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Old March 2nd, 2011, 04:02 PM   #3161
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I drove Viborg - Koldin - Hamburg - Bremen - Hannover - Würzburg - Passau - Linz - Wien - Budapest some weeks ago. I twas strange that on A7 in Germany in the section of Niedersachsen Region a speed limit of 80 was signed through dozens of kilometres due to bad surface but after passing the border to Hessen, the 80 limit signs disappeared although the road itself is not any way better than in Niedersachsen :-)
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 06:38 PM   #3162
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Different road authorities.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 04:21 AM   #3163
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Parts of the urban A661 motorway in Frankfurt might be covered (Einhausung) in the near future. This will eliminate noise and pollution from the area, create new park space and new residential developments can be built. Estimated costs are between 100 and 150 mio Euros.





source: http://www.stadtplanungsamt-frankfur...0d8190ca34f19d
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Old March 5th, 2011, 04:28 AM   #3164
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Can I safely assume that any plans to connect the A66 through that area are now history?

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Old March 5th, 2011, 04:50 AM   #3165
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Can I safely assume that any plans to connect the A66 through that area are now history?

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No not at all. The connection of A661 and A66 goes ahead as planed.

The connection will be before the covering (Einhausung).


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Old March 5th, 2011, 08:47 AM   #3166
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I was mainly thinking about the connection to the part of the A66 to the west. Examining Google aerial images of that area shows a well-defined clear ROW over much of its likely routing.

It looks like a glaring gap in the area's transport network, too.

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Old March 5th, 2011, 09:02 AM   #3167
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Only know of the direct connection between A661 and A66 (red line). Not sure about the remaining route (blue line). Motorway construction in urban areas is not so popular anymore so I doubt we will see that anytime soon. It would require one massive tunnel.

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Old March 5th, 2011, 11:55 AM   #3168
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The LKW-maut brings enough additional money to pay for these luxury measures.

Before the LKW-maut, Germany was part of the eurovignette toll system, which is like € 8 per day with unlimited mileage. Right now trucks already exceed that if they drive more than 30 kilometers in Germany. So the additional funding is HUGE.
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Old March 5th, 2011, 08:53 PM   #3169
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Only know of the direct connection between A661 and A66 (red line). Not sure about the remaining route (blue line). Motorway construction in urban areas is not so popular anymore so I doubt we will see that anytime soon. It would require one massive tunnel.

In the above image, A66(east) will connect on the end of the curve at the south end of the shown roadworks while from what I can tell, A66(west) would connect with a 'Y' interchange right where the 'A661' shield is on that image. You can trace a clear ROW from there westward to where it meets that major east-west street.

Yes, it likely would require some interesting tunneling.

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Old March 10th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #3170
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Quick question, does anyone know how often road markings are re-painted for the Autobahn? Seems like with wider markings and the use of plastic markings, they can hold up for longer than the ones in the U.S.

Side note: Washington State repaints white markings every year, and yellow markings every two years.
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Old March 12th, 2011, 10:53 PM   #3171
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Roßfeldhöhenringstraße

A panoramic toll road near Berchtesgaden in extreme southeastern Germany.











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Old March 13th, 2011, 10:41 AM   #3172
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Wow... I'm planning to go there in few weeks
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Old March 13th, 2011, 04:24 PM   #3173
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The view is astonishing, but is that wooden guard-rails? Is it safe?
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Old March 13th, 2011, 04:31 PM   #3174
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It's a panoramic route with no function for traffic. There are no trucks and most cars will travel at relatively low speeds. It is a ring road, and serves no towns or other routes. It is also a private toll road.
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Old March 13th, 2011, 05:43 PM   #3175
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It's a panoramic route with no function for traffic. There are no trucks and most cars will travel at relatively low speeds. It is a ring road, and serves no towns or other routes. It is also a private toll road.

Yes, it is really something very special in Germany - private tolled road and just at the Austrian border. The fact is that there are more attracting places with great countryside in the region of Berchtesgaden (well, in spite of the fact that it is not so easy to talk about the history of those places) - so called Eagle Nest and its road from Obersalzberg (but usually closed till May!!!), Koenigsee Lake and the whole National Park there etc. IMO, the only trip - Berchtesgaden - Obersalzberg - Hallein/Austria is definitely very attracting. The key condition there might be the good weather....
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Old March 13th, 2011, 09:43 PM   #3176
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Toll in Germany? Never heard of that.
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There are also two toll tunnels in Northern Germany;

* Herrentunnel in Lübeck (B75)
* Warnowtunnel in Rostock (B105)
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Old March 13th, 2011, 10:32 PM   #3178
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There are also two toll tunnels in Northern Germany;

* Herrentunnel in Lübeck (B75)
* Warnowtunnel in Rostock (B105)
i didn't know for Herrentunnel. is that all, or there are some more Mautstations in Germany?
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The view is astonishing, but is that wooden guard-rails? Is it safe?
It's very likely that the guard-rails are actually made of steel but covered with wood not to ruin the atmosphere. This type of guard-rail has been used in Estonia at least once and it isn't less safe than ordninary guard-rails. One example that I found on the web: http://barriersafety.ie/products/mix...eel-guardrail/ .
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Old March 14th, 2011, 08:09 AM   #3180
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Looks like a German took a drive on the Blue Ridge Parkway and got some ideas...

Looks like they'll serve pretty much the same purpose, except the Blue Ridge Parkway isn't a ring road, it is mostly toll-free (it continues past its northern end as Skyline Drive through the Shenandoah National Park, with tolls), and it is maintained by the National Park Service. It also has a spur to the west to allow access to Roanoke.

As for the wooden guardrails, you should be glad that they're actually that tall. On the BRP they're about 20cm tall.
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