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Old February 11th, 2014, 08:02 PM   #6061
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I don't understand why many people still choose A2 on their way from Ruhr area to southern Poland instead of this wonderful motorway...
The A38 mostly winds through hilly landscape. The A2 in contrast is mostly flat and straight like an airport runway.

Additionally you had to take the A44 to the A7, then pass Kassel and go through parts of the Kasseler Berge (Kassel Mountains) including the infamous Werra valley speed traps.


I can very well understand, nobody drives that way
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Old February 11th, 2014, 08:42 PM   #6062
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A38 quiet as usual. I've never experienced larger amount of vehicles on this motorway since they completed last stretch in December 2009.
Right, the A38 has one of the lowest AADT on German Autobahns.

AADT 2010 (source):

AD Drammetal (A7) – AS Friedland (3) 24900 / 4258 (17,1%)
AS Friedland (3) – AS Arenshausen (4) 19300 / 3976 (20,6%)
AS Arenshausen (4) – AS Heilbad Heiligenstadt (5) 19300 / 3976 (20,6%)
AS Heilbad Heiligenstadt (5) – AS Leinefelde-Worbis (6) 15600 / 3385 (21,7%)
AS Leinefelde-Worbis (6) – AS Breitenworbis (7) 21300 / 4580 (21,5%)
AS Breitenworbis (7) – AS Bleicherode (8) 17200 / 3732 (21,7%)
AS Bleicherode (8) – AS Großwechsungen (9) 23600 / 4673 (19,8%)
AS Großwechsungen (9) – AS Werther (10) 24200 / 4985 (20,6%)
AS Werther (10) – AS Nordhausen (11) 20900 / 4305 (20,6%)
AS Nordhausen (11) – AS Heringen (12) 20200 / 4202 (20,8%)
AS Heringen (12) – AS Berga (13) 18000 / 3816 (21,2%)
AS Berga (13) – AS Sangerhausen-Süd (16) 20000 / 4040 (20,2%)
AS Sangerhausen-Süd (16) – AS Eisleben (19) 19700 / 4176 (21,2%)
AS Eisleben (19) – AD Halle-Süd (A143) 21500 / 3935 (18,3%)
AD Halle-Süd (A143) – AS Bad Lauchstädt (23) 20000 / 3560 (17,8%)
AS Bad Lauchstädt (23) – AS Merseburg-Nord (24) 23000 / 3933 (17,1%)
AS Merseburg-Nord (24) – AS Merseburg-Süd (25) 23000 / 4071 (17,7%)
AS Merseburg-Süd (25) – AS Leuna (26) 22300 / 4036 (18,1%)
AS Leuna (26) – AK Rippachtal (A9) 23600 / 4649 (19,7%)
AK Rippachtal (A 9) – AS Lützen (28) 23800 / 3975 (16,7%)
AS Lützen (28) – AS Leipzig-Südwest (29) 23400 / 3931 (16,8%)
AS Leipzig-Südwest (29) – AS Leipzig-Neue Harth (30) 26600 / 4336 (16,3%)
AS Leipzig-Neue Harth (30) – AS Leipzig-Süd (31) 27500 / 4345 (15,8%)
AS Leipzig-Süd (31) – AS Leipzig-Südost (32) 28400 / 4487 (15,8%)
AS Leipzig-Südost (32) – AD Parthenaue (A14) 24800 / 4142 (16,7%)
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Old February 11th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #6063
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It's not a lot, but not deserted either. 20k on a two-lane road would make in overloaded.
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Old February 12th, 2014, 12:20 AM   #6064
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Small update regarding the tunnel currently being build at the South-West corner of the Munich Mittlerer Ring:





The actual tunnel looks be build completely but the next year or so will still be necessary to finish the interior of the tunnel, install systems, test and build the on- and off-ramps.

Once completed it should be a significant improvement for the traffic on the Mittlerer Ring between the A95 and A96.
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Old February 12th, 2014, 04:32 AM   #6065
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is there any new news on Chiemgaustrasse and Englischer Garten tunnels?
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Old February 12th, 2014, 10:05 PM   #6066
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The German government talked today about infrastructure.
- 5 bn euro additional money will be spent to urgent infrastructural works (i.e. reconstruction of roads and railways that have a very bad state of repair).
- In the following years the infrastructural budget will be increased but not from general tax incomes but from incomes from users, i.e. road tolls and increasing fuel tax.
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Old February 12th, 2014, 10:08 PM   #6067
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- In the following years the infrastructural budget will be increased but not from general tax incomes but from incomes from users, i.e. road tolls and increasing fuel tax.
Does that mean increasing the fuel tax and truck tolls, or redirecting a larger portion of those existing taxes to infrastructure? German motorists pay about € 50 billion in taxes per year, so that € 5 billion (in how many years?) is not all that impressive compared to the tax revenue.
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Old February 12th, 2014, 11:10 PM   #6068
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Any news on the bypass of bad oeynhausen?
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Old February 13th, 2014, 09:50 AM   #6069
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Does that mean increasing the fuel tax and truck tolls, or redirecting a larger portion of those existing taxes to infrastructure? German motorists pay about € 50 billion in taxes per year, so that € 5 billion (in how many years?) is not all that impressive compared to the tax revenue.
- Increasing fuel tax (7 ct/l)
- Expanding truck tolls to Landstrassen (non-motorway roads outside towns)
- Expanding truck tolls to trucks over 7.5t (currently it's 12t) and to buses (excluding public transport)
- PKW-Maut, i.e. road toll for cars. Road tax will be decreased so that a surplus will come from foreigners only.

