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Old February 27th, 2012, 02:18 PM   #3821
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Hi, I need some help. I'm going from Wroclaw to Brussels, I plan to go the route A4, A14, A38, A7, A44. Which route should I choose from Dortmund to Brussels to avoid traffic jams on a Friday afternoon?
From Wroclaw I usually use A38 and Dortmund which ultimatley takes me to Venlo, Antwerp and Calais. If you're going to Brussels, you might as well stick with the A4 (E40) all the way. (Dresden, Erfurt, Giessen, Olpe, Köln, Aachen - then Liege-Brussels or Heerlen-Brussels. Traffic wise, and more comfort I normally use Aachen, Heerlen, Leuven.

If you are determined to go via Dortmund, then stick with A1 (Dortmund-Oberhausen). A40 would be a huge mistake, due to high volumes of traffic and roadworks.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 02:46 PM   #3822
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Thanks, but what do you think about A44 then A1 and A46 to Dusseldorf, a57 and a52 to Roermond?
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Old February 27th, 2012, 02:52 PM   #3823
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No, you're going to Brussels, Belgium. Not Netherlands.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 03:23 AM   #3824
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No hinderance: A 52 > N 280 to Roermond > A 73 > A 2 to Maastricht > A 76 > E 314 to Genk / Leuven > E 40 to Brussels.

Avoids the Aachen Region where construction is going on at the Kreuz Aachen Junctio (A 4 / A 44 / A 544)
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Old February 28th, 2012, 01:07 PM   #3825
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If you are determined to go via Dortmund, then stick with A1 (Dortmund-Oberhausen). A40 would be a huge mistake, due to high volumes of traffic and roadworks.
It's Köln rather then Oberhausen.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 10:04 AM   #3826
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It's Köln rather then Oberhausen.
No, I meant A2 Dortmund Oberhausen, where it changes into the A3. From there you can either carry on to Köln, or jump onto the A40 towards Venlo.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 12:00 PM   #3827
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Hi, I need some help. I'm going from Wroclaw to Brussels, I plan to go the route A4, A14, A38, A7, A44. Which route should I choose from Dortmund to Brussels to avoid traffic jams on a Friday afternoon?
To avoid traffic jams on a Friday afternoon? Well, avoid Dortmund!

The Ruhr area is a huge traffic jam on Friday afternoons.
I'd suggest A4 - A4 - Gießen - Limburg - Koblenz - A61 - A4 - Aachen - ...
There are roadworks on the Kreuz Aachen Junction, but the jams are mostly west->east.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 11:05 AM   #3828
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The reconstruction of the motorway interchange "Dreieck Braunschweig-Südwest" is almost completed. A39 and A391 intersect here.

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Old March 1st, 2012, 11:21 AM   #3829
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Wow... a lot of land use indeed.

Do you know anything about the dreieck between A9 and A92 - Munich Airport? I think I rememeber sings stating it should be complete by last Christmas..

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Old March 1st, 2012, 08:39 PM   #3830
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It's the first steep increase in traffic fatalities in 20 years and the earlier increase likely has to do with the reunification.

It's worth mentioning that a lot of this has to do with how much safer cars have become today with much much stronger and heavier body shells, multiple air-bags and safety devices.

American fatalities have shown a similar decline despite having all of the above laws already.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 09:41 PM   #3831
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The reconstruction of the motorway interchange "Dreieck Braunschweig-Südwest" is almost completed. A39 and A391 intersect here.
There was some photos from this interchange before the reconstruction. The builders made good job
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 12:12 AM   #3832
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It's worth mentioning that a lot of this has to do with how much safer cars have become today with much much stronger and heavier body shells.
Weight itself doesn't add or subtract safety. The secret is deformability upon impact and shock absortion. That is why a Smart 2012 is safer than a 1970 Dodge.
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 06:30 AM   #3833
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Wow... a lot of land use indeed.

Do you know anything about the dreieck between A9 and A92 - Munich Airport? I think I rememeber sings stating it should be complete by last Christmas..
You mean the overfly? http://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/...f02e74b95.html

Video from Jan 11
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 09:38 AM   #3834
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So it's not complete yet, as of last January.
Thanks for the video, though. Section Garching Nord - München is the single piece of motorway I drove more often on. Seeing that made me nostalgic

EDIT: Now I realize that video is from January 2011. So maybe after all it could be complete now.

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Old March 2nd, 2012, 10:43 AM   #3835
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It is completed. I drove on A92 in mid of january '12.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 02:18 PM   #3836
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It has been completed September 2011 already. There are still some minor works unfinished on that junction but not on the overfly itself.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 11:16 PM   #3837
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I am planning a trip for Eastern period, from Ingolstadt to Wil, St. Gallen, Switzerland.
What route do you suggest to me (depending on traffic, scenary, time)?
Maybe where to stop on the way for something special?
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Old March 4th, 2012, 11:28 PM   #3838
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Well the direct route A9-A92-A99-A96 is the best option. On this route Lindau is worth a visit.

But if you can afford a 20-km detour I advise you to take B16-B25 to Nördlingen, which is very nice and relatively free from tourist crowd, then A7 south to Ulm which is also lovely.

EDIT: If you saw the movie "Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory" (old one, not Tim Burton's crap), you saw Nördlingen from above in the final scenes. Worth a visit to the tower, from which you can appreciate the boundary of the meteor crater Nördlingen is placed in.

EDIT2: From Lindau to Bregenz it is very possible you'll find long queues, but there aren't other options, unless you want to circle the lake and get to Wil from Konstanz.

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Old March 4th, 2012, 11:45 PM   #3839
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Thanks spinoza .
I think I can visit Nördlingen another time, maybe in a weekend, thanks for the tip.
I also asked on the Austrian thread, what the best option through Austria would be, to take the Autobahn, or maybe drive along the Bodensee.
The option through Konstanz is also worth considering, if the queues are long, and could be something different, since, I thought to visit Liechtenstein maybe on the return to DE.
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Old March 4th, 2012, 11:55 PM   #3840
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I went to Liechtenstein in a trip similar to yours but I don't think it is worth visiting. I went there just to be able to say "I went to Liecthenstein"

Around Lindau I don't think you should drive on Bundes/Landstraßen because you'll have to drive inside Bregenz. Stick to the motorway, perhaps there won't be too many drivers. I drove there in August, so possibly that's why I found there half the population of the world

Konstanz is nice to visit, and the road around the lake is nice: not gorgeous, but nice.
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