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Old September 18th, 2011, 12:31 AM   #1461
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EDIT: never mind. It was late and my brain was apparently already sleeping.

I agree though: all our motorways should've gotten proper matrix signs on all sections for indicating either maximum speeds or a text message.

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Old September 18th, 2011, 09:54 AM   #1462
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Not GPS, cruise control. Ok? I'll type very slowly so you can understand this. Cruise control.
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Old September 18th, 2011, 11:27 AM   #1463
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The thinking behind the "no cruise control" signs is that you are entering an area not suitable for cruise control, as there tend to be larger differences in the mean speed of road users. If I recall correctly, I have mostly seen them in the approach to road works where you, indeed, see these differences which may come up out of nothing.

You can indeed approach it as a form of overregulation. As a foreign road user, I consider these signs more as a safety warning than as a prohibition. But then again, I do not have cruise control, so I cannot feel offended by the signs...
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Old September 18th, 2011, 12:58 PM   #1464
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Not GPS, cruise control. Ok? I'll type very slowly so you can understand this. Cruise control.
Thanks for yet another personal attack implying that I'm stupid... I drove 3 hours yesterday and then got home to see you still ignore all messages that aren't convenient for you. I then make the mistake of writing GPS again instead of cruise control, but apparently that's inexcusable to you. I guess I'll be the most mature person by adding you to my ignore list. Otherwise you'll just anger me more.

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Old September 18th, 2011, 01:54 PM   #1465
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I haven't ignored them, others have answered them for me.
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Old September 18th, 2011, 03:45 PM   #1466
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Old September 18th, 2011, 06:25 PM   #1467
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Proper matrix traffic management is the answer to that. Not the crap Belgians put on the roads.
When it comes to "crap" signage, I believe the Austrians deserve a gold medal. our signs are atleast readible, unlike the ones in Austria which seem to have been made in MS Word.

I don't see what's so bad about it










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Old September 18th, 2011, 11:14 PM   #1468
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Thanks for posting a few half-decent signs existing in Belgium. You are well aware that Belgium contains a lot of fork signs with three or four focals in each direction, which are then written in SNV Condensed; centred or aligned at the right if you're even more unlucky. Even road numbers tend to go in Engschrift on Belgian fork signs.

And of course lack of continuity will not become apparent from a couple of photos. But it will when you try to follow E19 past Antwerp...
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Old September 18th, 2011, 11:23 PM   #1469
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Do you call this normal?

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Old September 19th, 2011, 12:04 AM   #1470
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As a Belgian: of course.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 12:10 AM   #1471
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Do you call this normal?

Belgium has a huge number of roads and motorways, so it is not strange that signs are full and complicated.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 12:12 AM   #1472
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Yes it is, you'd expect them to be more efficient.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 12:16 AM   #1473
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Yes it is, you'd expect them to be more efficient.
Well, maybe... But the roads and their quality is the most important thing. Don't forget that today almost everybody uses GPS devices and don't look at signs that much anyways...
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Old September 19th, 2011, 10:21 AM   #1474
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Belgium has a huge number of roads and motorways, so it is not strange that signs are full and complicated.
Are you getting that everything behind the "-" 's on this sign are just the exonyms and not other cities? You won't even remember half of this sign driving with 120km/h here...
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Old September 19th, 2011, 10:23 AM   #1475
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The signs wimpie posted are the better ones, the sign road_UK posted is about the worst one. Most of Belgium's signage is somewhere in between.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 10:46 AM   #1476
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It's not a complicated sign, it just has too much information to take in significantly quickly.

Some Belgian motorway junctions have lots of exits.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 12:13 PM   #1477
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Are you getting that everything behind the "-" 's on this sign are just the exonyms and not other cities? You won't even remember half of this sign driving with 120km/h here...
I don't think it matters that much now anyways. 90% of the drivers use GPS navigation and don't even bother looking at signs.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 12:34 PM   #1478
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Yes, they bother. Enough people who still drive without GPS and even with it you still need some confirmation that you're actually driving in the right directions.
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Old September 19th, 2011, 05:49 PM   #1479
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Do YOU call this normal?

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Old September 19th, 2011, 05:53 PM   #1480
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Thanks for posting a few half-decent signs existing in Belgium. You are well aware that Belgium contains a lot of fork signs with three or four focals in each direction, which are then written in SNV Condensed; centred or aligned at the right if you're even more unlucky. Even road numbers tend to go in Engschrift on Belgian fork signs.
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As a Belgian I disagree, you know as well as I do that internally lit signage in the Flemish state of Belgium is always of this quality. Which is to me personally quite well.
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