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Old April 19th, 2013, 03:01 PM   #4761
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Old April 19th, 2013, 03:08 PM   #4762
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A3 Frankfurt - Nürnberg

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The groundbreaking ceremony for the A3 section between Kauppenbrücke and Rohrbrunn was yesterday.
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- groundbreaking ceremony
- Kauppenaufstieg
- Weibersbrunn - Rohrbrunn

Videos October 2012:
- AS Hösbach - AS Weibersbrunn
- AS Weibersbrunn - AS Marktheidenfeld
- Aschaffenburg - Würzburg (time lapse)
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Old April 19th, 2013, 03:26 PM   #4763
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The Investitionsrahmenplan showing the entire federal transport investment budget for 2011-2015 is available for download here (5 MB PDF).
Sorry, but that's totally wrong! The Investitionsrahmenplan is no financing plan! There's no budget for all that projects. The planning procedures for many projects will not be finished until 2015. This list is bullshit!

Page 7:
"Der Investitionsrahmenplan 2011 – 2015 ist wie sein Vorgänger kein Finanzierungsplan, sondern steckt den Planungsrahmen für die Investitionen in die Schienenwege des Bundes, in die Bundesfernstraßen und in die Bundeswasserstraßen im Zeitraum 2011 bis 2015 ab. Er enthält den Investitionsbedarf für den Ersatz und für die Erhaltung der Bestandsnetze, für die Fortführung der im Bau befindlichen Maßnahmen und für die Vorhaben mit weit fortgeschrittenem Planungsstand, die bereits Baureife haben oder diese im Zeitraum bis 2015 erreichen können."

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The IRP 2011-2015 is like its previous version no financing plan! It is a planning scope for Federal investments 2011 to 2015 regarding railways, Federal roads and Federal waterways. It contains the invest demand for maintaining the existing networks, continuing the current construction projects, and projects with advanced planning status which have building law or could reach it until 2015.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 03:32 PM   #4764
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The A3 Kauppenbrücke - Rohrbrunn widening is quite expensive. I assume we are talking about a complete rebuilding of the Autobahn here.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 03:57 PM   #4765
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The A3 Kauppenbrücke - Rohrbrunn widening is quite expensive.
No, it isn't. Only 103 million € for 8.0km.

AS Aschaffenburg to AS Aschaffenburg-Ost 41 million € for 4,9km (compleation: 2008).
AS Aschaffenburg-Ost to AS Hösbach 141 million € for 6.4km (including tunnel "Einhausung Hösbach-West" and "Einhausung Hösbach-Ost": 80 million €; finished in 2004).
AS Hösbach to Kauppenbrücke 138 million € for 7.8km (completion in late 2011).
Estimated costs for AS Rohrbrunn to Haseltalbrücke: 40 million € for 4.1km (not yet u/c).
The new Haseltalbrücke including 3km widening had costs of 50 million € (completion was in 2012).
Costs for Haseltalbrücke to west of AS Marktheidenfeld: 37 million €; 5.3km (not yet u/c).
AS Marktheidenfeld to border Bavaria / Baden-Württemberg: 61 million € for 9.7km (the construction for the first bridge over the A3 started this month - preliminary work).
The new Mainbrücke Bettingen: 40 million € (finished in 2001).
Mainbrücke Bettingen to Holzkirchhausen: 49 million € for 8.5km (next section to build).
Holzkirchhausen to AD Würzburg-West: 75 million € for 11.3km (finished in 2011).
AD WÜ-West to AS WÜ-Heidingsfeld: 60 million € for 8.0km (finished in 2009).
WÜ-Heidingsfeld to Mainbrücke Randersacker: 170 million € for 5.4km (preliminary works has started; estimated completion: 2018).
Mainbrücke Randersacker: 46 million € for 2.0km (finished since 2012).
AS WÜ/Randersacker to AK Biebelried: 123 million € for 9.7km (completion was in 2012).

