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Old August 20th, 2009, 05:33 PM   #2181
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I don't know. May be, but I would expect some war damage then, so I think it's post-WWII pavement.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 05:37 PM   #2182
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Very good there is a speedlimit on that crappy part of the A9. Otherwise you and your car might end up like this.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 06:14 PM   #2183
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A4 Bad Hersfeld - Erfurt - Hermsdorfer Kreuz

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A drive on the A4 eastbound, all the way from the Kirchheimer Dreieck near Bad Hersfeld via Eisenach, Erfurt and Jena to the Hermsdorfer Kreuz, a distance of 180 kilometers. The A4 is an Autobahn of contrasts, the substandard narrow part between Bad Hersfeld and Eisenach, and the wide open spaces east of Eisenach.

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1. Distances after Dreieck Kirchheim.
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2. Torn down bridge.
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3. This part of Hessen is very wooded and hilly.
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4. Exit Bad Hersfeld.
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5. A big distribution center of Amazon, we're in the center of Germany after all.
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6. Many sections are limited to 120 km/h.
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7. Exit Friedewald.
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8. Exit Wildeck-Hönebach.
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10. Through the hills.
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11. Exit Wildeck-Obersuhl.
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12. Exit Gerstungen.
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13. Yay six lanes!
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14. Exit Herleshausen.
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15. Former DDR border.
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16. Rest area Ramsberg.
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17. Exit Eisenach-West. A new alignment for the A4 is build around Eisenach.
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18. Faded B7 sign.
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19. Eisenach-Mitte.
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20. Eisenach-Ost.
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21. Wutha-Farnroda.
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22. Another substandard section.
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23. Six lanes again.
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24. Distances.
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25. Gotha-Boxberg.
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26. Exit Gotha.
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27. Exit Wandersleben.
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28. Kreuz Erfurt ahead, but first an exit.
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29. Exit Neudietendorf.
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30. Interchange Erfurt.
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31. The wide open spaces of Thüringen.
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32.
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33. Erfurt-West.
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34. Erfurt-Ost.
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35. Erfurt-Vieselbach.
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36. Exit Nohra.
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37. Exit Weimar.
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38. Exit Apolda.
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39. View.
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40.
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41. Exit Magdala.
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42. Exit Schorba.
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43. Nice exit.
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44. Nice entrance. I try to avoid all "car-only" rest areas in Germany.
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45. Roadworks ahead.
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46. Jena exits ahead.
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47. Exit Jena-Göschwitz.
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48. The city of Jena ahead.
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49. Jena-Zentrum.
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50. A new six-lane tunnels is build here.
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51. Jena-Zentrum.
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52. Stadtroda.
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53. München is also signed now.
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54. Hermsdorfer Kreuz.
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55.
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56. End of the set.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 07:04 PM   #2184
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Old August 20th, 2009, 09:07 PM   #2185
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DDR ! That's how we roll

I really don't like these substandard secntion on A4, last time there I had a feeling like all cars are too close to each other
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Old August 20th, 2009, 09:08 PM   #2186
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Old August 20th, 2009, 09:16 PM   #2187
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And lack of entrance ramps is really dangerous these days, at least on these jammed, narrow 2X2 none does like 150-200 km/h
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Old August 20th, 2009, 09:20 PM   #2188
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I remember the DDR border well, I had lunch there last time I was there (2007)

About the lack of entrance lanes: when I was on this section (the other direction, btw) I remember cars waiting in line to enter the motorway. You really need space to accelerate in order to avoid accidents
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Old August 20th, 2009, 09:29 PM   #2189
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In 2007 there was no DDR border anymore

The A4 was interupted during the cold war near Wommen since a part of the A4 ran through DDR-territory. After the reunification of Germany this part was finally completed.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 09:32 PM   #2190
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I noticed, border parts of motorways between BRD and DDR were kinda crossed out on maps

Why ? No entry ?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 09:33 PM   #2191
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Of course, but the border station buildings are still there, and they turned part of it into a restaurant
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Old August 20th, 2009, 11:48 PM   #2192
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Before the reunification, the A 4 crossed the territory of the GDR once for several kilometres before re-entering West-Germany again and then finally going to the Eastern part.

This part, the so-called "Thüringer Zipfel", was closed until after 1990. The traffic was led out at Wildeck-Obersuhl (although the last exit would have been Gerstungen -- the town was in Eastern Germany, the exit on Western territory, so the exit made no sense -- and the Autobahn was interrupted by the Iron Curtain.

The B 400 led to the exit Wommen, where the A 4 could be re-entered after coming to Western territory again. Then, Herleshausen was the very last exit in the Federal Republic of Germyn before entering the GDR.

The Eastern checkpoint was named "Warta" after the local river, but not to the close town of Eisenach, for what reasons ever...
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Old August 21st, 2009, 12:16 AM   #2193
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WOW, I love these 6 lanes highways in Germany and picture 31, awesome, windmills in background. I want more!
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Old August 21st, 2009, 12:22 AM   #2194
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I dont know to much about Autobahns but is it true you could go as fast as you want on them, and there is no speedlimit?
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Old August 21st, 2009, 12:52 AM   #2195
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I dont know to much about Autobahns but is it true you could go as fast as you want on them, and there is no speedlimit?
That's true Abdallah

Well, about 60% has no speed limit. But most Germans do not drive over 170 km/h in my experience. Only few Germans drive really fast. Most traffic is around 140-150 km/h.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 12:53 AM   #2196
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Is this pavement really from 1936?
Definately not.
I'd say 1980ies.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 01:10 AM   #2197
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nice set, chris, as usual.

I hope, that I can drive on the A4 east of Eisenach (Hörselberge) again, before that part will be closed. Although it's substandard, I really like the scenery and the feeling to drive more on a parkway rather than on a motorway
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Old August 21st, 2009, 01:16 AM   #2198
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I see some rather concealed-looking exits and service ramps. Also, those long stretches without a hard shoulder - are they still Autobahns?
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Old August 21st, 2009, 09:12 AM   #2199
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Also, those long stretches without a hard shoulder - are they still Autobahns?
Yes. I think they would be downgraded to expressways in most other countries though.
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I hope, that I can drive on the A4 east of Eisenach (Hörselberge) again, before that part will be closed. Although it's substandard, I really like the scenery and the feeling to drive more on a parkway rather than on a motorway
What's the completion date for the new bypass of Eisenach? And when will the remaining parts of the A4 between Bad Hersfeld and Dresden be upgraded to 6 lanes?

terms like "Weiteren Bedarf" or "Vordringlicher Bedarf" don't say that much.
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