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Old August 23rd, 2011, 09:15 PM   #3501
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Maybe they don't want to add more transit to the Stuttgart bypass.
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Old August 23rd, 2011, 09:47 PM   #3502
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I don't care. I use A5 to Karlsruhe and then A8, seeing that it's finished. The shite starts after Stuttgart, but my answer for Munich is always A3, A9 now anyway.
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Old August 24th, 2011, 09:18 PM   #3503
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A6 AK Weinsberg-Viernheimer Dreieck

At Autobahnkreuz Weinsberg the main route changes from A81 to A6. To stay on the A81 you need to exit (TOTSO). The A6 was a bit less comfortable drive than the A81 due to some roadworks and 2×2 sections, but still it's a nice ride. We stayed on the A6 until the Viernheimer Dreieck, just north of Mannheim. Here the main route continues as the A67 towards Frankfurt am Main and the A6 exits the motorway and heads straight west, towards Saarbrücken (another TOTSO).

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Old August 24th, 2011, 09:22 PM   #3504
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Thank you for the great set of pics Timon.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 03:22 AM   #3505
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why are A5 and A67 running in parallel? is there need for 2 motorways?
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Old August 25th, 2011, 10:57 AM   #3506
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why are A5 and A67 running in parallel? is there need for 2 motorways?
The A67 is older. It was originally built this way to directly connect Rhine-Main and Mannheim in the 30s (and was back then numbered A5). This route bypasses several larger towns on the Bergstraße though, so they built the current A5 route in the 60s and switched the number over there.

Both routes regularly operate at capacity, so they're both definitely needed.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 12:11 PM   #3507
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If you're coming from Saarbruecken, heading towards Heilbronn, they signpost A6 all the way. Coming back they divert you off the A6, onto the A61 and back onto the A6 again, bypassing Mannheim.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 11:05 PM   #3508
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A67 Viernheimer Dreieck-AD Mönchhof

After the A6 continues north into the A67, while the A6 heads straight west. The A67 is a short motorway, I've covered entirely in northbound direction. At the Mönchhof-Dreieck, just west of Frankfurt am Main, the A67 ends in the A3. Before the Darmstädter Kreuz the road is partly 2×3, partly 2×2. After it it's just 2×2. It wasn't really busy, probably because of the parallel running A5. All combined this was also quite a pleasant road to drive. A map:

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Old August 26th, 2011, 01:34 AM   #3509
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Timon, would it not be better to just dump all your photos here? I would certainly enjoy scrolling through all that autobahn bliss.
Anyway, great photos. I really miss driving in Germany. It's one month to go and I'll be raging in Bavaria! It's like waiting to go to the driving heaven that Germany is.
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Old August 26th, 2011, 09:07 AM   #3510
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It's one month to go and I'll be raging in Bavaria! It's like waiting to go to the driving heaven that Germany is.
Don't expect too much... in Bayern there are good roads and bad roads, like everywhere else
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Old August 26th, 2011, 09:36 AM   #3511
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Is being stuck in traffic in Germany like being in heaven? My heaven is driving in France.
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Old August 26th, 2011, 11:27 AM   #3512
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Timon, would it not be better to just dump all your photos here? I would certainly enjoy scrolling through all that autobahn bliss.
Anyway, great photos. I really miss driving in Germany. It's one month to go and I'll be raging in Bavaria! It's like waiting to go to the driving heaven that Germany is.
Thanks I have one more batch of pics coming up, I will post them the same way as the others. After that I might post a summary of the whole trip with the pics directly in SSC
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Don't expect too much... in Bayern there are good roads and bad roads, like everywhere else
What do you mean? I've been to various parts of Germany about 7-8 times by now and I am well aware what to expect.
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Old August 26th, 2011, 02:10 PM   #3514
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Perhaps a stupid question, but is there a list of all planned, approved and u/c projects regarding the German Autobahn?
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Old August 26th, 2011, 02:35 PM   #3515
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Perhaps a stupid question, but is there a list of all planned, approved and u/c projects regarding the German Autobahn?
I know that I saw this once on wegenwiki.nl, but I can't find it right now.
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I know that I saw this once on wegenwiki.nl, but I can't find it right now.
Thanks for the link, I have found it. It's even in my native language!
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Old August 26th, 2011, 03:04 PM   #3517
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Google Translate is helpful for all whose native language isn't Dutch.
Just go to http://translate.google.com/ and put http://www.wegenwiki.nl in the box, set the source language to Dutch and choose your own language to translate to
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If you're coming from Saarbruecken, heading towards Heilbronn, they signpost A6 all the way. Coming back they divert you off the A6, onto the A61 and back onto the A6 again, bypassing Mannheim.
That's just the loadbalancing on the A6/A61 outer motorway ring around Mannheim/Ludwigshafen.
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Old August 26th, 2011, 04:17 PM   #3519
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A3 AD Mönchhof-AD Köln-Heumar

This is the last batch of pics from my trip. After the A67 we took the A3 towards the Ruhrgebiet. Most Dutch people know this route very well. It's not my favourite road, mostly due to long traffic jams I've encountered here in the past. Luckily it wasn't very busy and most of the route is 2×3. The surroundings are also quite nice. The HSL Köln-Frankfurt(Main) runs parallel to the A3 for quite a while. On my way south I went by train but from the ICE you can't see as much of the A3 as I had hoped for. Near Köln I've visited some friends and the next day we drove back to the Netherlands. Unfortunately it was raining badly that day, so I didn't make any pics. Map of the route:

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Old August 26th, 2011, 10:21 PM   #3520
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Nice set, Timon! I like the valley views you got so many times. The A3 crosses many tributaries of the Rhine, which flow from the Sauerland or Westerwald into the Rhine. I think the Lahn is the most important one in this area.

Surprisingly, it's been years since I drove A3 south of Köln. I usually go via A44-A7 via Kassel to avoid the Aschaffenburg - Würzburg construction site.
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