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Old April 4th, 2014, 06:03 PM   #6221
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Bundesverkehrswegeplan 2015

The revised concept for the BVWP 2015 was published today, see press release.

The BVWP will be valid until 2030. The public will be participated in the process. The main feature is a nationwide priority concept to ensure that the funding will be used efficient and according to the demand. This means:
- Maintenance before upgrade and new buildings (Vorrang von Erhaltungsinvestitionen vor Aus- und Neubauvorhaben)
- Upgrades and new buildings on important transit projects first (Fokussierung des Aus- und Neubaus auf überregional bedeutsame Projekte)
- Bottle necks on main routes will be prioritized (Priorisierung von Aus- und Neubauprojekten zur Engpassbeseitigung auf Hauptachsen)

Next steps:
- Make a list of all submitted projects: Spring 2014
- Evaluation of all submitted projects (by experts): 2014/2015
- Presentation of the preliminary BVWP 2015 and cabinet decision: 2. half-year 2015
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Old April 4th, 2014, 06:54 PM   #6222
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Note how the BVWPs become increasingly long term. The BVWP was renewed every 5-7 years between the 1970s and 1990s and increased to 11 years from 1992-2014 and now another 15 years.

The basic problem is the lack of funding. Back in 2011 only 40% of the "urgent need" projects of 2001 were completed or under construction.
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Old April 4th, 2014, 07:00 PM   #6223
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An official stats from March 2014: > click <.

33% of all urgent projects were completed until 2013. 70% of all urgent Autobahn projects were completed. (I don't believe that stats b/c there are not yet 100% of all Autobahn projects completed in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, see page 4).
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Old April 5th, 2014, 06:17 PM   #6224
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Germany won't need any new Autobahns once the ones that are in planning and under construction now are built. Now, we have to invest in maintainance and some upgrading here and there.
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Old April 5th, 2014, 07:10 PM   #6225
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Germany won't need any new Autobahns once the ones that are in planning and under construction now are built. Now, we have to invest in maintainance and some upgrading here and there.
Well said. But I don't see that many ofthe motorways that are in plaaning today will ever be built.
On the other hand side, let us hope they'll get along with the maintenance before we see any bridges tumble.
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Old April 5th, 2014, 07:11 PM   #6226
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The BVWP 2015 proposal contains new Autobahns but I guess there are no new projects since BVWP 2003. Do you think Germany don't needs the 2nd A94 carriageway near Burghausen? This project is a BVWP 2003 project which is "not yet planned" (only proposed and classified as "further demand").

In addition the BVWP contains many Autobahn widening projects. I think there are new submitted projects like the A81 widening (2x3 --> 2x4) b/n Heilbronn and Stuttgart which are needed (AADT 2010 b/n 90,000 and 130,000 vehicles/day)!

The BVWP also contains B road projects...........
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Old April 5th, 2014, 07:35 PM   #6227
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I've checked the published proposal lists of the states.

The northern A71 extension in Saxony-Anhalt b/n A14 and A38 is the only new submitted Autobahn project.
The A21 b/n A7 and A39 in Lower Saxony, the eastern A27 extension in Lower Saxony, the western A39 extension b/n A33 and A7 (proposed by NRW and Lower Saxony) and the A99 southern ring of Munich were already withdrawn.
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I don't think the states are seriously calling for a whole new era of new motorway construction. They just need to mop up the remaining missing links and focus on widening projects.

For example, I don't see why A39 would be necessary in addition to A14. Just widen A7 to six lanes and maybe eight lanes on the busiest stretches.

I think the extended A39 southwest of Salzgitter was just to make a point that eight-laning A2 makes more sense than a whole new reliever route.
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Old April 5th, 2014, 10:22 PM   #6229
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I think the extended A39 southwest of Salzgitter was just to make a point that eight-laning A2 makes more sense than a whole new reliever route.
I also think that the western A39 extension was just used by the state's government to get acceptance for an A2 widening but I usually prefer having two 2x2 or 2x3 roads instead of one 2x4 road b/c a 2nd road means an alternative route in case of an accident and it develops new terrain and it relieves rural roads there.
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A most-needed Autobahn is a Freiburg-Memmingën

