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Old March 20th, 2011, 02:38 PM   #1041
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Besides that, I've drivin around Rome once and there are massieve projects around Rome that where never finished either. Next to the Italian A12 highway you can see tons of never used bridges and miles concrete pillars in the fields next to it for an incompleted highway or railwaytrack maybe...
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Old March 24th, 2011, 10:46 PM   #1042
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When it comes to road, the Italians seem to think in a way that very much resemblences ours :p
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Old April 6th, 2011, 04:43 PM   #1043
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Various Belgian media report the 2010 traffic volume on R1 in Antwerpen (Berchem - Borgerhout) was 260 000 vehicles per day. While this is technically not impossible, it's not very likely, considering the 2007 traffic count was 145 000 vehicles per day. In any way, 260 000 vpd would make R1 the second-busiest motorway in Europe (after M-30 in Madrid which tops 312 000 vpd).
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Various Belgian media report the 2010 traffic volume on R1 in Antwerpen (Berchem - Borgerhout) was 260 000 vehicles per day. While this is technically not impossible, it's not very likely, considering the 2007 traffic count was 145 000 vehicles per day. In any way, 260 000 vpd would make R1 the second-busiest motorway in Europe (after M-30 in Madrid which tops 312 000 vpd).
I saw a headline and blurb on De Standaard's site yesterday (didn't try to read the article) that I didn't understand and can't find now. Something about the Antwerp ring carring more vehicles and the Brussels one being busier....
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Old April 6th, 2011, 07:44 PM   #1045
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The Brussels ring road is more congested because the intensity / capacity ratio is worse (180 000 vehicles on six lanes vs the alleged 260 000 vehicles on 10 lanes).
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Old April 7th, 2011, 10:33 AM   #1046
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You'll need to be abonnee if you want to read the full article, but this is what I could find:

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Antwerpse ring drukste snelweg van Vlaanderen
woensdag 06 april 2011, 05u00Auteur: (vhn) BRUSSEL - Tussen Borgerhout en Berchem passeren elke dag 260.000 voertuigen, waarvan iets meer dan een vijfde vrachtwagens. Wegvakken op de Antwerpse ring, bijvoorbeeld tussen de afritten Antwerpen-Zuid en Berchem, maken nagenoeg de complete top tien uit van de meest drukke snelwegen in Vlaanderen.
http://www.standaard.be/artikel/deta...ring+antwerpen

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05/04 De Antwerpse ring is de allerdrukste snelweg van Vlaanderen. Tussen Berchem en Borgerhout passeren maar liefst 260.000 chauffeurs per dag.


Het aantal voertuigen op de ring is een absoluut record. De cijfers komen van de zogenaamde detectielussen, kabels in de weg die verbonden zijn met een meettoestel. In die meetsystemen is de laatste jaren tien miljoen euro geïnvesteerd.

Ter vergelijking: op de Brusselse ring staat op sommige plaatsen 16 uur file per dag. Tussen Jette en Zellik passeren 186.000 voertuigen. Dat is minder dan in Antwerpen, maar er zijn ook minder rijstroken.

Het aantal vrachtwagens is ook gestegen op onze wegen. In Antwerpen is een vijfde van het verkeer vrachtverkeer.
http://www.gva.be/nieuws/binnenland/...n-video-2.aspx

There is a nice vid on that page where you can see the everyday traffic jams and show you the detection system.. They also speak about the Brussels RO ps: Anyone know how to add a movie from adobe flashplayer like the one above?)

Articles: Between borgerhout and berchem, 260.000 vehicules drive everyday. More than 1/5 are trucks going and departing from the harbour of Antwerp. The numbers are recorded by detection systems that are build in the roads pavement.
For compairison; On the Brussels RO drive 186.000 vehicules/day and that results in 16hours of traffic jams/day.

Now I would like to know about traffic volumes on the E313, it's only a 2x2 higway for the most part but it's always jammed towards Antwerp...
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At 2x2, about 90 000 - 100 000 is really the max. (which means near-constant congestion).
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So how would they come at 260.000 for he R1? Like you said that is impossible...
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Old April 7th, 2011, 10:52 AM   #1049
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At 2x2, about 90 000 - 100 000 is really the max. (which means near-constant congestion).
http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/binnenland/1.997055

"Vehicles per day per direction"

So for E313 around Hasselt it would be around 74 000. Even though I think it gets the busiest around the last 25km before Antwerp...