However, you mix two separate things. One is 5 bn immediately for urgent infrastructural works (both road and rail). Another thing is to increase the yearly infrastructural budget, using incomes from the sources listed above.
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Old February 13th, 2014, 10:01 AM   #6070
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Any news on the bypass of bad oeynhausen?
I think they opened half of the bypass in November, IIRC.

Let's wait for MichiH, he knows everything about these projects
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Old February 13th, 2014, 11:04 PM   #6071
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Old February 14th, 2014, 05:34 PM   #6072
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Any news on the bypass of bad oeynhausen?
No. The first 1.6km section b/n i/c Bad Oeynhausen-North and i/c Dehme should be opened 2x1 in spring 2014. The other 5.3km and 1.9km sections both will probably be opened in 2016.
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Old February 14th, 2014, 05:55 PM   #6073
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Is it still planned to open the first segment of B50n near Wittlich this year?
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Old February 14th, 2014, 06:34 PM   #6074
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Yes, but the latest news was published one year ago (March 2013: estimated opening in summer 2014).
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Old February 14th, 2014, 07:42 PM   #6075
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The German government talked today about infrastructure.
Yes, they've talked about it. It was a discussion, not a resolution, see press information.

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- 5 bn euro additional money will be spent to urgent infrastructural works (i.e. reconstruction of roads and railways that have a very bad state of repair).
That's only the intention of the coalitions agreement. 5 billion € within the current election period (4 years).

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- In the following years the infrastructural budget will be increased but not from general tax incomes but from incomes from users, i.e. road tolls and increasing fuel tax.
Could be increased.... An annual car toll for 50 million € would also generate an income of 2 billion €..... Blablablablablablabla......

The best sentense (joke) of the press information is the last one:

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Für die Fraktion Bündnis 90/Die Grünen brennt das Thema „lichterloh“. Lösungen müssten so schnell wie möglich gefunden werden.
The Greens said that the problem is very urgent. Solutions must be found as soon as possible.
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Old February 15th, 2014, 09:54 AM   #6076
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Danke für die kleine Liste der Websites über Preisberechnung von Benzol. Gibt es eine Android-oder iPhone-Apps, wo ich Preis von Benzin und Diesel Freiburg oder Emmendingen vergleichen? bitte jemand mir empfehlen.

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Old February 15th, 2014, 10:25 AM   #6077
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There are quite a few. "Clever Tanken" is one afaik
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Old February 15th, 2014, 04:16 PM   #6078
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is there any new news on Chiemgaustrasse and Englischer Garten tunnels?
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Erste Abstimmung in Richtung Tunnel

Vorentscheidung im Stadtrat: Im Planungsausschuss zeichnet sich eine Mehrheit für die Sparvariante am Stau-Knoten Isarring/Ifflandstraße ab - die Variante, die als Übergangslösung bis zum Bau des Tunnels unter dem Ring gedacht ist.

Geht es nach den Befürwortern eines Autotunnels im Englischen Garten, steht an diesem Mittwoch eine Vorentscheidung an: Dann diskutiert der Planungsausschuss über den Ausbau des Stau-Knotens Isarring/Ifflandstraße - und es zeichnet sich eine klare Mehrheit für die Sparvariante ab, die als Übergangslösung bis zum Bau des Tunnels gedacht ist.

Verlierer der Debatte wäre dann die SPD, die sich großzügigere Fahrspuren wünscht, damit auf dem Mittleren Ring kein Tempolimit eingerichtet werden muss. Zudem missfällt den Sozialdemokraten die Vorstellung, absichtlich zu Lasten der Autofahrer ein Nadelöhr zu schaffen, nur um den nötigen Druck zum Bau eines Tunnels aufrechtzuerhalten. Setzen sich CSU, Grüne und FDP durch, besteht der Isarring an dieser Stelle künftig nur noch aus Drei-Meter-Spuren.

Keine Fördergelder, wenn der Verkehr fließt
"Wird der Isarring komplett ausgebaut, ist der Tunnel mausetot" - dieser Satz des Tunnel-Aktivisten Hermann Grub gilt nach Einschätzung vieler Stadträte weiterhin. Einfach, weil der Freistaat angeblich kein Fördergeld mehr herausrücken würde, wenn der Verkehr erst einmal ordentlich fließt. Dass die Verwaltung beteuert, es sei ohnehin nur eine vergleichsweise geringe Summe für die neue Einfädelspur zu erwarten und keineswegs eine komplette Tunnel-Förderung, wird von Teilen des Stadtrats schlicht nicht geglaubt.

