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Old February 19th, 2008, 08:16 PM   #621
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Well, THAT is big:
http://www.autobahn-online.de/phorum...p?5,file=13735

But that's too big!
He-he, from the picture it seems to me this sign should have its own vertical clearance sign on it
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Old February 21st, 2008, 04:49 AM   #622
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Which autobahnen are planned or U/C at the moment? I know of a few around Hamburg, (A20, A26, A22) and the A14 between Schwerin and Magdenburg. Does anybody have a complete list or map with all planned stretches?
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Old February 21st, 2008, 05:06 AM   #623
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There's so much planned. Thousands of kilometers of widening to 6 or 8 lanes, and hundreds of kilometers of new stretches. But not that much currently u/c.
Not a list, but at Patrick's Autobahnatlas (www.autobahnatlas-online.de) you can find a nice map with all u/c and planned new stretches (planned widenings missing):
the map (pdf, 2.5MB)
legend (pdf, 80KB)
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Old February 21st, 2008, 09:24 AM   #624
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Yeah, except for some missing links, widening should have priority.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 02:09 PM   #625
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This map is very unclear. In my glossary "verworfen" means abandoned or put aside. But here it is confusing with real plannings, because there is very similar color and also there are many types of "verworfene Autobahnen" (in costruction, in planning, half-"made" etc). Any explanation?
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Old February 21st, 2008, 06:54 PM   #626
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Well, this map's focus is on Autobahns.
Some of the abandoned stretches are/were built, but not as Autobahn but as federal road or something else. That's why.
Stuttgart, for instance. There were so many Autobahns planned. But currently there's only the A8, A81 and the A831. Of the others, there are only the parts near Stuttgart finished, and they didn't get an A-number but a B-number (Bundesstraße = federal road), so they are actually just "gelbe Autobahns" and it's not planned to complete the whole stretch with motorway standard and rename it with an A-number.
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Old February 26th, 2008, 01:41 PM   #627
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Now riding through the hills of the Taunus range
I have kind of a traumatised memory of this spot. In 2006, when going on holiday to Italy (temperature: 36 celsius) we got stuck here due to a "LKW-Unfall bei der Baustelle" and we stood still here for about 3,5 hours. The only luck we had was that we stood next to a Lithuatian cool-transport truck, so it didn't get too hot. It took us 14 hours to drive from Abcoude (near Amsterdam) to Bad Tölz (south of Munich). Not really a pleasant memory
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Old February 27th, 2008, 12:20 PM   #628
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for those who speak german, here is a satirical video from a german broadcast "Extra3" about a family who lives under and interchange, because their children can play there because of the low amount of traffic there

ROFLMAO!

That's really funny.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 09:39 PM   #629
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btw:
http://www.autobahn-online.de/phorum/read.php?5,97867

the number of traffic deaths in 2007 is below 5000 persons, for the first time ever. but the general number of small accidents increased a bit.


btw2:
by sj1, owner of www.autobahn-bilder.de
see here, shiny new crashbarriers on the new L40n between Potsdam and southern Berlin
http://www.autobahn-online.de/phorum...p?5,file=11287

btw3:
damn, 4 trucks side by side, on A3 in Cologne.
http://www.autobahn-online.de/phorum...p?5,file=13742

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Old February 27th, 2008, 09:54 PM   #630
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Man you see those Reining trucks everywhere I once drove in one to Sweden

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but the general number of small accidents increased a bit.
The majority of insurance costs are from low-speed parking accidents.

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see here, shiny new crashbarriers on the new L40n between Potsdam and southern Berlin
I don't like crashbarriers on the shoulder-side of the road, if there is no necessity for. It's always safer to park your car half off the emergency lane in case of a breakdown.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 10:28 PM   #631
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Man you see those Reining trucks everywhere I once drove in one to Sweden



The majority of insurance costs are from low-speed parking accidents.



