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Old July 8th, 2012, 08:54 PM   #4221
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It wouldn't change much, the existing road will pretty much be doubled, but no new alignments.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #4222
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On top of that, the new route may have major strategic importance, but I do not expect such large AADT that you can speak of major environmental impact. As the main natural asset of the island is its coast, the duplication of a route straight through the middle of the isle is not too shocking either. If anything, the view of the new bridge from the coast (as opposed to the A1 extension) might distract one or two visitors.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 07:53 PM   #4223
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There is nothing odd about this decision. 13'400 vehicles cross the Fehmarn sound bridge each day. There is nothing to worry about. The existing 2-lane-road handles this traffic volume very well.
There is, since a one-lane bridge connecting two two-lane roads is nothing short of stupid (and dangerous).
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Old July 10th, 2012, 02:19 PM   #4224
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I can't imagine it being dangerous.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:18 PM   #4225
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I can't imagine it being dangerous.
Come to A14 at Rimini, where 3 lanes become 2, and you'll see how lane reduction can be dangerous.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:42 PM   #4226
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We are talking about a tiny little island in Germany, with little traffic. There are lane closures all over Europe. Depending where you are, and if traffic volumes reduces significantly, then there is no reason to have an extra lane. As for Fehmarn: they have recently extended the A1 a little further, but traffic volumes after Lubeck is so low, that the only benefit that has come out of it, that we can drive a little faster. Going the other way, an extra lane helps for the traffic coming off the ferry to spread a bit better.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #4227
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Annual average traffic volumes will likely rise to about 20.000 vehicles per day if the Fehmarnbelt Tunnel is constructed. However, summer volumes are likely higher, and the Fehmarnsund Bridge may become a seasonal bottleneck.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #4228
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When is the tunnel going to be finished?
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:54 PM   #4229
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As for Fehmarn: they have recently extended the A1 a little further, but traffic volumes after Lubeck is so low, that the only benefit that has come out of it, that we can drive a little faster. Going the other way, an extra lane helps for the traffic coming off the ferry to spread a bit better.
If the traffic is so low why are they building a motorway? Either you build a motorway all the way or you don't build it at all.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 04:06 PM   #4230
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When is the tunnel going to be finished?
2021. Construction will begin in a few years. The project was delayed due to procedural difficulties on the German side, the Danes originally planned to complete the tunnel by 2018.

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If the traffic is so low why are they building a motorway? Either you build a motorway all the way or you don't build it at all.
It's a part of a motorway corridor from Hamburg to København, so it makes sense to complete it as a continuous motorway, just like any other motorway in Europe. The tunnel or bridge is rather expensive and would have needed two tubes for road traffic anyway, so it makes sense to do it right at once, and provide a four-lane facility. 20.000 vehicles per day may be low for a motorway, but it's loaded on a two-lane highway. I prefer to make the short Fehmarnsund Bridge four lanes as well, but it's not the end of the world. You'll never know what may happen after 10 years.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 04:17 PM   #4231
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This is what I was about to say, and anything that help things to go a bit faster is a bonus. There are no traffic problems there, and it is a nice ride up to Puttgarden.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:15 PM   #4232
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If the bridge turns out to be a bottleneck in practice, then there will be pressure to replace it with a 2x2 bridge (or to add another 2-lane bridge).
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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:32 PM   #4233
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We cross that bridge when it comes to it.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:35 PM   #4234
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A29 in France has 2 sections of 2x1 lanes over valley bridges between Rouen and Alencon.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #4235
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That's A28. But the volumes there are lower than on future 2x2 B207, only about 6.000 vehicles per day with no real seasonal peaks like elsewhere in France.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:58 PM   #4236
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That's A28. But the volumes there are lower than on future 2x2 B207, only about 6.000 vehicles per day with no real seasonal peaks like elsewhere in France.
Sorry yes, A28. A gift from heaven for being able to drive to Bordeaux, avoiding Paris. And no traffic at all on that road.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 06:52 PM   #4237
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We cross that bridge when it comes to it.
Groan.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 08:54 PM   #4238
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If the traffic is so low why are they building a motorway? Either you build a motorway all the way or you don't build it at all.
Denmark along with Sweden wants to build a motorway. Germany doesn't. Hence the rather different approach to this sea crossing.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #4239
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Hi fellows! I will be driving this week from Solothurn, CH to Wrocław, PL thru Germany. GMaps reccomends 3 similar ways. Which should i choose?
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Hi fellows! I will be driving this week from Solothurn, CH to Wrocław, PL thru Germany. GMaps reccomends 3 similar ways. Which should i choose?
Take the route via St Gallen.
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