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Old November 2nd, 2013, 12:08 AM   #5721
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Main route through Swiss is St Gotthard.
Not if you travel from Bavaria, then it's the A13 for sure.
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Old November 2nd, 2013, 09:53 AM   #5722
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Yes but Europe is a little bit bigger than just Bavaria.
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Old November 2nd, 2013, 10:40 AM   #5723
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Actually I pay less than 120 euro as road tax so my costs would increase with such a system although I am a German tax payer.
Simple solution: Adopt the Austrian pricing model, where a sticker for one year is a lot cheaper compared to one for a few days or a month.
Yet it's very probably impossible to find a system that would indeed be cost neutral to all German car drivers and does yield enough additional revenues to finance the enforcement of the toll, not to mention the claimed objective to rise additional income for road maintenance.

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That is only the opinion of the European Commissioner for Transport Mr. Kallas. A press officer contradicted today there is no agreement for the German toll plan.
The Commission didn't give a green light. However, the proposed model would obviously comply with European Law as no foreigner gets discriminated.
German media did make a mountain out of a molehill there as this isn't sensational news to anyone who has a little understanding of European Law.


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I have a solution for this, too! The German state would pay people like you the difference back.
And this very probably would be a discrimination of EU foreigners as the state would pay hidden subsidies to its citizens.
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Old November 2nd, 2013, 11:33 PM   #5724
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According to Google Maps:
Ingolstadt - Munich - Kufstein - Innsbruck - Bolzano: 362km, 3:30h
Ingolstadt - Munich - Garmisch - Innsbruck - Bolzano: 343km, 3:52h

It is faster!
I doubt that Google knows the real situation on both routes and the Garmisch option will even improve in future when the tunnels are built. But I don't want to convince you. This discussion is now far away from the starting point.
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 11:42 AM   #5725
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- The official opening ceremony of the AD Barnim reconstruction (A10/A11, including 4.2km A10 2x3 widening) will be happen on 11th November 2013.
Where and what time?
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 12:22 PM   #5726
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Where and what time?
I've no information yet. I guess a press release will be published here on Thursday or Friday. In additon all public events of the state secretaries from the Federal Ministry of Transportation are published here (I guess the announcement for the AD Barnim opening will be available on Friday or Saturday).
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 01:39 PM   #5727
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In my opinion our European friends should have two options:

A vignette paid for one year: 120,00 €uro
A vignette paid for one month: 10,00 €uro
The Federal Ministry of Transport is talking about 100 € per year. The system shall be similar to the Austrian vignette system. If the current tax on car is lower than 100 € the vignette costs could be lowered by a ecological allowance ("Öko-Rabatt"). There should also be a cheaper vignette with a validation for a couple of days.

But the SPD is still against a car toll at all!
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Old November 4th, 2013, 04:00 PM   #5728
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Question...

I need to get some Umwelt discs at the TÜV in Munich this week for our vehicles. If I just show them the vehicle papers, will that be enough, and how much will it cost? I think we fall into he green category.
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Old November 4th, 2013, 05:58 PM   #5729
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That should be enough. Costs 5€ for the Umweltplakette.

In the papers its important whats written under V.9 14 or 14.1
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Old November 4th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #5730
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I have no idea. They're all Austrian registrations... But thanks!
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Old November 4th, 2013, 06:43 PM   #5731
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I have no idea. They're all Austrian registrations... But thanks!
All EU registration papers have those fields.
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Old November 6th, 2013, 11:49 AM   #5732
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A20 Bad Segeberg

The Bundesverwaltungsgericht in Leipzig has annulled the plan approval of the A20 around Bad Segeberg. The current plan cannot proceed.