I don't like crashbarriers on the shoulder-side of the road, if there is no necessity for. It's always safer to park your car half off the emergency lane in case of a breakdown.
If the motorway is properly, the shoulders are wide enough for cars, buses and tracsk to park there man, like the Sruma motorway which I have to metnion here because it´s a feature not many motorways seem to have. Even were there are crashbarriers on the emergeny lane the shoulders are wide enough to park the car very savely,

Patrick, the crashbarriers are shiny, but unfortunately they have the typical german angular shape, I don´t like that shape, why aren´t they with the great shape, they would even be shinier then. Otherwise the motorway looks great.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 10:32 PM   #632
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parking is one thing, but what if you have to exit your car? Or if you have multiple persons in the car? You cannot open the door next to a crashbarrier. Or change a tire, while sitting 10cm from the driving lanes.

Besides that, the emergency lane is NEVER a safe place. If possible do not park your car on the shoulder, but on the banks next to it. Sometimes, trucks or cars don't pay attention and drive a little on the emergency lanes, and if you are parked there, you can say goodbye to your car, and probably your life too.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 10:36 PM   #633
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parking is one thing, but what if you have to exit your car? Or if you have multiple persons in the car? You cannot open the door next to a crashbarrier. Or change a tire, while sitting 10cm from the driving lanes.

Besides that, the emergency lane is NEVER a safe place. If possible do not park your car on the shoulder, but on the banks next to it. Sometimes, trucks or cars don't pay attention and drive a little on the emergency lanes, and if you are parked there, you can say goodbye to your car, and probably your life too.
Man, the Struma motorway shoulders are wide enough that you can change a tire, but you are apsolutely right that sometimes peopel are driving on them, for example when I travel on the Struma I see tracks driving on the emergeny line everytime I go to Sofia and return, I simply don´t understand that.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 10:36 PM   #634
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Old February 27th, 2008, 10:44 PM   #635
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If the motorway is properly, the shoulders are wide enough for cars, buses and tracsk to park there man, like the Sruma motorway which I have to metnion here because it´s a feature not many motorways seem to have. Even were there are crashbarriers on the emergeny lane the shoulders are wide enough to park the car very savely,

Patrick, the crashbarriers are shiny, but unfortunately they have the typical german angular shape, I don´t like that shape, why aren´t they with the great shape, they would even be shinier then. Otherwise the motorway looks great.
then you have to wait till i get back to trier and back home again, because the new barriers on the A48 on a renovated part between exit 2 ulmen and exit 3 laubach have your favorised shape and are damn shiny (at least they were one month ago ) (btw: opinions are always different, i prefer this style like on the L40n more )

@Chris: that always reminds on this well-known picture of the A8 (source):

fortunately that will be history in the future.

ps: another find in the autobahn jewel case
very old ddr-like sign on the A60 (source)
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Old February 27th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #636
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"then you have to wait till i get back to trier and back home again, because the new barriers on the A48 on a renovated part between exit 2 ulmen and exit 3 laubach have your favorised shape and are damn shiny (at least they were one month ago ) (btw: opinions are always different, i prefer this style like on the L40n more ) "

Then please take pics when you drive there next time, always like to see such things.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 02:39 AM   #637
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Thanks for the link to the map Rohne!

My favorite autobahn is definately the A9 from Berlin to Munchen.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 02:49 PM   #638
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I drive from Szczecin to Munchen 2-3 times every year.
A9 was also my favourite, but in the past i lost too much time in traffic jams. Once i saw 25 km line of cars on the opposite carriageway near Nurnberg. So now i prefer A93/A72/A4/A13. It's only 40 km more, and despite speed limits, travel gets faster.
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Old February 29th, 2008, 06:20 PM   #639
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damn, 4 trucks side by side, on A3 in Cologne.
http://www.autobahn-online.de/phorum...p?5,file=13742
Isn't some law in Germany (and elsewhere in Europe too), that trucks can occupy only 2 rightmost traffic lanes?
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Old February 29th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #640
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Erm...theoretically yes, if there are three ore more lanes. If there are two lanes they are allowed to overtake but the one on the left has to be significantly faster (I think they have around 30 seconds to overtake). But practically truck drivers often don't care...
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