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Old November 1st, 2010, 10:21 PM   #2961
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Nice to see some progress now. I visited the worksite in the spring and there wasn't much going on back then.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 12:21 AM   #2962
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Good to see A30 being completed, thanks for the photos.

That reminds me -- I have seen a very memorable gantry sign right there in Bad Oeynhausen. Most probably, it was on the eastbound route E30 through the city, just where the traffic has successfully navigated through the streets and is ready to rejoin A30.

I remember that the sign was just above the autobahn sliproad; it was yellow, it was HUGE and there probably wasn't a lot of text on it - but the lettering was also HUGE. Seeing it emerge above the road was a real 'whoa' moment.

Does anybody have a picture of it, perchance?
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 03:44 AM   #2963
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Good to see A30 being completed, thanks for the photos.

That reminds me -- I have seen a very memorable gantry sign right there in Bad Oeynhausen. Most probably, it was on the eastbound route E30 through the city, just where the traffic has successfully navigated through the streets and is ready to rejoin A30.

I remember that the sign was just above the autobahn sliproad; it was yellow, it was HUGE and there probably wasn't a lot of text on it - but the lettering was also HUGE. Seeing it emerge above the road was a real 'whoa' moment.

Does anybody have a picture of it, perchance?
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 08:43 PM   #2964
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Exactly, thanks!
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 05:44 PM   #2965
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In anticipation of the A39 construction between Lüneburg and Wolfsburg, the A250 has been renumbered A39 today!

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Old November 4th, 2010, 01:01 AM   #2966
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German will get it's first Dutch-style Aquaduct:


It will be here under the Schwinge river near the town of Stade as a part of the new A26. The A26 will connect the new A20 Elbtunnel, A7 and the harbour of Hamburg.

Some plans are available here
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Old November 4th, 2010, 01:30 AM   #2967
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is A395 the longest 3-digit motorway in D?
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Old November 4th, 2010, 01:47 AM   #2968
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@ABRob: Isn't this an aquaduct?

Or maybe you mean an aquaduct with an Autobahn underneath the river?
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Old November 4th, 2010, 02:25 AM   #2969
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is A395 the longest 3-digit motorway in D?
No, A661 is longer:
http://www.autobahn-online.de/phorum...521#msg-132521

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@ABRob: Isn't this an aquaduct?
That's a channel over a road and not a road 'diving' under a channel/river like the Dutch Aquaducts.
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Old November 4th, 2010, 02:34 AM   #2970
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Old November 4th, 2010, 03:22 PM   #2971
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That's a channel over a road and not a road 'diving' under a channel/river like the Dutch Aquaducts.
It's a canal rather than a channel.
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Old November 5th, 2010, 07:19 PM   #2972
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Nice picture of the Ostwestfalendamm in Bielefeld.

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Old November 16th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #2973
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A missing link in the B67 2+1 road has been opened today, a 9.7 km section between Rhede and Borken, providing a high-standard route between A3 and A31 south of the Dutch border. A future extension to the A43 near Dülmen is planned.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 05:03 AM   #2974
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2 Richtungsfahrbahn vs. 2-streifiger neubau

I downloaded a pdf with a map and a table showing the current construction activity on the German autobahn network from the German Ministry of Transport & Construction. http://www.bmvbs.de/cae/servlet/cont...rrierefrei.pdf

I’m a little puzzled by the terms used to describe the type of roads that are being built as listed in the “Neubau” section.

Obviously “4-streifig neubau” means that it is a dual carriageway with two lanes in each direction -> 2x2 being built. Same goes for “6-streifig neubau” dual carriageway with three lanes in each direction-> 2x3 under construction.
What about “2 Richtungsfahrbahn” and “2-streifiger neubau”??

An autobahn should have at least two fahrbahnen (carriageways) with two fahrstreifen (lanes) in each direction.

So does the “2 Richtungsfahrbahn” mean that they are building only one carriageway with one lane in each direction of travel? How can it be an autobahn then? Shouldn’t it be classified as a Schnellstraße or a Bundestraße.

What is “2 steifiger naubau” in that case? A dual carriageway with one lane in each direction doesn’t make sense. Are they adding a second carriageway where there is currently only one carriageway, to make it dual carriageway with two lanes in each direction? If that is the case shouldn't that be Erweiterung and not Neubau.

I hope that maybe ChrisZwolle or somebody else knowledgeable with German autobahn could help explain the “2 Richtungsfahrbahn” and “2-streifiger neubau” terminology.


P.S. the BMVBS document from January of 2010 doesn't show any plans for BAB 43 extension, even under "Weiterer Bedarf mit Planungsrecht" category. Chris is there another government website that has more up to date info?
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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:01 AM   #2975
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2. Richtungsfahrbahn means "second carriageway", meaning the first one was built earlier and the second one was just added.
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Old November 19th, 2010, 08:49 PM   #2976
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"4/6-streifiger Neubau" literally means construction of a new road with 4/6 lanes but not necessarily two carriageways (although that is probably the rule and always the case if we talk about motorways).
"Zweistreifiger Neubau" is the new construction of a new 1x1 road.

A "Richtungsfahrbahn" is a carriageway (A motorway has 2 "Richtungsfahrbahnen").
Adding a second one doesn't mean upgrating from one to two lanes but adding a second carriageway in my opinion. That is the case when a normal 1x1 road is upgrated to a (yellow) motorway: They add a second carriageway and use the existing 1x1 road as the other one.
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Old November 21st, 2010, 08:24 PM   #2977
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A missing link in the B67 2+1 road has been opened today, a 9.7 km section between Rhede and Borken, providing a high-standard route between A3 and A31 south of the Dutch border. A future extension to the A43 near Dülmen is planned.

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/9079/b67.png
I made a video of this section today.

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Old November 22nd, 2010, 09:21 PM   #2978
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 09:41 PM   #2979
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Nice road and report! I like these 2+1 grade-separated roads. Contunious drive + many overtaking possibilities, and it's cheaper than a motorway.
In Germany the expressway sing has any special meaning (like raised speed limits, etc.) or only means that it's a higher quality road, that has grade-separated interchanges and bypassing inhabited areas?
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 12:39 AM   #2980
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the expressway sign in Germany means that the road is for motor vehicles only, speed limit is still 100 km/h as on any other road outside settlements. German speed limits are very simple:
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