 interchanges and numerous exits around Eindhoven in the same time.
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Old August 5th, 2010, 05:47 PM   #689
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I never understood what they're doing at interchange Lummen. I passed there in 2007, and there were roadworks already to reconstruct the interchange. Now 3 years later, not much progress seems to be made. What is up with that? In 3 years they've rebuilt 5 interchanges and numerous exits around Eindhoven in the same time.
That's just the way it goes in Belgium I guess. They start working then someone complains, works shut down, start over again, complaining...Then I understood a brige was build wrong so they had to break it down again, and blabla . Always something wrong in this country of ours... In the end everything is always more paperwork then actual work. If I see how long it takes for investers to do something in Belgium I can understand that some not even want to invest... When you need to build a project and you hear it is in Belgium: That would be like you're worst nightmare!
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I never understood what they're doing at interchange Lummen. I passed there in 2007, and there were roadworks already to reconstruct the interchange. Now 3 years later, not much progress seems to be made. What is up with that? In 3 years they've rebuilt 5 interchanges and numerous exits around Eindhoven in the same time.
And the picture above is not recent...Several bridges and new roads are constructed but indeed it's not finnished yet afther 3 years
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Old August 5th, 2010, 07:29 PM   #691
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Piece of shit highway in Lummen. Luckely there renewing it...(E313/E314)


Does anyone know how much lower the capacity is of such an interchange, where a roundabout is used instead of a turbine or a maltese-cross stack? Visually, it is an elegant solution but I know it is capacity limited, just can't remember how much lower.



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Old August 5th, 2010, 09:53 PM   #692
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that looks large enough to turn into a turbine fairly easily should it need it. Capacity on 3-level roundabout interchanges is a lot lower, but they can cope with rather a large volume of traffic moving slowly - the problem is getting traffic moving slowly and smoothly through it.

I'd say that given both roads are 2x2 it will be fine (or is that just through the junction)
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That's exactly what they're doing with it by the way. The roundabout is becoming a turbine. They started in 2007 and plan to finish in 2012.

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We have such an interchange in the Netherlands as well: interchange Rottepolderplein between Haarlem and Amsterdam. It shouldn't be too big a problem if the exiting traffic load isn't too high. But as the E313-E314 is the shortest route from Antwerpen to Aachen and beyond, there is a lot of traffic that has to use the roundabout three-quarters. It also serves as part of a regional ring road around the city of Hasselt.

So reconstructing it into a turbine is a good idea.

Speaking of turbines, full turbines are rather rare, but Belgium has a few of them. Usually only half of the interchange are turbines, the others are cloverleafs, hence the name "cloverturbine".

I'd say full turbines approach the capacity of a full stack. The advantage of a turbine is that the turn-off directions can be made at high speed which allows for 2- or even 3-lane connector roads.
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Old August 5th, 2010, 11:16 PM   #695
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Um, what's a turbine?
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Um, what's a turbine?
Take a look at the megapicture here above (Gent)
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Old August 6th, 2010, 11:04 AM   #697
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that looks large enough to turn into a turbine fairly easily should it need it. Capacity on 3-level roundabout interchanges is a lot lower, but they can cope with rather a large volume of traffic moving slowly - the problem is getting traffic moving slowly and smoothly through it.

I'd say that given both roads are 2x2 it will be fine (or is that just through the junction)
They really need a turbine here... In rush hour you get delayed traffic for several miles because of this interchange and a lot of accidents occure there... The highway is 2x2 indeed but they really need a 3x3 highway. It's always jammed for miles because a line of trucks always take the right lane so there is only one lane left for cars...
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Old August 6th, 2010, 11:12 AM   #699
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The never ending line of trucks: Live image.
Exit E314 to E313 on the interchange of lummen direction Antwerp.



On this site a map and live fotage of Motorways in Flanders.

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