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Old July 8th, 2011, 01:00 AM   #1301
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your vids are all equally fun watching
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Old July 9th, 2011, 09:49 PM   #1302
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New video, for testing my new camera (Samsung ST90). It shows a part of the E40 highway between Aalter and Nevele. At the end you see the traffic jam at the exit Aalter, this is very commun every evening rush hour.


(At the moment poor quality, because youtube is still processing the video.)
Great video, a bit of a dodgy move at 1:00!
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Old July 9th, 2011, 09:58 PM   #1303
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Thank you

Today I was in Gent and I've made 2 new video's.

N498-N9 Maldegem - Eeklo, a typical Belgian oldschoolroad:


A tour around Gent:
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Old July 10th, 2011, 01:14 PM   #1304
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Take this (tourist sign) as example.
A dirty old sign, but it's not replaced "because you can still read it"... It gives the whole road an outdated look. I know this sign and today it looks even worse. But nobody thinks of replacing it...

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These signs will be replaced in the future once the new design has been chosen out of a whole bunch people sent in
However, signs that were in really bad condition have been replaced in the past in the same design but according to the techniques of the new Standaardbestek.

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It is. Between 00.30 and 05.30 except during harsh winter and in dangerous area. Now if you're so cocky that you can't admit that Wallonia may sometimes take good decisions and make use of it before Flanders I can't help you.
Erm, if I'm not mistaken we were the first ones to do that years ago. Wallonia followed our example on this one.
I really wish there was something good to say about Wallonia but there isn't, so I'm sorry but I can't.
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Old July 10th, 2011, 03:18 PM   #1305
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@ 1:50 in you first vid a pre-war car daviedoff
Like the vid of the tipical Belgian concrete main road
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Old July 10th, 2011, 10:11 PM   #1306
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I really wish there was something good to say about Wallonia but there isn't, so I'm sorry but I can't.
See, we in Wallonia are used to get that kind of comment by our northern "neighbour", yet *we* wallonians are supposed to be the disrespectful, disdainful ones.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 12:13 AM   #1307
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Walloons have never appeared disrespectful to me. Only the french-speaking (mostly non-Walloons) that come to settle in Flanders and refuse to speak even the most basic Dutch in my own town are disrespectful.

I'd hereby like to apologise for the Flemish who can't see the difference there. Usually they're the kind of people who live so far away from the problem that they don't know what's going on over here, but still have a very strong opinion about it. Everybody I know who lives nearby has the same opinion as me: Walloons themselves are a very friendly people, which we hope we are as well, but those who settle here and refuse to adapt, they're the problem of the whole situation. Sadly enough the politicians reacted very slowly against that, resulting in some of the problems we have today (most are actually just problems for politicians since they'd be losing votes in certain areas).

There's plenty of good to be said about Wallonia. But positive news doesn't make good news (for TV and radio stations), so we don't get to hear too much about that...

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Old July 11th, 2011, 01:05 PM   #1308
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See, we in Wallonia are used to get that kind of comment by our northern "neighbour", yet *we* wallonians are supposed to be the disrespectful, disdainful ones.
I understand your point of view and I always wish to talk about it in a constructive way, like we always did. Unfortunately your politicians haven't been very constructive for the past four years so yeah, it's logic that we're keeping our leg stiff.
We're still all Belgians, but we're so different and I think that's what making our country so special.
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Old July 11th, 2011, 09:59 PM   #1309
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Belgium is certainly interesting. And Walloon roads aren't that bad, they're better than roads in Somalia.

Wallonia has lots of nice things and places as does Flanders
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Old July 12th, 2011, 12:26 PM   #1310
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I understand your point of view and I always wish to talk about it in a constructive way, like we always did. Unfortunately your politicians haven't been very constructive for the past four years so yeah, it's logic that we're keeping our leg stiff.
We're still all Belgians, but we're so different and I think that's what making our country so special.
Why can't you all grow up and be a bit more like Switzerland? You might - who knows - even have a government then..
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Old July 12th, 2011, 04:15 PM   #1311
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As an interested but neutral observer, I have to say I see plenty of unconstructive politicians on both sides. And the whole mess is facilitated by a system where - what, 7, 8? - parties have to agree on anything and where all of the parties are regionalized (so no Flemish party needs to care about francophone voters and vice versa).

