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Old June 14th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #5081
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You think that the tolls are only for those who cross the border? Tolls start at Innsbruck Süd!
Once again, Innsbruckers and Wipptalers are smart enough to take the B182 to go south, even to go, say, to Steinach or Matrei. The road is good and not so curvy (except the stretch near Europabrücke, but nothing dramatic). 8€ for 30 km is pure theft, and they recognize that too.

Foreigners often don't even know of such road so go straight and get robbed at Mautstelle Europabrücke. This is like those absurd tolls on Arlbergstraße and Karawanken tunnel , aimed at foreigners (or Voralbergers, who are basically foreigners to the rest of Austria).
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Old June 14th, 2013, 09:25 PM   #5082
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Well, the Austrians decided to make the motorway network a directly user paid network instead of an indirect user paid network (taxes). That also results in lower gas prices (lower taxation).

I understand the German (and Italian) sentiment about the vignette and Sondermaut, especially in the light that most Austrians have no Sondermaut between most of their largest cities (Innsbruck - Salzburg - Linz - Wien and Wien - Graz - Klagenfurt - Villach).
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Old June 14th, 2013, 09:51 PM   #5083
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Tomorrow at 8am A3 between Straubing and Vilshofen will eventually been reopen after the floodings.
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Old June 15th, 2013, 12:17 PM   #5084
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Once again, Innsbruckers and Wipptalers are smart enough to take the B182 to go south, even to go, say, to Steinach or Matrei. The road is good and not so curvy (except the stretch near Europabrücke, but nothing dramatic). 8€ for 30 km is pure theft, and they recognize that too.

Foreigners often don't even know of such road so go straight and get robbed at Mautstelle Europabrücke. This is like those absurd tolls on Arlbergstraße and Karawanken tunnel , aimed at foreigners (or Voralbergers, who are basically foreigners to the rest of Austria).
They do use those roads. If you go from Innsbruck to the next exit, you only pay 1 odd euro. And for 8 euros you get to go from Arlberg to Hungary or Slovakia and back within 10 days. You pay very little for fuel and Austrians don't pay road tax. I think it's good value for money.

Tyrolians and Vorarlbergers are in the same boat when it comes to the rest of Austria.
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Old June 15th, 2013, 01:45 PM   #5085
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Whatever.

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Old June 15th, 2013, 02:10 PM   #5086
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Europe is plenty of insanely-high tolls on some major routes, some of them are meant on purpouse to tax international traffic. For example the major Alpine tunnels (Frejus, Mont Blanc, St. Bernard, Tauer, Karavanken, Alberg, Munt la Schera), the Oresund Bridge, the 15€ Slovenian vignette for 10km of expressway between Trieste and Pula, etc, the 30€ Swiss vignette even if you drive 15km,... In many cases such tolls are a limit to the freedom of movement or, where there are alternatives, create huge traffic problems on local roads through villages, like it happens in Slovenia and Switzerland.
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Old June 16th, 2013, 02:54 AM   #5087
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Here can be found post about RAB around Kaliningrad (Koenigsberg):
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Old June 16th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #5088
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B96 Stralsund

A video of the B96 expressway from A20 to Rügen Island, across the Rügen Bridge in Stralsund.

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Old June 16th, 2013, 09:03 PM   #5089
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A video of the B96 expressway from A20 to Rügen Island, across the Rügen Bridge in Stralsund.
Thanks . But unfortunaly the video stopped to early. I had already looked forward seeing the following 2.5km long section from AS Altefähr to Rambin which was lately opened in November 2012.

The next 11.5km long section up to Samtens will be opened in 2015. The entire B96 up to Bergen (last section has a length of 6.4km) will be grade-separated and will feature 2+1 lanes after completion.
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Old June 16th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #5090
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Old June 16th, 2013, 09:22 PM   #5091
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A video of the B96 expressway from A20 to Rügen Island, across the Rügen Bridge in Stralsund.


the bridge from another angle during the final construction phase

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Old June 17th, 2013, 04:49 PM   #5092
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A7 widening (2x3) between Salzgitter and Göttingen (OSM; last 29.2km long gap): The Federal Court of Auditors ("Bundesrechungshof") has asserted that PPP would be more expensive than a conventional construction. The costs would be 12.8 million € higher. The Lower Saxony Ministry of Transport is happy, but the final decision will be made by the Federal Ministry of Transport.
The decision of the accounting control board ("Rechnungsprüfungsausschuss") was different! The Lower Saxony Ministry of Transport is really disappointed: > click <.


