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Old August 30th, 2009, 12:22 PM   #2221
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A8 Salzburg - München

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This set follows A8 westbound from Salzburg at the Austrian border to München. This part of the A8 is really a road with two faces, the first half is a narrow aligned former Reichsautobahn with tight exits and nearly no shoulders, the second half is a wide 6 lane autobahn.

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Old August 30th, 2009, 02:05 PM   #2222
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Very nice Chris! I drove the bit from Munchen to Rosenheim earlier this year, lovely bit of 2x3 autobahn with sweeping bends and stunning views
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Old August 30th, 2009, 02:24 PM   #2223
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I was on this section twice in july, I didn't really like it though
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Old August 30th, 2009, 03:34 PM   #2224
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The part Salzburg - Rosenheim is the most horrible Autobahn in the whole country... Narrow, curved, with many steep ascends. It feels really scary to drive or be driven there. They should think of an upgrade.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 03:55 PM   #2225
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It's most horrible motorway in Germany after A11
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Old August 30th, 2009, 11:54 PM   #2226
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A22 planned alignment:


I can't wait until this motorway is build, together with A20 towards Lübeck. It would save me over an hour to Denmark, and a lot of potential congestion around Hamburg.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 11:56 PM   #2227
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Another important project in that region is the widening of A1 between Bremen and Hamburg. The connecting part from Osnabrück to Bremen will also be widened to 2x3 lanes.
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Old August 31st, 2009, 04:06 AM   #2228
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Another important project in that region is the widening of A1 between Bremen and Hamburg. The connecting part from Osnabrück to Bremen will also be widened to 2x3 lanes.
I drove the A1 from Hamburg to Köln in June, and I'm doing the other way around in three week's time. The A1, especially from Hamburg to Bremen, was horrible. I'm thinking about going over Hannover on the A2 to avoid that stretch. It's a few kms longer, but should take an hour less or so.
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Old August 31st, 2009, 04:15 AM   #2229
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How many are there kilometres of 2X3 motorways in Germany approx ?
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Old August 31st, 2009, 05:07 AM   #2230
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A22 planned alignment:
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I can't wait until this motorway is build, together with A20 towards Lübeck. It would save me over an hour to Denmark, and a lot of potential congestion around Hamburg.
What is the status of the section of the planned A22 between Neumünster and the A1 at Oldenberg, especially with the planned Puttgarden-Rodbyhavn crossing now having been green-lighted?

Also, with the A20 being planned to run as it is, I would think that the part of the A22 that is shown on your map would work best as a numbering extension of the A20, reserving the A22 number for the Neumünster-Oldenberg section, should it ever be built.

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Old August 31st, 2009, 10:45 AM   #2231
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Hallo friends!
Someone could explain please how does works the Autobahn numbering rules?
For example I see that exist the A650 but there isn't 650 autobahn in Germany.
(ot not? )
Thank you for the answers!
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Old August 31st, 2009, 12:43 PM   #2232
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German Autobahns are divided into two groups: national and regional. National ones are numbered from 1 to 99, and regional from 100 to 999.

I don't know the exact rules for giving a given number, but Germany surely does not have 999 Autobahns
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Old August 31st, 2009, 02:46 PM   #2233
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Thanks PLH.
It seams, or it seams to me, that the Autobahn are divided by axis, for example from west-bound to est-bound or from noth to south and so on.
From this axis origin some diversion, for example the A61 is a diversion of A6.

Some of this axis are incomplete, for example a part of A4, but the axis is "visible" and clear, it goes from NL to PL, and from A4 origin the A44.
Is it true?
Tnx again
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Old August 31st, 2009, 03:01 PM   #2234
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About concrete road surface:
I drove in june on the A61, was a heavy rain day, on the surface there was almost 10 cm of water, it was very very dangerous!!!
We had to stop the car and wait for the rain stops.

Maybe this kind of surface is excellent in the winter to avoid freezed surface or breaked surface or something else, but is very dangerous with the rain.
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Old August 31st, 2009, 03:14 PM   #2235
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German Autobahns are divided into two groups: national and regional. National ones are numbered from 1 to 99, and regional from 100 to 999
Wrong.
Main Autobahns, national/international: A+one digit
Regional: A+two digits
Local: A+three digits

-> wikipedia German/English
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Old August 31st, 2009, 03:15 PM   #2236
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Yeah, I confused regional with local.
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Old August 31st, 2009, 03:36 PM   #2237
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Wrong.
Main Autobahns, national/international: A+one digit
Regional: A+two digits
Local: A+three digits

-> wikipedia German/English
Somehow is what I guess, A+one digit= national axis and the other, A+2 or 3 digit, are diversion (regional/local).
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Old August 31st, 2009, 03:44 PM   #2238
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Somehow is what I guess, A+one digit= national axis and the other, A+2 or 3 digit, are diversion (regional/local).
Just check here, everything you need is written!
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Old August 31st, 2009, 03:46 PM   #2239
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Thank you very much!
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Old August 31st, 2009, 03:47 PM   #2240
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How many are there kilometres of 2X3 motorways in Germany approx ?
I don't know the exact number of kilometres of 2x3 motorways, but I can share with you the map of german motorways showing the number of lanes.
http://rapidshare.com/files/27383464...arteOhneAS.rar

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