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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #561
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You mean this white background?
Yeah I've only seen black and yellow.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 01:58 PM   #562
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Interesting. In Germany they're always yellow, this is the first white one I see.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 02:44 PM   #563
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Interesting. In Germany they're always yellow, this is the first white one I see.
or black
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Old January 27th, 2008, 05:10 PM   #564
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I've never seen yellow traffic lights in Germany. Only black and sometimes white.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 08:37 PM   #565
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Oh, typo, I meant black of course. I've never seen yellow ones here.
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Old January 28th, 2008, 09:13 AM   #566
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Interesting. In Germany they're always yellow, this is the first white one I see.
They are very common. At least in the Rhein-Ruhr area.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 12:22 PM   #567
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Isn't that before Berlin?
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No it's in Duisburg, 500km away from Berlin
Well, it almost looks like this "Behelfsbrücke" (temporary bridge) that was installed at the Dreieck Nuthetal-Construction near Berlin. Now, that a new onramp to the A115 is finished, the temporary bridge has been removed.
This bridge in Duisburg also seems to be quite temporary...
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Old February 8th, 2008, 10:05 PM   #568
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I'm hoping to drive out to Germany tomorrow. A2 Oberhausen - Bad Oeynhausen is planned
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Old February 8th, 2008, 11:27 PM   #569
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Old February 9th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #570
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It was a beautiful day today, so it was time for the first long drive this year, actually the first within 3 months. I decided to go to Germany, to see the A2. I started in my hometown Zwolle, drove to Arnhem, and then to Oberhausen, where these pictures begin. I drove along the northern edge of the Ruhr industrial urban area, where i got stuck in a one hour, 3 mile/5 kilometer traffic jam between the "Kamener Kreuz" and "Hamm". After the traffic jam, a long section of 2x3 lanes began, i really like it when motorways are build out to 6 lanes, it gives you the opportunity to easily overtake the trucks, while you don't have to worry about the many Michael Schumachers this country has. Near Bielefeld, the geography changes, and we see hills, ascents and long descents, as we cross through the Teutoburger Wald, and the Wesergebirge. (Teutoburger Woods and Weser Mountains). The journey ends at Bad Eilsen, about 40km southwest of Hannover.

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Distance: 580km/360 miles
Fuel consumption: 1 liter per 14,8 km (winter usage within my city: 1 liter per 11,6 km)
Max. Speed: 155km/h / 96 mph
Average Speed: 90km/h / 55 mph (incl. traffic jam) or 105km/h / 65 mph (excl. traffic jam)
breaks: 2 times for gas (start and end of the journey) and 2 short pee stops of 5 minutes
Traffic jams: German A2 east of Dortmund, and Dutch N35 in Nijverdal
Lost time: 1 hour on A2 and 10 minutes on N35.
Fuel costs per kilometer: € 0,0862

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Old February 10th, 2008, 01:02 AM   #571
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Do you really make trips just for the sake of driving Chris? That's nuts
Anyway, great pics, thanks for sharing

I've driven the German A2 whenever I visited my family in Munster and I remember making my way trough a ridiculous bottleneck in Bad Oeynausen. Just before the town, the autobahn turns into a city avenue (which is terribly jammed most of the time) running through the very centre to turn into the same autobahn again past the town.
I've always wondered why they couldn't just build a motorway bypass of the city. Maybe there was something to do with environmentalists and all that stuff, I've no idea. Anyone knows why?
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Old February 10th, 2008, 01:05 AM   #572
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Great report!

PS: consumption in km per liter?!
Is that usual in the Netherlands? I thought they only used that kind of consumption in the US (miles per gallon).
As far as I know (maybe I'm wrong) liters per 100km is the standard: X l/100km
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Old February 10th, 2008, 09:05 AM   #573
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You are actually right, L/100km is usually used, at least from what I've heard. However, it is very simple to convert. Just divide 100 by Chris' number (100/14.8) and you're done
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Old February 10th, 2008, 10:57 AM   #574
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This A2 looks quite curvy in second part of pictures. Is there any speed limit, because it would make sense?.
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Old February 10th, 2008, 12:10 PM   #575
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I've driven the German A2 whenever I visited my family in Munster and I remember making my way trough a ridiculous bottleneck in Bad Oeynausen. Just before the town, the autobahn turns into a city avenue (which is terribly jammed most of the time) running through the very centre to turn into the same autobahn again past the town.
I've always wondered why they couldn't just build a motorway bypass of the city. Maybe there was something to do with environmentalists and all that stuff, I've no idea. Anyone knows why?
Video of the B61 / A30 through Bad Oeynhausen


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PS: consumption in km per liter?!
Is that usual in the Netherlands? I thought they only used that kind of consumption in the US (miles per gallon).
As far as I know (maybe I'm wrong) liters per 100km is the standard: X l/100km
We usually say how much kilometers one can drive on one liter.

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This A2 looks quite curvy in second part of pictures. Is there any speed limit, because it would make sense?.
It has some speed limits, but not too much. I noticed only a few Germans actually drove faster than 150/160km/h, while the road had 2x3 lanes and low traffic volumes. All those stories about all Germans flying over the road is nonsense. I must agree that few people drive less than 130km/h
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Old February 10th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #576
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why do they hate german names? I mean, luxembourg instead of luxemburg.. well yeah not the most striking example but I find it interesting
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Old February 10th, 2008, 12:47 PM   #577
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New rules in German signage is that the city should be signed with it's own name, not a German translation. So Liège, Arnhem and Nijmegen and not Lüttich, Arnheim and Nimwegen.

I think it's a very good thing. You have to know the name of that city anyway to continue in the neighboring country.
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Old February 10th, 2008, 01:29 PM   #578
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Video of the B61 / A30 through Bad Oeynhausen
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Cool video. I'm wondering, since the traffic lights in Germany are located at the stop line (i.e. before the intersection), how do left-turning drivers who are waiting inside the intersection (when there is no dedicated left-turn signal) know when the light turns yellow/red? I guess they can only know when the oncoming traffic has stopped, but that's quite inconvenient...

Oh yeah, and that green wave looks awesome, I've never seen so many traffic lights being green in a row without any queues

And again, great pictures and videos, as always
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Old February 10th, 2008, 02:15 PM   #579
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that's true, traffic lights are sometimes hard to see

the signs on the Kreuz Wittlich where the A1 meets the A60 say Lüttich (Liège), so, both names are used. Really bad is that in belgium where they use the name in the language of where you are at the moment. Namen, Bergen, Antwerpen in the dutch speaking part, Namur, Mons, Anvèrs in the french speaking.


The A2 looks pretty cool there, must be fun to drive there on sundays, people usually drive faster on sundays (from my experience).
Speed limits: between Hamm and Bad Eilsen there are only a few speed limits. At exit Hamm there is 120km/h, then for 100km no limit, then between Porta Westfalica and Bad Eilsen there are three parts with 120km/h (if the Autobahnatlas is right )

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Old February 10th, 2008, 02:44 PM   #580
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why do they hate german names? I mean, luxembourg instead of luxemburg.. well yeah not the most striking example but I find it interesting
Luxemburg could still be written German, since its history is rather German.
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