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Old February 7th, 2011, 08:44 PM   #861
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The only (only!) thing we ask is that people who want to live in Flanders accept that Dutch is the official language, just as we accept that French is the official language in Wallonia. Is this too much to ask? Isn't this just fair?

They can speak whatever language they want at home, on the streets, in the restaurants, they can have French-speaking schools, libraries, (talking about good integration, ahum...)etc... But the language of the local authorities is Dutch. Only Dutch. It's just a matter of protecting our language against the big French language.
Well, I'm not there. I could cite examples from the francophone press of attempts to prevent people from speaking French in markets, on playgrounds, in shops.... And anyone who's interested in Belgium and roads has seen plenty of vandalized signs (on both sides). Not to mention "wonen in eigen streek." And "Dilbeek, waar Vlamingen thuis zijn." (And "Walen buiten," but that's a long time ago). But no doubt all that's anecdotal. But I really didn't mean to get into this. I do hope your country works everything out in a way that's respectful to everyone. And that's all I'm going to say.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 08:44 PM   #862
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Talking of languages, why is this thread labelled "Autoroutes de Belgique" and not "Belgische Autosnelwegen" as well?
I've wondered that myself.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 08:47 PM   #863
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Done.

I'm surprised it took so long before anybody noticed it... the thread had this name for 2 - 3 years.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 08:58 PM   #864
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Well, I'm not there. I could cite examples from the francophone press of attempts to prevent people from speaking French in markets, on playgrounds, in shops.... And anyone who's interested in Belgium and roads has seen plenty of vandalized signs (on both sides). Not to mention "wonen in eigen streek." And "Dilbeek, waar Vlamingen thuis zijn." (And "Walen buiten," but that's a long time ago). But no doubt all that's anecdotal. But I really didn't mean to get into this. I do hope your country works everything out in a way that's respectful to everyone. And that's all I'm going to say.
You have a very one-sided view on things here. This is how the (only!) Flemish school in Wallonia was "welcomed" in Comines:



Btw, what's your connection with (obviously Francophone) Belgium, if I may ask?

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Old February 7th, 2011, 10:20 PM   #865
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My god you're very embarrassing yourself Thermo.
You obviously just found out that karma is a bitch, now you still have to learn that the only person you have to blame for what's people are thinking about you is just yourself.

And I already told you in an other thread this IS NOT the only Flemish school in Wallonia.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 10:24 PM   #866
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Penn's woods really doesn't deserve this...
Although he isn't right about the Flemish only being hostile towards WAlloons, Walloons also are hostile towards Flemish people. The video proves that. But Penn's woods really seemed like a nice guy trying to understand both sides of the story.

Anyway: @ Penn's Woods: Neither the Walloon,neither the Flemisch are the 'bad ones' in this story. Although it is true that most people not being from belgium chose the Walloons side. But I think that has more to do with the Walloons being portrayed as suppressed by Flemisch people...

But anyway, this is a tread about Belgian Highways...
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Old February 7th, 2011, 10:26 PM   #867
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Penn's woods really doesn't deserve this...
Although he isn't right about the Flemish only being hostile towards WAlloons, Walloons also are hostile towards Flemish people. The video proves that. But Penn's woods really seemed like a nice guy trying to understand both sides of the story.

Anyway: @ Penn's Woods: Neither the Walloon,neither the Flemisch are the 'bad ones' in this story. Although it is true that most people not being from belgium chose the Walloons side. But I think that has more to do with the Walloons being portrayed as suppressed by Flemisch people...

But anyway, this is a tread about Belgian Highways...
("he isn't right about the Flemish only being hostile towards WAlloons" He (I) didn't say that, actually. Maar bedankt.)
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Old February 7th, 2011, 10:27 PM   #868
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My god you're very embarrassing yourself Thermo.
You obviously just found out that karma is a bitch, now you still have to learn that the only person you have to blame for what's people are thinking about you is just yourself.

And I already told you in an other thread this IS NOT the only Flemish school in Wallonia.
Can you explain that also to me? Because I really can't find another one...
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Old February 7th, 2011, 10:30 PM   #869
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BTw: the vid also features something else: The incompleted highway. Much more interesting then the politics
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Old February 7th, 2011, 10:34 PM   #870
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I'm surprised it took so long before anybody noticed it... the thread had this name for 2 - 3 years.
I only joined the forum recently, after reading this blog post. When Indigo Jo mentioned a "road forum" I first thought he was referring to SABRE, where I've long had an account.
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Old February 7th, 2011, 10:37 PM   #871
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Can you explain that also to me? Because I really can't find another one...
In Mouscron. Moreover, there are "immersion" school a bit everywhere in Wallonia. In those schools courses are in French and Dutch (sometimes up to 75nl/25fr).
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Why would they do that though? I can't remember people going to a school in Wallonia and I leave near the linguistic border...
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Old February 8th, 2011, 12:26 AM   #873
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You missed something.
Of course there is no reason for a dutch-speaking pupil from Flanders to go to school in Wallonia. My observation was about the supply of dutch-speaking schools for flemish people living in Wallonia. The school in Comines is not the only one as Thermo said.
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Old February 8th, 2011, 01:18 AM   #874
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Yes it is. The school in Mouscron has been transformed into an immersion school. It has merged with other Frenchspeaking schools in Mouscron.

Talking about immersion schools...I wish the concept would also be introduced in Flanders.
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Old February 8th, 2011, 11:03 AM   #875
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Yeah for instance, the thread title would lead to a major conflict since Dutch and German are left out.
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Done.

I'm surprised it took so long before anybody noticed it... the thread had this name for 2 - 3 years.
Josh noticed it right at the first page!

And by the way, I think it's a bad idea to use this threat for political discussions. I thought it was about roads!
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Old February 9th, 2011, 11:25 AM   #876
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E314; today



E314; 5 years ago

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Old February 9th, 2011, 05:29 PM   #877
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Looks way better
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Old February 9th, 2011, 05:30 PM   #878
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I don't see many differences... apart from the weather and the pavement.
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Old February 9th, 2011, 05:39 PM   #879
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I don't see many differences... apart from the weather and the pavement.
What about the median and the roadside?
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At least it got new pavement..The old was concrete that made a lot of noice and was bumpy...
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