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Old November 29th, 2010, 10:43 AM   #3001
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Thanks for your help.
I just noticed while staring at the Autobahn map of Germany that Baden-Württemberg is surprisingly short of Autobahns. I mean at least an extension of (well, A96 maybe?) to Kehl/Strasbourg would be not a bad idea.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 01:28 PM   #3002
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Old November 29th, 2010, 04:24 PM   #3003
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Old November 29th, 2010, 06:16 PM   #3004
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Last Friday I was caught in a massive traffic jam on the A8, from just outside Munich to few kilometres before Rosenheim... 2.5 hours to drive 30 km... combination of traffic, snow, and to lorries that had an accident... :O
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Old November 29th, 2010, 09:25 PM   #3005
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I just noticed while staring at the Autobahn map of Germany that Baden-Württemberg is surprisingly short of Autobahns. I mean at least an extension of (well, A96 maybe?) to Kehl/Strasbourg would be not a bad idea.
Original plan for Autobahn network in South Germany, from 1974:
http://www.autobahn-online.de/gesamtnetz74s.gif

A number of the ones marked as planned here have been finished (e.g. A81), but a lot hasn't even been started. A number of the Autobahn plans around Stuttgart have been realized as Gelbe Autobahnen, as e.g. B10, B14, B27, B29.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 09:33 PM   #3006
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You don't see a 90 km/h limit in Germany often.
Dunno, around here (Mannheim area) it's often used as an intermediate limit. Offhand i can remember 90 km/h zones on B44, B38a, B37, B9 here in the area. And not really short ones either, talking a couple km on each, on the B37 e.g. all the way from downtown Ludwigshafen to where it becomes the A650.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 09:34 PM   #3007
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Maybe it's an Rheinland-Pfalz thing, I've only seen 90 limits in RP.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 11:32 PM   #3008
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Maybe it's an Rheinland-Pfalz thing, I've only seen 90 limits in RP.
At least two in Baden-Württemberg:
B44 between Mannheim and Lampertheim (last couple km to border to Hessen)
B38a inside Mannheim (intermittent precursor to 70 km/h zone)

I think i hazily remember some sections of the B39 in BaWü being 90 km/h too, somewhere around Rauenberg/Mühlhausen.

But yeah, it's pretty rare.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 03:54 PM   #3009
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Original plan for Autobahn network in South Germany, from 1974:
http://www.autobahn-online.de/gesamtnetz74s.gif

A number of the ones marked as planned here have been finished (e.g. A81), but a lot hasn't even been started. A number of the Autobahn plans around Stuttgart have been realized as Gelbe Autobahnen, as e.g. B10, B14, B27, B29.
Are they going to finnish all the original plans?
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Old November 30th, 2010, 04:38 PM   #3010
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Well, for the ones in Baden-Württemberg marked as planned in that map...

A61 : built
A81 : built
A89 : built as B30, A-label was scrapped, now again planned to be relabeled A89 after expansion
A96 : built
A98 : still planned to finish building

A80 : replaced by expanded parts of B35, B10, B28*
A83 : replaced by expanded B27
A87 : replaced by expanded B29
A88 : replaced by expanded B312

A45 : scrapped (1979)
A82 : scrapped
A84 : scrapped (80s)
A85 : scrapped
A86 : scrapped (1975), small parts exist e.g. as A864, temporarily also A860

*note: B28 actually with Autobahn signs, B35 prepared for expansion
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Old November 30th, 2010, 04:55 PM   #3011
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So the A80 could happen... Also A90 could happen, if they build the A93 from Regensburg to Rosenburg. I saw the last one still planned on a recent map. A94 could happen, and A91 have parts built as B2 and B17. And Eastern Germany is missing (Obvious... that map is from 1974)
And the northern part of the map?
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Old November 30th, 2010, 05:12 PM   #3012
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Northern half is here: http://www.autobahn-online.de/gesamtnetz74n.gif
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Old November 30th, 2010, 06:41 PM   #3013
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Yes, but Sassnitz is also on an island, however its connected on a bridge to the mainland thats right. So I`ll keep that in mind.
Anyway I think I finally found my answer on Wikipedia: its the beautiful town of Salzwedel which is the farthest from an Autobahn.
A hamlet called Einwinkel is probably the most remote place from a motorway in Germany.

Although some places in northern Rügen are good calls as well. It just depend on what you regard as a motorway.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:40 PM   #3014
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Am planning to be driving from Moenchengladbach to Montpellier in early March next year (one way trip). am planning to hire a car. Is the time of year a good reason to hire a four wheel drive vehicle?

What sort of road conditions might I expect (on autobahns/autoroutes)?
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:45 PM   #3015
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Unless you're caught in a snow storm, most roads in Germany will be clear and normally passable with a 2WD. Winter tires are a necessity though, if there is snow. They don't clear all the back roads or parking areas. A potential trouble spot on your route will be passing through the Eifel or Ardennes (depending on your route to France).
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Old December 1st, 2010, 08:19 PM   #3016
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Incredible traffic congestion in southeastern Germany, on A9 there is 270 kilometers of traffic jam southbound and 311 kilometers of traffic jam northbound, due to snow dunes.

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Old December 2nd, 2010, 11:28 PM   #3017
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So the A80 could happen... Also A90 could happen, if they build the A93 from Regensburg to Rosenburg.
The gap of a93 is under construction as a gelbe Autobahn (B15neu).

One should mention that there fortunately aren't any plans to build A98 in Bavaria (where it isn't needed but would destroy the landscape and heavily affect tourism). In Baden-Württemberg there are plans to build it to Singen (A81). The main problem are differences with Switzerland about the route (it would have to cut through Swiss territory), so its quite uncertain that it will be buildt anytime soon. The stretch north of Lake Constance was buildt as B31n (1x1 Kraftfahrstraße).
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Old December 7th, 2010, 06:34 PM   #3018
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The road widening on A8 from Augsburg to München has been completed today. 2x3 lanes all the way!

http://www.ovb-online.de/nachrichten...g-1038123.html
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Old December 7th, 2010, 09:56 PM   #3019
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The road widening on A8 from Augsburg to München has been completed today. 2x3 lanes all the way!

http://www.ovb-online.de/nachrichten...g-1038123.html
How long til the rest of the A8 is widened to 2x3?
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Old December 7th, 2010, 10:21 PM   #3020
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Well, the Ulm - Augsburg section ought to be completed around 2012. However, the remaining sections between Stuttgart and Ulm will take more time, I'm not sure how much time. Maybe a German forum member can clarify things, I believe there were plans for a toll or PPP solution, but I haven't read much about it in the last 2 years.
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