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Old October 30th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #4461
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Used the new link A61 with the Dutch A73 for the first time. Nice little note: because the A61 is a little bit longer now before the Dutch border, the distance markers on the side of the road are being recounted in minus: 0.5, 0.0, -0.5, -0.0... Saves replacing all the poles I suppose.

From Austria I used A93, A8, A99 and A3. Only two notable major roads works on that route: A93 between Kufstein and Rosenheim 3 sets of roadworks, from which two are resurfacing works, and the other one they are doing repairs on the bridge that forms the border crossing between Germany and Austria. Judging by the German road signs on both sides of the border, the Germans are in charge of the works being carried out. Other works are the ongoing roadworks on A3 at Aschaffenburg. All works at Würzburg have now been cleared, and with a new stretch of 4 lanes, it looks very impressive indeed. I prefer A3 route over A61 any time.
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Old October 30th, 2012, 08:54 PM   #4462
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Actually they just started on a new segment of A3 near Würzburg, but it may take a few weeks before any visible roadworks will be going on there.
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Old October 30th, 2012, 09:07 PM   #4463
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Very early stages then. I haven't noticed anything yet...
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Old October 30th, 2012, 09:12 PM   #4464
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environmentally valuable area.

Oh well, could be worse...

I personally think the money saved for NOT building a tunnel would be more valuable, but ah well...

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The delay of this project is due to the fact that the tunnel has to be outfitted with additional safety equipment to be able to be used by hazardous materials transportation (Gefahrguttransporte).

This wasn´t planned during the concept phase but the authorities changed their minds as they suddenly realized that it would be "not so good" to send these transports through the villages around that tunnel
Sounds like Holland .
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Old October 30th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #4465
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The tunnel has more values than ecology alone. It also negates the issues with the steep raise in terrain, there is an escarpment where a plateau raises 200 meters over the valley. The old A4 used a narrow, steep and substandard alignment. The new tunnel reduces the grade, which is better for truck flow. A widening of the existing alignment could not adress these issues.

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Old October 31st, 2012, 07:15 PM   #4466
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BAB1 Hamburg - Bremen in 1988
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Old November 1st, 2012, 07:55 PM   #4467
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The little upgrade (7 years) Gruibingen - Mühlhausen could be finished the next time

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Old November 4th, 2012, 01:27 AM   #4468
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Only 7 years for 4 km...
Congratulations!

Which is the causes of this huge delay?
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Old November 4th, 2012, 04:53 PM   #4469
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The delay is only by two years, originally envisioned finishing touches in late 2010.

Iirc it was mostly some problems with the tenders (and resulting judicial proceedings) that complicated it. That, and too much water from the hillsides.
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Old November 5th, 2012, 04:39 PM   #4470
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Ah, ok!
Five years for 4 km...
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Old November 6th, 2012, 01:47 AM   #4471
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The tunnel has more values than ecology alone. It also negates the issues with the steep raise in terrain, there is an escarpment where a plateau raises 200 meters over the valley. The old A4 used a narrow, steep and substandard alignment. The new tunnel reduces the grade, which is better for truck flow. A widening of the existing alignment could not adress these issues.
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Will the speed limit be raised? It seeems like it was 120km/h in the Limitkarte I have.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 12:43 PM   #4472
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Will the speed limit be raised? It seeems like it was 120km/h in the Limitkarte I have.
Yes and no. The tunnel section and its approaches will certainly be limited to 80 km/h while the rest of this newly built stretch might not have an explicit speed limit at all.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 12:52 PM   #4473
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I don't understand why many Autobahn tunnels have such a low speed limit. What's the reason?
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Old November 6th, 2012, 01:19 PM   #4474
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Safety and smog perhaps.
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Real safety or nanny safety?
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Old November 6th, 2012, 01:37 PM   #4476
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Nanny safety of course. We live in a day and age where nobody is allowed to die.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 01:53 PM   #4477
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I can't imagine the Italian network with such a limit... on some motorways you'd be at a constant 80

And the last thing I'd like, inside a tunnel, would be keeping the same speed as the truck on my side...
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Old November 6th, 2012, 03:09 PM   #4478
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most drivers don't really keep those speed limit
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Old November 6th, 2012, 05:36 PM   #4479
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80 km/h in modern tunnels is a total joke. While German Autobahns are known for their high speeds, the tunnel speed limits are among the lowest in Europe.
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Old November 6th, 2012, 06:52 PM   #4480
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Glorious victory against ecology-minded Autobahn-haters today!

The Federal Administrative Court of Germany decided that the final A33 stretch near Bielefeld can be built now. This means that this Autobahn gap will be closed after fifty (50) years of planning.

Construction start is planned for 17.12.2012!
Length: 12,6 km
Costs: 140 millions €uro
Construction time: 2012 - 2019


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"Abschnitt 7.1" has now construction approval.
The other two stretches are already under construction.
The opening of "Abschnitt 5B" is planned for 05.12.2012.
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