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Old June 16th, 2012, 12:52 PM   #1901
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Lummen is certainly not the only motorway intersection with ponds in it. In the Netherlands, we've got a few too. Never heard anything about smells or comparable complaints. Though I am not really sure why they create these ponds.

Anyway, one horror intersection gone, but Belgium has got a few motorway intersections with conflicts to go. Top of the list: Cheratte between E40 and E25.
E40-E17 Antwerp bound could benefit with some attention...
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Old June 21st, 2012, 11:58 PM   #1902
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"Overkapping" (the Antwerp Ring)? Does that mean they want to cover it?
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Old June 21st, 2012, 11:59 PM   #1903
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Yes.
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:02 AM   #1904
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These "roofs on motorways" can be good ideas, but putting a roof on the entire R1 is far too expensive. Plus, the space that is freed up is usually not used very efficiently, you can't construct buildings on it or parks with trees. Like in Paris, you'll probably end up with a bunch of tennis courts on it.
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:03 AM   #1905
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"Overkapping" (the Antwerp Ring)? Does that mean they want to cover it?
Do you read the articles in Dutch? Or do you translate it through Google or some sort?
If you are you should take a look on the Italian Motorway thread...
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:04 AM   #1906
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It looks like it's a Green Party proposal. I assume this is theirs alone, not likely to pass?
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:05 AM   #1907
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Do you read the articles in Dutch? Or do you translate it through Google or some sort?
If you are you should take a look on the Italian Motorway thread...
I can read Dutch, more or less, but I just had time to skim the article. The word "overkapping," I didn't know, but it's an obvious cognate.
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:06 AM   #1908
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It is not a word that is used everyday.
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:06 AM   #1909
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An "overkapping" is a hot topic nowadays, not only in Belgium but also in the Netherlands, France and Germany in particular, where many large projects incorporate some kind of "einhausung" across the motorway.
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:10 AM   #1910
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I just asked my Austrian friend if he knows the word Einhausung.

He hasn't got a clue...

Keine Anhung!
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:11 AM   #1911
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Off topic (1): I learned the other day (in the New York Times, I think) that the four languages with the largest number of articles on Wikipedia are English, French, German and Dutch. (French and German may not be in that order.) The article was about the relative lack of content in Spanish.

Off topic (2): I learned two minutes ago that the first Atlantic hurricane of the year is named Chris.

Sorry....
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 12:37 AM   #1912
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I just asked my Austrian friend if he knows the word Einhausung.

He hasn't got a clue...

Keine Anhung!
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einhausung

They are not as common in Austria as they are in Germany. Innsbruck recently got an "einhausung" across A12.

Belgium doesn't have many / any yet...
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 02:59 PM   #1913
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Yes, the A3 at Goldbach did spring to mind when you mentioned it, as well as the Amras tunnel at Innsbruck. Others in Austria are the ones that function as protection against avalanches. There are a few of those in the Zillertal. In Belgian I can only think of those silly tube thingies near Genk...
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 07:51 PM   #1914
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Covered highways can be ok, but some of the schemes I see are just weird... and, of course, they make widening a very expensive proposition...

The only thing that bothers me is that they talk so much of covering highways to eliminate physical barrier in cities, yet they ignore the elephant in the room of most European cities: massive rail yards or station approaches that are as wide as 40-lane highways, usually without any over/underpass.
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 09:26 PM   #1915
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Nobody proposes to cover interchanges, either...
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Old June 27th, 2012, 02:41 AM   #1916
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R2 Beveren - Zandvliet with the Liefkenshoek toll tunnel, new version:




A54/E420 from Nivelles to Charleroi:

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Old June 27th, 2012, 04:31 PM   #1917
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Outside the dirty cities like Liège and Charleroi, the Southern Wallonie area is very beautiful and actually quite high, sometimes over 600m, with deep river valleys. It's an important tourist attraction. You can even ski here in winter.
Is that high???
Anyway, your English has improved a lot over the years
Since I've added Autopager to my Firefox, I like to dig a bit into history...
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Old June 27th, 2012, 07:07 PM   #1918
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R2 is in a bad state judging from the video + my gosh that's one empty highway...
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Old June 27th, 2012, 07:16 PM   #1919
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Brussels and Antwerp have worst traffic


Traffic jams in Belgium are the worst in the world, according to a survey carried out by the US traffic information platform Inrix, which looked at the GPS data of 100 million motorists in Europe and North America.

Milan comes at the top of the list, followed by Brussels and Antwerp. In Belgium as a whole, the average motorist spends 55 hours a year in traffic, the worst score in the survey. In Brussels, the figure goes up to 70.5 hours, and in Antwerp 70.2. Ghent comes third in Belgium on 50 hours. The worst place to be is, apparently, in Antwerp on a Friday between 16.00 and 17.00, when you can expect your journey to take 40% longer than at other times.

Motoring organisation Touring said the figures were “the result of decisions not being thought through” and compared Belgian cities to “fortified fortresses” where traffic was held on the outskirts, with no options like park-and-ride zones.

Flemish mobility minister Hilde Crevits noted that the number of roadworks at present was not helping the problem but warned that there are “no miracle solutions. There is a need for major investment, not only in the roads network but also in public transport, and in improving road safety so that there are fewer accidents to disrupt traffic.”

http://www.flanderstoday.eu/content/...-worst-traffic

The stats can be found here:
http://scorecard.inrix.com/scorecard
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 09:49 PM   #1920
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I have a question for you guys.

Several years ago (2005 maybe?) I watched in TV some news about speed limits in Flemish motorways being lowered from 120 to 90 km/h due to pollution. Later on, Catalan regional government used this as an argument for lowering speed in motorways in Barcelona metro area from 120 to 80 km/h. The measure is now (fortunately) gone, but I wonder what happened with Flemish motorways. How long did that last? Did it apply to all the network?

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