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I assume we are talking about a complete rebuilding of the Autobahn here.
Only some parts will get a new line. Also one new viaduct "Talbrücke Aschaffquelle" will be built (200m). The viaduct "Kauppenbrücke" was already replaced by a new one, which is located a few hundred meters south of the old one.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 04:36 PM   #4766
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The Investitionsrahmenplan is no financing plan!
So? We all know that with our current CDU/FDP government there will not be significant changes in final financing in comparison to the preplanned allotment. Neither downwards (CDU preventing) nor upwards (FDP preventing).

We'll see whether that changes in September when we'll be back to a Grand Coalition.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 04:40 PM   #4767
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Only 103 million € for 8.0km.
While not outrageously expensive, € 13 million per kilometer for an Autobahn that runs entirely through a rural (forested) area without large bridges is not cheap either. Therefor I assumed it's more than just a new strip of pavement and some widened bridges.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 05:03 PM   #4768
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Therefor I assumed it's more than just a new strip of pavement and some widened bridges.
Nearly all German widening projects contain a complete rebuild of the road including sub-construction. The section Kauppenbrücke - Rohrbrunn will even get a new 200m viaduct (no replacement, but a new one), and a new edoduct (= green bridge, what's the correct English word for it?)

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Old April 20th, 2013, 05:08 PM   #4769
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Old April 21st, 2013, 09:49 PM   #4770
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B211 Oldenburg - Brake

The 1.4km long Loyerberg bypass east of Oldenburg is currently u/c. The plan approval procedure began in July 2009, the order was passed in August 2010. Groundbreaking was in November 2012, completion is estimated in late 2014. Costs: 4.5 million €. Project page; OSM.

Not far away a typical German project: The new B211 from Mittelort to Brake.
The 7.4km bypass will relieve the current winding road which is limited to 50 respectively 70 km/h. The plan approval procedure started in June 2009, the order was passed in December 2009. It was challenged, but all 4 complaints were canceled in 2010.
The works are tendered and will be contracted in May 2013. Estimated costs between 25 to 30 million € without taxes. Construction will start in September 2013 and are estimated to be finished in September 2018(!). Project page; OSM.

The AADT on the B211 was between 11.100 and 12.500 in 2010.
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 12:20 AM   #4771
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If anyone's interested, a U.S. highway was transported to Europe for an hour



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Old April 22nd, 2013, 04:40 PM   #4772
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Is the A94 from Pastetten to Dorfen already in construction?
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 04:52 PM   #4773
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Is the A94 from Pastetten to Dorfen already in construction?
Yes.
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 05:01 PM   #4774
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Will there sometime in the future be a motorway connection on A94 to Passau. I'm only asking because everytime they anounce something in the radio about A94 direction east, they say "Richtung Passau".
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 05:24 PM   #4776
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Will there sometime in the future be a motorway connection on A94 to Passau. I'm only asking because everytime they anounce something in the radio about A94 direction east, they say "Richtung Passau".
I'd recommend this site to follow for A94 Neubau info: http://www.abdsb.bayern.de/projekte/
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 05:24 PM   #4777
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Will there sometime in the future be a motorway connection on A94 to Passau. I'm only asking because everytime they anounce something in the radio about A94 direction east, they say "Richtung Passau".
This means nothing. Whenever there was a queue on A8 south of Munich, radio announced "Stau richtung Gardasee". Not Austria, not Italy. "Gardasee"
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According to this, it has been under construction since April 2012.

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Old April 22nd, 2013, 05:40 PM   #4779
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Is the A94 from Pastetten to Dorfen already in construction?
It is
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 05:51 PM   #4780
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This means nothing. Whenever there was a queue on A8 south of Munich, radio announced "Stau richtung Gardasee". Not Austria, not Italy. "Gardasee"
Lol, must have been vacation season
Antenne Bayern had Stauschrauber with live coverage from Brenner Pass
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