The Lower Saxony Ministry of Transport has also acknowledged that they are currently pushing plans for 2+1 upgrade of the B4 instead of the new A39 Lüneburg-Wolfsburg. It shall be submitted as an alternative variant for the new BVWP 2015.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 05:05 PM   #5093
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The A49 connects Kassel and Northern Germany with Frankfurt and the whole south-west Germany.
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The 2nd section from AS Schwalmstadt to AS Stadtallendorf has a length of 13.3km and contains 2 big viaducts (197m and 310m). It costs 130 million €. The plan approval order was passed in January 2012. It is challenged. Official project page: > click <; OSM.
The last stretch from AS Stadtallendorf to AD Gemünden is 17.4km long and costs 235 million €. It contains 4 big viaducts (180m, 235m, 350m, 460m). The plan approval order was passed in May 2012 and - of course - it is challenged . Official project page: > click <; OSM.
The complaint against the plan approval order for the 2nd section was canceled. The Hessian Ministry for Economics, Transport and Regional Development is happy and hopes for getting money from the Federal Government (> click <). The environmental organizations Nabu and BUND wants to pool their ressources and will concentrate on the 3rd section.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 05:47 PM   #5094
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About 19km of the A44 Kassel - Eisenach (66km) are currently under construction, 4.3km near Hessisch Lichtenau are in service since 2005.
The construction of the 2nd longest German Autobahn tunnel has started. The so-called Hirschhagen tunnel has a length of 4.2km and is part of the 6.1km long A44 section AS Helsa-East – AS Hessisch Lichtenau-West (OSM). The preliminary works have already started in May 2010.
The section has estimated costs of 326 million € and will be completed in late 2018 (see press release).

The next A44 opening will be the section east of the above mentioned section from AS Hessisch Lichtenau-West to AS Hessisch Lichtenau-Center (OSM). The construction of the 2.2km section has started in April 2008 and is expected to be completed in autumn 2013. It includes a 700m tunnel and a 100m ecoduct.

btw: The total costs for the A44 Kassel - Eisenach have increased from 1.6 billion € to 1.8 billion € by now.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 10:26 PM   #5095
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A98 Hochrheinautobahn

The routes for the future A98 section 6 from Wehr to Murg are still in discussion (OSM): http://buergerforum-hochrhein.de/.

Simulation pics: > click <.
Simulation video: > click <.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 10:33 PM   #5096
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A33/B51 Belm bypass

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Only preliminary works will be done in 2013: a subordinate street will be placed, see press release.
The completion of the bypass is estimated in 2019, see today's groundbreaking press release.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 10:42 PM   #5097
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Groundbreaking for B183 Bad Liebenwerda bypass will be on 20th June (OSM; 5.2km; 29 million €; plan approval order: May 2012; completion: late 2017).

Completion of B20 2+1 upgrade west of Furth im Wald will be on 19th June (OSM; 3.8km; 7.0 million €; plan approval order: June 2010; groundbreaking: February 2012 // completion of 1st phase: May 2011; 1.5km; 2.7 million €).
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Old June 17th, 2013, 11:14 PM   #5098
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Tomorrow at 8am A3 between Straubing and Vilshofen will eventually been reopen after the floodings.
Did the A92 to Deggendorf the evening before the A3 reopened (which was a couple hours later than planned, too many reporters crowding it).

Police had roadblocks at every offramp from the A92 between ca Dingolfing and Plattling, dropping the motorway down to single-lane and filtering out trucks (generally not allowed to Deggendorf during the flooding) and tourists who didn't know about the A3 closure. At pedestrian speed. Each roadblock, about every 5-6 km, created about 2-3 km of traffic jam ahead of it, and the A92 wasn't exactly full.

Traffic on the B20 and B8, the declared bypasses for the flooded A3 (and for those who wanted to get to eastern Oberpfalz towns like Cham from Munich via A92) was insane too. Took me nearly an hour from Landau to Straubing to get to the A3 on the way back out from Deggendorf.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 01:46 AM   #5099
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Several damages on Autobahns in south east Bavaria because of heat - one dead.

http://m.welt.de/article.do?id=vermi...cid=Startseite

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heard about this also on the radio
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