Some more highwaysrelated news:

New campaign to protect motorcyclists
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuw...ek_en/1.996425

Higher taxes on Diesel cars:
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuw...ek_en/1.996397
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This study: http://www.ersvlimburg.be/upload/401...eserapport.pdf

Says that afther merging with the E34, an thus when becoming a 3x3 highway, it handles between 137.000 and 150.000 vehicules a day. It also say that on an average day the E313 before merging with the E34 handles an average of 72.000 vehicules/day
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Old April 9th, 2011, 12:43 PM   #1051
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Replacement E313 Beringen-Ham




The E313 Highway between Ham end Beringen will be fully replaced. Budget= 20million EURO.
Works already began a 21 march and will end in oktober.
First 3 bridges will be renewed, those have already been done.

next:

-Breaking up of all the fundations
-Reconstruction of the fundation in continuous reinforced concrete.
-New sewer system
-New concrete noice barriers (across the whole E313 in Limburg, I noticed them being placed in Hasselt yesterday)
-New steel crash barriers

but no new illumination

The road will be fully broken op on both sides at Tessenderlo and trafiic wil have to take the parralell roads there. In other section the traffic wil pass at one side of the road and the shoulders will be widened to handle the traffic.


http://www.wegenenverkeer.be/images/...essenderlo.gif


This is a pic that was in my newspaper today. couldn't find it on the internet so I scanned it...

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Wow that is a serious renovation! Too bad they don't widen it at the same time too...
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Yes ineed, maybe they've thought about it in the new design so they can easely ad a new lane in the future, but I doubt it
Anyway i'm glad they finally do something about this highway, full of puttholes and pavement that looks like patchwork.

Anyway, I hope we have a gouvernment soon, The NVA has forseen much more funding for highways and roads in Flanders (not in Wallonia because they voted for a party that doesn't want to change the budget for highways) So a lot of new projects on Flander's highways will follow the coming years...Finally!
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Yep, masterplan Antwerpen 2020 is badly needed. If nothing is done Antwerpen region will face a complete and total collapse of traffic. Truck traffic alone will occupy 4 - 6 lanes on some motorways, leaving no or little space for other traffic. The saturation and the lack of redundancy of the Antwerpen regional road network are already severe.
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Funny you should mention that: saw this last night on De Standaard's site -

http://www.standaard.be/artikel/deta...MF20110408_157

EDIT: and what's the "new A102"?
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Anyway, I hope we have a gouvernment soon, The NVA has forseen much more funding for highways and roads in Flanders (not in Wallonia because they voted for a party that doesn't want to change the budget for highways) So a lot of new projects on Flander's highways will follow the coming years...Finally!
I'm trying to get my head around this paragraph: I thought highways are a regional matter; is the funding federal? And it seems odd to me that the budget would treat the regions differently.... (And do Flemings and francophones end up fighting over how much highway funding there would be in Brussels, although I guess there aren't a lot of highways there....?)
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I thought highways are a regional matter; is the funding federal?
Yes, they are regional, as is the funding. So there being a new federal government should have no effect on planned investments on highways.
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[QUOTE=Penn's Woods;75770795]I'm trying to get my head around this paragraph: I thought highways are a regional matter; is the funding federal? And it seems odd to me that the budget would treat the regions differently.... (And do Flemings and francophones end up fighting over how much highway funding there would be in Brussels, although I guess there aren't a lot of highways there....?)[/QUOTE]

Only like 3 miles of motorway or so because RO is mostly on Flemisch territory.
Anyway sometimes I don't get the funding things myself, but the average belgian doen't lies awake at night from that :p
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So how would they come at 260.000 for he R1? Like you said that is impossible...
The R1 is not 2x2 but more 2x5 or even 2x6 at the widest point (like here).

So 260.000 is not that impossible.
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I'm trying to get my head around this paragraph: I thought highways are a regional matter; is the funding federal? And it seems odd to me that the budget would treat the regions differently.... (And do Flemings and francophones end up fighting over how much highway funding there would be in Brussels, although I guess there aren't a lot of highways there....?)[/QUOTE]

Only like 3 miles of motorway or so because RO is mostly on Flemisch territory.
Anyway sometimes I don't get the funding things myself, but the average belgian doen't lies awake at night from that :p
Does that mean that the signs in the Flemish of the ring only in Dutch and the bit in Brussels in both languages?
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