Mitigation of impact of the Autobahn on a bat populace is not sufficient and they failed to examine possible alternatives further south.
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Old November 7th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #5733
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I've no information yet. I guess a press release will be published here on Thursday or Friday.
The opening ceremony will be on 11th November at 2PM.
Location: use the B2 bridge over A10 towards A11 Prenzlau; it is only possible to reach the location via B2 from Berlin; signposted towards A11 Prenzlau

http://www.mil.brandenburg.de/cms/de...b1.c.346257.de
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The opening ceremony will be on 11th November at 2PM.
Location: use the B2 bridge over A10 towards A11 Prenzlau; it is only possible to reach the location via B2 from Berlin; signposted towards A11 Prenzlau

http://www.mil.brandenburg.de/cms/de...b1.c.346257.de
Will you attend to take some pics ?
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Old November 8th, 2013, 01:11 PM   #5735
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Pics of some ceremony? I'm sure they've got some media crews to do that...
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Old November 8th, 2013, 03:02 PM   #5736
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I have a question about B297. Are there any plans to bulid a bypass of Goppingen?
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Old November 8th, 2013, 08:21 PM   #5737
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Will you attend to take some pics ?
Maybe pmaciej7? http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=5725
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Old November 8th, 2013, 08:27 PM   #5738
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I have a question about B297. Are there any plans to bulid a bypass of Goppingen?
No. A 18km new B465 b/n Schordorf and Göppingen was further demand within the BVWP 2003 (46 million €) but the project is not included in the state's proposal list for the new BVWP 2015.
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Old November 10th, 2013, 11:28 AM   #5739
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A5 Baden-Baden - Offenburg

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Another update: On the A5 between Basel and Karlsruhe the last 50 km before Karlsruhe are nearly finished as 2x3 (was 2x2). Hopefully the extra lanes open to traffic soon!
The traffic is already running in 7 of 9 sections on its own carriageways, but there are only 2 lanes available. The traffic in the last two A5 sections (no. 4 and no. 8) is still running on one carriageway ("4+0"). I guess the section will be opened 2x3 all at once in January or February 2014.
The sections 5, 6 and 7 will be opened 2x3 next week. Section 1-4 will be opened 2x3 until early 2014. A short part of section 8 will be relocated on both carriagesway (2x2) in mid November 2013.

The PPP contract deadline for completion is December 2014. The construction costs are about 350 million €. The truck toll revenues are loan to the company "Via Solutions Südwest". But the toll revenues are lower than calculated in 2008 due to the parallel toll free French A35 (that's not my opinion but the official statement of the company) and the financial crisis.

The missing money will be saved by postponing the completion of section 8. There are some expensive works open like pavement, noise protection, safety fences and signposting. The completion will be in September 2014 and section 8 and 9 will be opened 2x3 (both sections are 5.5km long i.e. 11.0km in total). This will be still 3 month prior deadline. The company is emphasizing that they don't have financial problems. They are not illiquidity.

Sources: 1, 2 and 3.
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Old November 10th, 2013, 11:38 AM   #5740
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A7 Rader Hochbrücke

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A7: Flensburg - Hamburg

The Rader Hochbrücke which crosses the Kiel canal has been closed for all truck traffic as of today. The bridge needs to be repaired which will take four months.

The most important bypass - through the Rendsburg canal tunnel on the B77 - has been under renovation for years and will be so for several more years. Currently there is only one lane for each direction. Thousands of trucks will have to pass this bottleneck. This will create chaos.

http://www.shz.de/nachrichten/top-th...n-problem.html

Political parties are contemplating the lack of renovation over the past years. The Green party in Schleswig-Holstein (part of the state government) claims that renovation should be priorotized over new construction - and is demanding to stop the widening of the A7 between Bordesholm and Hamburg!
The Rader Hochbrücke was reopened 2x2 on Friday after completion of reconstruction, see press release. Trucks are allowed to use the bridge again. The hard shoulders are still closed for static reasons. The construction costs are 2.7 million €. The contracts were assigned w/o bidding procedure. An expertise about the remaining useful life of the bridge will be available in mid 2014.
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