The whole thing's a case study in why proportional representation is not always an ideal way to elect a legislature. It would be completely anomalous, just from a point of view of democratic legitimacy, if a party that represents 15% of the voters got the country to break up, but I hope that's not the N-VA's endgame.

And that's all I'm saying.
Now, anything new in roads? Or pretty pictures?
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Old July 12th, 2011, 04:46 PM   #1312
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Why can't you all grow up and be a bit more like Switzerland? You might - who knows - even have a government then..
The thing is that on the Flemish side there's a big voice for a Switzerland-like system with most power centered in the regions. But the Wallonian side is afraid that that will eventually tear apart the country, resulting in financial losses for them.

I know a few Wallonians and they're also pissed off about their politicians...
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Old July 12th, 2011, 04:49 PM   #1313
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The thing is that on the Flemish side there's a big voice for a Switzerland-like system with most power centered in the regions. But the Wallonian side is afraid that that will eventually tear apart the country, resulting in financial losses for them.
Excellent explanation of the whole 'crisis'.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 05:55 PM   #1314
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Why can't you all grow up and be a bit more like Switzerland? You might - who knows - even have a government then..
Belgium is already a federal state where most of the power has been alocated to the states. We even changed our constitution for that in 1992, it has been signed by the king of Belgium as well.
It's the last federal bit (our social security) that's causing all the problems.
What Flanders is asking now is to take this reform of state to the next level and evolve to a confederal system where there's no federal level anymore.

The problem is not just Wallonia vs Flanders but more important, Right vs Left. The biggest party in the south is the Socialists Party with 30% of all votes (they've been the biggest party for years and have representatives in every political layer).
In the north the biggest party is the N-VA or the New Flemish Alliance. In the last elections they came out with nearly 30% of the votes as well (altough they would win today with 40% of all votes).
Both party's differ radically and so do our states.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 08:11 PM   #1315
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What Flanders is asking now is to take this reform of state to the next level and evolve to a confederal system where there's no federal level anymore.
That's not entirely correct. There will still be a federal level (responsible for parts of social security, public safety (police), justice and defense).
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Is the tax system on a federal basis?
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Old July 12th, 2011, 08:20 PM   #1317
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All right, I have a roads-related Belgian federalism question (well, a couple of questions actually): I know the roads are a regional responsibility, but the numbering system is national (N-roads don't change numbers at the regional borders, numbers used in one region won't also be used elsewhere unless it's the same road crossing the line....) How is that coordinated? I assume that the numbering system was established by the central government before the roads were regionalized, but how is the unified system maintained?

Also, I get more information about Belgium in French than in Dutch, and as far as I can tell, francophones are in the habit of calling N-roads "national" rather than "regional" ("la nationale 5," for example). I assume this is mostly a matter of people using the terms they're used to.
I'm curious whether Flemings do the same: in casual conversation, how'd you refer to the N16 - "Rijksweg 16"? And do non-roadgeeks in casual conversation talk about "gewestwegen" or "nationale wegen" or what?
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Old July 13th, 2011, 11:55 AM   #1318
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We usually talk about gewestwegen, rijkswegen or steenwegen. About the numbering system, if you go into it more you will see that it is very logic, it came into effect in 1986. In those days Belgium only had 9 provinces and wasn't a real federal state yet.
There's an article on the Dutch wikipedia which explains it all.

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That's not entirely correct. There will still be a federal level (responsible for parts of social security, public safety (police), justice and defense).
The intention always has been to transfer those matters to the states as well
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Old July 13th, 2011, 12:08 PM   #1319
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Belgium at least still has a logically numbered main non-motorway system. The Netherlands doesn't have that, there is no N1, N4 or N16 in the Netherlands. There are only motorways or very low capacity provincial roads with 3-digit numbers. Only a few 1- and 2-digit numbers remain and most of them are less than 30 kilometers long.
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Old July 13th, 2011, 12:59 PM   #1320
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I love Belgium Motorways, there is some arctic touch to it, it never gets dark
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