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Old January 11th, 2012, 09:50 PM   #1781
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E17 (F)(B) -Kortrijk -Gent - Antwerp. Christmas Day 9.30 AM







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Old January 11th, 2012, 10:05 PM   #1782
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Well done posting these pictures! Another wonderful example of Belgian (Flemish haha) carefully and well thought-out designed road planning. Building a left-hand on and off slip on the Antwerp ring, right on one of the busiest stretches in Belgium, with a uninterrupted white line that lasts for km's! Coming from Gent, mostly used by freight traffic heading for the docks, and congestion due to this masterpiece 100% ensured!
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Old January 11th, 2012, 10:13 PM   #1783
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E17 (F)(B)Kortrijk - Gent - Antwerp. 2011 Christmas day 9.35 AM

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Old January 11th, 2012, 10:40 PM   #1784
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Thanks a lot for the great pictures!!! They are really appreciated!
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Old January 11th, 2012, 10:46 PM   #1785
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Well done posting these pictures! Another wonderful example of Belgian (Flemish haha) carefully and well thought-out designed road planning. Building a left-hand on and off slip on the Antwerp ring, right on one of the busiest stretches in Belgium, with a uninterrupted white line that lasts for km's! Coming from Gent, mostly used by freight traffic heading for the docks, and congestion due to this masterpiece 100% ensured!

Coming from Ghent, that's just driving straight forward if you ask me. Would you please explain this on a map or so? I have no idea what you mean.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 10:54 PM   #1786
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Coming from Ghent, that's just driving straight forward if you ask me. Would you please explain this on a map or so? I have no idea what you mean.
Sure. Coming from Gent, on the E17, you approach the Antwerp Orbital as you may know. Keep right (and in lane) you head towards Breda, Liege and Brussels. (majority of traffic) Exit LEFT and you head towards Rotterdam and Antwerp Docks. This exit LEFT is primarily used by freight traffic.

Now, who's bright idea was it to build an exit LEFT on such a busy junction.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 11:13 PM   #1787
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It's a cheaper way to build a stack interchange. U.S. freeway interchanges with left exits are often called "malfunction junctions" due to their weaving troubles.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 11:20 PM   #1788
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Ah I get it now. probably it was cheaper to build not having create a longer viaduct across the highway

Same type of crossing in Loncin near Liège on the A3.

Edit: Chriszwolle was first.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 11:25 PM   #1789
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This is maybe a temporary set-up waiting for the long time planned Oosterweelverbinding leg of R1. If this was built the splits two arms would be more equal in traffic numbers...
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Old January 11th, 2012, 11:38 PM   #1790
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It's a cheaper way to build a stack interchange. U.S. freeway interchanges with left exits are often called "malfunction junctions" due to their weaving troubles.
It's virtually unknown in Europe. I can't recall a junction like that anywhere, apart from Antwerp. Not on spots where there are high volumes of traffic anyway.
Of course there a points where the road number continues as an exit. M25/M20 in the UK for example, where equal amounts of traffic flow in either direction, or in Germany the A3 at Oberhausen and Nürnberg. And our own A12 at Innsbruck, where keeping in lane you head towards Brenner, Italy ( A13,majority of traffic) , while the A12 carries on as an exit and further towards Switzerland.

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Old January 12th, 2012, 12:03 AM   #1791
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A3 near Liège has a same type of crossing as that one in Antwerp with exits on the left.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 12:56 AM   #1792
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I love the new design, they used it on the renewed part of the E313 in Limburg as well.

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Old January 12th, 2012, 11:05 AM   #1793
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What is the meaning of pointed arrows on rightmost lane in some pictures?
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Old January 12th, 2012, 12:32 PM   #1794
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They are the Belgian equivalent of this French system (maybe Flanders only, I'm not sure). Arrows are painted on the road at fixed intervals, and signs encourage drivers to maintain the safety distance of at least two arrows.

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Old January 12th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #1795
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What is the meaning of pointed arrows on rightmost lane in some pictures?
Probably to check the visibility distance in case of fog and adjust your speed accordingly? I saw something similar on Hungarian motorways.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 03:19 PM   #1796
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Old January 12th, 2012, 03:21 PM   #1797
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Looking good and clear , maybe we should a a bit more sphalt to the side of sholder or place a barrier or something...
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Old January 12th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #1798
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Does anyone know how long does at-grade railway crossing gates sound and start to go down before a trains comes in Belgium?

I think there should be some sort of EU-wide regulation on this, here in Netherlands it is 30-35 seconds and sometimes I've seen Belgian drivers "racing" the gates, which is extremely dangerous to do so because of the short time and fast gate closing (less than 12 seconds between first beeps and complete descent movement).
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Old January 12th, 2012, 03:59 PM   #1799
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I think it's longer, more like 50seconds or so before the train comes through.

We are still Belgium, rules of the road are not follwed as strict as in The Netherlands of Germany

I dare to say that +60% of Belgians is speeding when driving on regular roads. Who the hell drives 50km/h anyway?

Edit: I found a vid, and it shows that such crossings in Belgium are dangerous, waiting times are to long and not always the same and people don't really give a damn.
It's obviouwly clear either a brigde or an underpass needs to be build in these two vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHdxD...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMTC...layer_embedded


These above are near small trainstations ofcourse. This one is how it usually goes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMTC...layer_embedded

France is worse though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=7ewz0DbTIxc
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Old January 12th, 2012, 05:59 PM   #1800
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True, some railwaycrossings are quite outdated and sometimes dangerous. There's a major improvement compared to lets say 30 years ago but that's just because the roads themselves have become more safe. Ofcourse like in the examples you gave, it's not always possible or even realistic to build a tunnel/overpass.
Unfortunately maintenance of the railroad crossings is still in hands of the infrastructural division of the NMBS and they're not always known for their excellent management...
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