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Old October 3rd, 2007, 07:01 PM   #281
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5 km's downhilll with 6% is alot I admit. But I bet that's not the case on that german motorway.
But when that's the case, it's up to the truck drivers to take care of their brakes(depending on their load, etc...) ... I don't think that setting a really low speed limit is the solution.
Also, in those downhill there are usually emergency exits, to bge used by vehicles who lost their brakes. You've probably seen some of those already.

As for upphill, trucks go as fast as they can... unfortunatly, on those 6% upphill, some can't go any faster than 40. Still it's not as all vehicles tend to go slower upphill. Besides, it's much easier to brake when it's upphill than downhill.
That's what the lower gears are for. Let cylinder compression in the engine slow you down and allow you to maintain control - the waste heat is easily and safely dissipated through the radiator (in an automatic transmission car, those are the 'L1', 'L2', etc settings).

Also, inside the Eisenhower Tunnel (I-70 in Colorado, USA - the highest point on the I-system), there are weigh-in-motion scales and radars that feed into computer-controlled signs in the tunnel that tells truck/lorry drivers to "GEAR DOWN TO (X speed)", sometimes as slow as (about 20 km/h), this in order to safely descend the very loooooong 6% grades on either end of it. There are also emergency escape ramps in case that fails.

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 07:15 PM   #282
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A1 Cloppenburg - Bremen - Buchholzer Dreieck (Hamburg)

[IMG]http://i22.************/2yyyzxx.jpg[/IMG]

This serie starts halfway between Osnabrück and Bremen, and goes by Bremen, a large port city of 600.000 inhabitants. The A1 near Bremen has 2x3 lanes, and some very old signs can be seen. It has an automated traffic control over 43 kilometers. After Bremen, we head on to Hamburg, where the A1 comes extremely busy, being "stockender Verkehr" (Queueing traffic) over much of the 80km between the two cities.

To the pictures (114 pics)
Interesting as always!



But I do wonder how well that bus in image #33 would travel into primarily English-speaking areas....











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Old October 3rd, 2007, 08:14 PM   #283
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******!

Did you know there was a town in Austria (Carinthia) called *******? Brits keep stealing the town-limit sign.

Nice pictures, and... crazy traffic.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 09:07 PM   #284
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Heheh
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 09:49 PM   #285
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Ze germans are dirty.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 10:14 PM   #286
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How the hell do you get that name? And they put it on all their buses.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 10:20 PM   #287
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this remains me to a truck that i saw on a dutch autosnelweg near venlo



Damen Transport means sth like "carriage of ladies" in german. did i found out some dutch human trafficking with ladies?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 10:24 PM   #288
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Damen Transport means sth like "carriage of ladies" in german. did i found out some dutch human trafficking with ladies?
People usually dont notice what is in front of their noses...maybe they're fooling the police this way
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 10:33 PM   #289
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Hmmm, Damen is not a usual Dutch word...
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 11:00 PM   #290
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I googled for it and found out that it's the name of the owner or founder. Wim Damen. But the funny thing again is, that they carriage livestock in reality (Veetransport)...(oh, and Helden on the blue sign means "heroes" in german. so this truck brings the ladies to the heroes? )

and to get to the topic, some older pics I made in april:

A5 near Frankfurt



and A648 again


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Old October 3rd, 2007, 11:29 PM   #291
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A7 Hamburg - Flensburg
A7 Dreieck Hamburg-Südwest - Hamburg - Neumünster - Rendsburg - Schleswig - Flensburg - Grenzübergang Ellund (DK)

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Time to show some pics from the far north of Germany. We start from the A261 connection, through the harbor of Hamburg, where the container ships almost unload their containers on the emergency lanes. Through the Elbetunnel we ride through the 2nd city of Germany, and it stays busy until most Kiel traffic exits at interchange Bordesholm. There was a 30km queue in the opposite direction; from Hensted-Ulzburg until the Elbetunnel. We cross the Nord-Ostseekanal near Rendsburg, with high electricity pylons next to it. From there, we travel all the way to the Danish border.

A7 Hamburg - Flensburg: 116 pics
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 11:48 PM   #292
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how many lanes has the elbtunnel? 2+2+2+2?

i think i would find it rather boring to drive through northern germany as it is all so flat there

the wechselwegweiser (variable signs) there look much better than the ones in munich (A99)

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Old October 4th, 2007, 11:55 AM   #293
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Did we have that already?

New A113 in Berlin:

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Old October 4th, 2007, 12:15 PM   #294
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Man, this A113 looks like a typical urban freeway in the USA. Concrete pavement, soundproof wall, crash barrier and even the entrance ramp - all look too much American too me
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Old October 4th, 2007, 12:37 PM   #295
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500m in 10km... sounds familiar... Just try spanish A-15 going from S. Sebastian to Pamplona... you climg about 500m roughly in a 10km's stretch where the grade is a constant 5% (except in the tunnels, where it drops to some 3% or less).
Yes you're right, the grade of 5% is not extraordinary and I guess you can find examples in Germany as well...

Other example with 7%, the A89 (previously A72) in France, between St Etienne et Clermont-Ferrand:
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg
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http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg

The A51 near Grenoble:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5950/20jf6.jpg

Or the A75 with 7,5%:
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...lescalette.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...leette4JPG.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...escalette5.jpg

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Old October 4th, 2007, 01:40 PM   #296
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This is a german thread, not a French one.

That A113 in Berlin looks awesome; completely new and 6 lanes through urban area. What's the limit there? 100?

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oh, and Helden on the blue sign means "heroes" in german. so this truck brings the ladies to the heroes?
Helden also means "heroes' in Dutch. Btw, did you know about the village near Helden? It's called 'America'.

We're all living in America, ist wunderbar, ist wunderbar
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Old October 4th, 2007, 03:35 PM   #297
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The A113 in Berlin looks awesome. Love the bright concrete.
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Old October 4th, 2007, 04:09 PM   #298
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Did we have that already?

New A113 in Berlin:

this must be the ugliest motorway I have ever seen by far, oh my god and it´s even new, it looks like a 50 years old runway in Albania (oh I forgot, even they have very new blackasphalt well marked runways), so it´s just very ugly and it surely is very unconfortable to drive on.
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[[email protected];15710239]Yes you're right, the grade of 5% is not extraordinary and I guess you can find examples in Germany as well...

Other example with 7%, the A89 (previously A72) in France, between St Etienne et Clermont-Ferrand:
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg
http://wikisara.free.fr/wikisara/ima...040703-JRL.jpg

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This one looks very good though
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Old October 4th, 2007, 04:25 PM   #300
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I'm sure if you're a daily commuter on that french A75 you would love to be if it was something like this A113. At least this Berlin motorway looks very well designed.
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