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Old April 26th, 2011, 11:31 PM   #1081
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WTF some Belgians attached a swing set to a bridge across the Antwerpen Ring Road.
That looks like fun!
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Old April 27th, 2011, 10:13 AM   #1082
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Goedenavond/Bonsoir!

I'm playing with Google maps and just came across a road outside Ličge marked "P415" (it's in the middle of this map: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie...,0.109692&z=13) And I saw a couple of Ps down in the province of Luxembourg on another playing-with-maps session a few days ago.

Are these provincial roads? I've checked both of these findings against three paper road atlases* and they're not there, and I've never noticed any other "P" roads on paper maps.... Are they actually marked?

*The 2010 Michelin Benelux road atlas, a Geocart Benelux road atlas which has no date but I bought it a year or two ago, and this fabulous publication: http://www.amerigo.nl/belgie/9020948539.html
I googled a bit and it is indeed a "Provincial" Road. As you most likely know there are 10 provinces in Belgium and they maintain these really small roads. Usually they're not even numbered.

Here's a discussion about it in Dutch, but on the second picture he posted, he found out that on ViaMichelin maps, they are also shown: http://www.wegenforum.nl/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1530
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Old April 27th, 2011, 03:51 PM   #1083
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Also a lot of roads used to be P-roads but then got an N-road afther some reforms. I don't really now much about is...It just means that a lot of roads that where previously funded by a province became funded by the nation, bu that hapened long time ago.
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Old April 28th, 2011, 01:22 PM   #1084
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The transition to relatively the Flemish state and the cities happend only a couple of years ago, 2007 if I'm not mistaken. P-roads never existed in Flanders though. Even though the provinces no longer maintain roads, some roads were/are stull under provincial care until their quality was/is acceptable enough for the state to be willingly to take them under their care.

Most provincial roads used to connect cities within the province outside the regular national road network or they used to have very low nation route numbers. Their design was/is very similar; spacious concrete roads with a hard shoulder, originally for pedistrians, now for cyclists.

The cities never really bothered wether the road was in an acceptable condition or not for they are ranked lower on the food chain and you don't bite the hand that used to feed you.
The roads that are now city roads but still have a nation road number are being funded by the state.

Typical provincial design


Altough a large part of them were converted to this when transferred to a city




Or this when transfered to (a city, funded by) the state





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Old April 30th, 2011, 10:40 AM   #1085
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Old April 30th, 2011, 04:02 PM   #1086
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Great vid
Old concrete road...and the usual old rowhome ribbon development
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Old April 30th, 2011, 10:24 PM   #1087
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Old May 1st, 2011, 12:01 AM   #1088
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Is this the road along the Brugge-Sluis canal ?
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Old May 1st, 2011, 04:20 AM   #1089
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Sorry,i dont know.Its a picture from an old motorcycle touring magazine
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 06:04 PM   #1090
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A Belgian freeway light, up close

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Old May 3rd, 2011, 06:36 PM   #1091
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It's actually giant
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Old May 7th, 2011, 05:59 PM   #1092
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New railway in the median of the E19 between Brussels and Mechelen:
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Old May 7th, 2011, 06:21 PM   #1093
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For more information and pictures about the line mentioned above, you can check these two topics in the Belgian section of the forum (mainly in Dutch):

RAIL : Diabolo, ontsluiting Brussels Airport (1)
RAIL : Diabolo, ontsluiting Brussels Airport (2)

The second is the continuation of the first thread. We've been gathering all information on it since 2007, so it's quite lengthy :P

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Old May 7th, 2011, 11:40 PM   #1094
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Some statistics about the Belgian motorway network.





Interestingly, 1972 was also the top year in the Netherlands. In 1971, the UK saw the largest amount of mileage added.
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Old May 8th, 2011, 10:38 AM   #1095
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Oops we forgot building a new one last 20 years
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Old May 8th, 2011, 06:39 PM   #1096
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10 years, I think the E40 to Calais was opened in that year.
With the opening of the N74, A11 and N31 we will get a lengthy boost to our network.
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Old May 8th, 2011, 06:45 PM   #1097
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The last openings were E429 around Lessines and E25 in Ličge in 2000. E40 was completed a few years earlier.
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Old May 8th, 2011, 08:17 PM   #1098
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N40-very late in the afternoon.



This is actually N597 road. N40 we'll see after several kilometres.
















We are turning to N53 Beuamont.


Kind of confusion here. Need to make a decision.








Well, toutes directions will lead us to N40, hopefully.


Here we are.




Let's turn right.
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Old May 8th, 2011, 08:38 PM   #1099
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Very typical for N40 long and straight stretch.


















The commune Givet(on top of the sign) lies on the river Meuse on French territory. N40 crosses Givet entering France and then continue in Belgium again.




It's getting really dark.






















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Let me show you a briefed report of N96.





















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