Die Verwaltung steht bei den Tunnel-Befürwortern inzwischen in dem Ruf, das Projekt ganz bewusst zu boykottieren. Viele Politiker verwenden daher bewusst die Argumentation der Tunnel-Initiative, die mit Unterstützung eines renommierten Planungsbüros auf deutlich niedrigere Baukosten und geringere Auswirkungen auf die Bäume des Englischen Gartens kommt als die Experten der Stadtverwaltung.

Der Stadtrat stimmt an diesem Mittwoch zunächst nur über eine neue Einfädelspur ab. Befürworter der Drei-Meter-Lösung sehen dies aber als ersten Schritt zum Bau des Garten-Tunnels - schon weil die Sparvariante bewusst als Provisorium gedacht ist. Die SPD ist hingegen überzeugt, dass auch nach dem Bau einer Vollspur die Tunneloption erhalten bleibt. OB-Kandidat Dieter Reiter hat bereits ein klares Bekenntnis zu dem Projekt abgegeben.

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Explizit gegen den Bau der Röhre ist keine einzige Stadtratsfraktion. CSU-OB-Kandidat Josef Schmid würde sogar am liebsten sofort mit den Planungen beginnen. Eine Entscheidung soll aber erst im Lauf des Jahres fallen, wenn das Planungsreferat eine detaillierte Beurteilung aller drei Tunnelprojekte abgibt - neben dem Isarring sind Röhren an der Landshuter Allee und an der Tegernseer Landstraße im Gespräch.

Allerdings gibt es bei aller Tunneleuphorie bei Politikern von SPD und Grünen Zweifel, ob die kostspieligen Projekte bezahlbar sind. Zumal sie erhebliche Betriebskosten zur Folge haben. Die grüne OB-Kandidatin Sabine Nallinger hat ausgerechnet, dass ein Tunnel an der Landshuter Allee pro Tag 72 000 Euro Unterhalt kostet. Mit diesem Geld lasse sich im Sozialbereich sehr viel Gutes bewirken. Die Grünen wollen nach Auskunft von Stadtrat Paul Bickelbacher am Mittwoch eine weitere Variante in die Diskussion werfen: den Bau einer Landschaftsbrücke über dem Isarring, die aller Voraussicht nach billiger wäre als ein Tunnel. Zudem will die Fraktion einen neuen Finanzier mit ins Boot holen: den Freistaat, der schließlich für die Verwaltung des Englischen Gartens zuständig sei.

Nachtrag vom 29.01.2014

Bei der oben erwähnten Abstimmung kam es am Mittwoch zu einem Patt: Der Stadtrat konnte sich nicht entscheiden, ob der Isarring drei breite oder drei schmale Fahrspuren bekommen soll. Das wäre womöglich auch eine Vorentscheidung in Sachen Englischer-Garten-Tunnel gewesen. Doch die ist nun erneut vertagt.
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/...nnel-1.1874507

To summarize until there is a final decision regarding the tunnel there are two options to solve the problem of the connection between the ring and the Ifflandstrasse. Option 1 is change of the north bound ring from 2x 3,50m width to 3x 3m width, that way only a small part of the Englishen Garten needs to be used for the third lane that should remove the traffic light and daily traffic jam at the ring. Option 2 is a more permanent widening from 2x 3,50m to 3x 3,50m but many people fear that would mean the tunnel will never be build and the Englischen Garten stays seperated.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 02:22 AM   #6079
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Been te Berlin this weekend and I have a question :
On Autobahn2 between Hannover and Braunschweig, what are the reasons for the varying speed limits, it's silly, one portal shows 130, next one is 100, next is 130 again, next is 100 again, repeat, with no apparent reason.

Everywhere else I could see reasons why, eg. Kreuz or city nearby or there were undersigns explaining the limits. But on that particular section, it looks like some monkey is playing with buttons to set the limit at 100 or 130 at random.


And meh, loads of Poles breaking the rules with their LKW's on a sunday, lovely driving overall though without trucks (bar a few Polish trucks) on sunday.
Berlin is a bit of a mess road wise, it feels like half the city center is being rebuilt, but at least you can park everywhere and quite cheaply, and I've had no traffic problems.

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Old February 17th, 2014, 10:54 AM   #6080
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Been te Berlin this weekend and I have a question :
On Autobahn2 between Hannover and Braunschweig, what are the reasons for the varying speed limits, it's silly, one portal shows 130, next one is 100, next is 130 again, next is 100 again, repeat, with no apparent reason.

Everywhere else I could see reasons why, eg. Kreuz or city nearby or there were undersigns explaining the limits. But on that particular section, it looks like some monkey is playing with buttons to set the limit at 100 or 130 at random.
Have you seen it in dynamic, electronic signs?
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