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Old September 5th, 2011, 09:40 PM   #3581
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The environmental zones are areas within cities where every car requires a sticker that indicates its environmental class (red, yellow and green). Some cities prohibited red or even yellow stickered vehicles. For instance, my 2004 Renault has a yellow sticker (due to the lack of a particle filter). An ADAC (the German motorist association) study found out these environmental zones have close to no effect at all. Some even argue it's illegal because it outlaws street-legal vehicles with annually OK'd emission standards. No tolls are required for entering these zones.
Funny this topic just came up here, I just posted a question about it in the Roadside Rest Area thread. I'm coming to Europe and will be renting a car in Amsterdam but driving to Germany, so I'll need to obtain the sticker, but that requires a copy of the car registration which I was unsure if I would have in a rental car. If not, I can't get the sticker and will have to risk getting fines, since all my German hotels are within the zones, I think.

I don't mind paying the €15 for the sticker so much, it's a lot better than paying 40 chf for an annual Swiss autobahn vignette that I'll only use for a few days!
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Old September 6th, 2011, 04:40 AM   #3582
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I just did some reading on those "low emision zones" in Germany. This is just utterly mad and stupid!
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Old September 6th, 2011, 05:10 AM   #3583
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Btw, I have read that in Munich's case the low emission zone is bordered by Mitlerer ring. The Mitlerer Ring itself is not inside the zone. Does that mean I can park the car on the Mitlerer Ring itself where it has dedicated areas for parking like this one?
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Old September 6th, 2011, 05:13 PM   #3584
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that requires a copy of the car registration which I was unsure if I would have in a rental car.
Since you are legally required to carry Part B of the registration papers (the "Fahrzeugschein" - or the equivalent papers for foreign cars) with you when driving a car in Germany you would have to have those with the rental too.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 05:15 PM   #3585
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Does that mean I can park the car on the Mitlerer Ring itself where it has dedicated areas for parking like this one?
Strictly read you can only park on the "outer side" of the ring. In practice you can park wherever you want as long as you did not drive by a Umweltzone sign beforehand.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 06:26 PM   #3586
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I quite funny with those stickers. Now on my windscreen I have:
- yellow German Umweltzone (diesel '06)
- silver shining Polish registration sticker
- silver Swiss sticker
- Czech motorway vignette
- Austrian vignette
- Slovak vignette
and... perhaps i will put another 2 this year
Still German one is the biggest

Hope to have still some place to see through my windscreen
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Old September 6th, 2011, 06:31 PM   #3587
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I quite funny with those stickers. Now on my windscreen I have:
- yellow German Umweltzone (diesel '06)
- silver shining Polish registration sticker
- silver Swiss sticker
- Czech motorway vignette
- Austrian vignette
- Slovak vignette
and... perhaps i will put another 2 this year
Still German one is the biggest

Hope to have still some place to see through my windscreen
My windscreen looks like this:


Slovenian and Austrian vignettes. How does your look like?

PS: I've once seen a car with so many stickers that half of the passenger view was blocked
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Old September 6th, 2011, 07:58 PM   #3588
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Hey lets open a topic for those windshield pictures, i will contribute there, i bet this will quite funny
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Old September 6th, 2011, 09:55 PM   #3589
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As done:

European Windscreen's stickers

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Old September 7th, 2011, 05:31 PM   #3590
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So, I bought an ADAC "MaxiAtlas" - which is fabulous, if not cheap.
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I've got the same atlas. A bit unhandy to use while driving though, it's simply too big. It won't even fit on the passenger seat if fold out to two pages.
I recommend the ADAC ReiseAtlas for 10 EUR next time. It's the same map but in A4 (scale 1:200,000) and not in A3 (scale 1:150,000).
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Old September 7th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #3591
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A17 Dresden - Czech Border

This video covers the entire A17 southbound from the A4 near Dresden to the Czech border at Bad Gottleuba.

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Old September 7th, 2011, 10:58 PM   #3592
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Can someone please explain the German sticker to me?
I know Autobahns are not tolled, but I didn't exactly understand the stickers (I heard something regarding Eco). We didn't get one when traveling to Germany.
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Old September 7th, 2011, 11:01 PM   #3593
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There has been a HUGE update in Google Earth imagery concerning Germany. Nearly all areas that previously had outdated (8+ year old imagery) are now updated, mostly with 2008 - 2009 imagery. An incredible improvement that was needed for a long time. It may not be in Google Maps yet, as they usually update several days later than Google Earth.
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Old September 8th, 2011, 01:25 AM   #3594
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Can someone please explain the German sticker to me?
I know Autobahns are not tolled, but I didn't exactly understand the stickers (I heard something regarding Eco). We didn't get one when traveling to Germany.
Its only for German cars I think, certain polluting ones aren't allowed in certain areas
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Old September 8th, 2011, 01:39 AM   #3595
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Its only for German cars I think, certain polluting ones aren't allowed in certain areas
It's for all cars entering dedicated 'green zones' which are central city areas of most larger German cities.
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Old September 8th, 2011, 02:04 AM   #3596
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Tomorrow, 6 kilometers of A94 will be opened to traffic east of München. It's the short section between Forstinning and Pastetten. g.spinoza may want to check it out
I have driven there a few days ago, but didn't have a camera with me.
The first kilometer after Forstinning has a concrete surface (very bright) and then changes to asphalt, which is very dark. Nice contrast.
But for a brandnew surface the asphalt is disappointingly bumpy.
The central barrier is made of concrete.
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Old September 8th, 2011, 05:48 AM   #3597
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A17 Dresden - Czech Border

This video covers the entire A17 southbound from the A4 near Dresden to the Czech border at Bad Gottleuba.

nice drive, good freeway music...pleasant scenery.
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What's the tolerance rate for speeding in Germany?
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Old September 8th, 2011, 10:30 AM   #3599
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Its only for German cars I think, certain polluting ones aren't allowed in certain areas
No, foreign cars, too, need the colored sticker if they want to drive into city centers (environmental zones), but don't need it if only using motorways, and roads outside of the zones.
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I know, when we were this summer in Germany, we also drove through some cities, but we didn't buy any sticker. Just for my info, where are the stickers to be found (I guess gas stations), and how do you know you enter an environmental zone.
So all people that live in cities, have these stickers on their car?
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