A Fernham-Cuxhaven Autobhan is also needed, to provide cross-links to the highways converging on HAmburg.
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Old April 6th, 2014, 11:38 AM   #6231
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A most-needed Autobahn is a Freiburg-Memmingën
The plans were canceled about 30 years ago. It is only planned to build an A860 city tunnel Freiburg and to form a 4-laned B31 up to Hinterzarten. Estimated costs: 295.9 million € (city tunnel Freiburg) + 12.9 million € (2nd carriageway b/n Kirchzarten and Buchenbach) + 125.8 million € (Falkensteigtunnel) + 171.8 million € (Hirschsprungtunnel) + 224.1 million € (Hinterzarten bypass) = 830 million €. Total length: ~20km.

It is planned (since many years and with a very slow advance) to upgrade the B31 to 2+1 b/n Hinterzarten and Hüfingen (B27 west of A81). It was planned to use it as a 1st carriageway and building a 2nd carriageway was in the BVWP 2003 as further demand. This project was not submitted for the BVWP 2015 by the state again.

East of the A81 there are no plans for a direct connection but a 4-laned upgrade of the B31 b/n Überlingen and Friedrichshafen is still planned (the construction of the first section could be started in 2015). The 4-laned southern B30 was also submitted for the BVWP 2015. One 3.4km section is already u/c (July 2013 to 2018; plus a 2km 2-laned B467; total costs: 63 million €).

See state's presentation from November 2013: > click < (including some maps and lists with state's priorities).

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A Fernham-Cuxhaven Autobhan is also needed, to provide cross-links to the highways converging on HAmburg.
I guess you mean Fehmarn-Cuxhaven? There are no plans for a direct connection. The A20 b/n Westerstede (A28) and Bad Segeberg (A21) is planned. In addition the A26 b/n Stade (future A20) and Hamburg (A7/A1) is planned or already in construction. But w/o connection Stade-Cuxhaven. There is also a detour near Lübeck for the Fehmarn-Netherlands connection.
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Old April 7th, 2014, 08:34 PM   #6232
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A3 Würzburg

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The old overpass will be demolished this weekend (source). The new overpass costs 3.9 million €. The contract for the new viaduct "Talbrücke Heidingsfeld" was signed (costs: 71 million €; construction begin: Early July 2014).
The works were delayed by about 5 hours (some pics).

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Old April 7th, 2014, 08:36 PM   #6233
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A most-needed Autobahn is a Freiburg-Memmingën
Noone needs that monster. Upgrating the A98 corridor (Singen - Lindau) makes a lot more sense, but even there a autobahn would be bonkers.

A94 in the current planning is flawed and unneccessary as well. It would make sense if there would be a direct connection to the Austrian Innkreisautobahn (a Braunau - Ried bypass) because then it could segregate traffic to the Tauern from that to Linz and beyond and would relieve A8 from some traffic.
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The western part of the A94 is absolutely necessary. Austria refused an Autobahn on their territory thus Germany had to find a compromise.
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A14 Schwerin - Magdeburg

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New pics (taken b/n 16th and 23rd November 2013) are red marked: Schwerin - Grabow.
New pics (taken on 15th March 2014) are red marked: Groß Warnow - Karstädt.

Aerial pics (taken by © Bruno Becker on 4th September 2013) of AK Schwerin - AS Grabow section:










Aerial pics (taken by © Bruno Becker on 27th March 2014) of AS Colbitz - AS Wolmirstedt section:






Aerial pics (taken by © Bruno Becker on 27th March 2014) of AS Grabow:




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Old April 8th, 2014, 08:31 PM   #6238
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A14/A24 AK Schwerin

I forgot the latest pics of u/c AK Schwerin .

Taken by © Bruno Becker on 12th March 2014:


Taken by © Bruno Becker in late March 2014:





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Interesting, they took the old A241 towards Schwerin out of traffic completely.

How do they detour traffic from Schwerin to Berlin? The nearest exit on A14 north of AK Schwerin is at Schwerin itself, 20 km to the north.
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Via a temporary exit at L92 and A24 i/c Wöbbelin (OSM), see press release (current traffic routing from 19th August 2013 to December 2014).
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