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Old June 8th, 2014, 01:55 AM   #6501
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What is the longest tunnel in Germany ?
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The longest tunnel is probably the U7 in Berlin. This is a metro line, however. And I presume you are looking for road tunnels rather. The longest road tunnel in Germany is currently the Rennsteigtunnel (A 71). And with no tunnel project in sight that is longer than the 7'900 m of the Rennsteigtunnel, it could stay the longest road tunnel for decades to come.


Well that´s true but there is still the planned Fehmarnbelt Tunnel between Germany and Denmark whose construction should start next year.
This tunnel will be 18 km long but I don´t know how much of it will be on the German side.

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Old June 8th, 2014, 10:35 AM   #6502
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Old June 8th, 2014, 10:46 AM   #6503
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Well that´s true but there is still the planned Fehmarnbelt Tunnel between Germany and Denmark whose construction should start next year.
This tunnel will be 18 km long but I don´t know how much of it will be on the German side.
The Fehmarnbelt tunnel is not in Germany, it's between Germany and Denmark . The planned A20 Elbtunnel will be 6.5km long - shorter than the A71 Rennsteigtunnel.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 08:47 PM   #6504
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Bavarian concrete motorways are limited to 80 km/h because of (imaginary) damages
Most of the people drive over 110 though...
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Old June 9th, 2014, 12:57 AM   #6505
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Well that´s true but there is still the planned Fehmarnbelt Tunnel between Germany and Denmark whose construction should start next year.
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Old June 9th, 2014, 11:19 AM   #6506
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The future A26 will connect the future A20 with the A7 west of Hamburg and the A1 east of Hamburg.
The first of 8 sections is in service since October 2010. The A26 begins at AS Stade-South and ends at AS Horneburg (11.2km; 180 million €; OSM) Section 2 is u/c since summer 2006 (9.1km; OSM). Completion maybe in 2018.
Here some pics of the construction (taken by IOOI in April 2013):
The carriageway towards Stade on Section 2.1 (4.6km) will be opened for cars in December 2014. It will only be possible to drive by car etcetera (but not by truck) b/n i/c Jork and i/c Horneburg. After completion of section 2.2 from i/c Jork to i/c Buxtehude (4.5km) and section 3 b/n i/c Buxtehude and i/c Neu Wulmstorf (4.1km) in December 2020, section 2.1 will be entirely opened for traffic too. The works on section 2.1 and 2.2 have been started in summer 2006. The works on section 3 have been started in September 2013.

Some pics taken by IOOI on Saturday:

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Ich habe das schöne Wetter gestern genutzt und mal wieder die Baustelle der A26 befahren — mit dem Fahrrad. Dabei war ein deutlicher Fortschritt seit meinem letzten Besuch zu erkennen: Zwischen der AS Horneburg und der künftigen AS Jork liegt nun Asphalt, Richtung Stade meine ich sogar schon die Deckschicht. Dann ist aber erst einmal Schluss mit dem Ausbau, zwischen Jork und Buxtehude befindet sich nach wie vor in alter Schönheit der Vorbelastungsdamm. An dessen Ende kann man über die Este blicken — die geplante Brücke darüber hatte ja zu einigen Diskussionen geführt. Auf der anderen Seite der Este war erst einmal nicht viel zu erkennen, erst als ich näher rangefahren bin sah ich ein paar eigenartige Abzäunungen auf der Wiese stehen und in weiterer Ferne Baufahrzeuge. Nach einigem Hin und Her hab ich dann auch die Baustraße gefunden, welche seit Ende letzen Jahres in Bau sein soll. Diese bin ich dann abgefahren und werde sie anhand meines GPS Tracks dann auch gleich noch in OSM eintragen. Aber seht selbst. Die Bilder sind ebenfalls mit GPS-Daten versehen so dass Ihr sie auf einer Karte einordnen könnt.


AS Horneburg, Abfahrt aus Richtung Hamburg


AS Horneburg, Blick Richtung Horneburg/Stade


Blick Richtung Hamburg


Eine Brücke über einen der vielen Kanäle


Beide Fahrspuren, Blick Rictung Horneburg/Stade


Ein Wirtschaftsweg kreuzt. Diese Brücke ist mittlerweile auch fertig und unter Verkehr


Noch einmal aus der Nähe …


Brückenauffahrt


fast auf der Brücke


Blick von der Brücke Richtung Horneburg/Stade …


… und Richtung Hamburg


Die nördliche Brückenauffahrt


noch eine Kanalbrücke


AS Jork


AS Jork, Abfahrt Richtung Süden


AS Jork, Auffahrt aus Süden


Die K26 kreuzt.


AS Jork, gesehen von der anderen Seite


AS Jork, Auf und Abfahrt der nördlichen Fahrbahn


Ein paar Meter weiter endet der Asphalt …


… und der Vorbelastungsdamm geht weiter


Kanalbrücke, teilweise unter dem Vorbelastungsdamm verschüttet


die selbe Kanalbrücke.


hier wird ein weiterer Wirtschaftsweg kreuzen.


und dieses Brückchen für den Wirtschaftsweg ist auch neu.


die selbe Wirtschaftswegüberführung wie eben, gesehen aus Richtung Osten


Schon wieder eine Kanalbrücke …


… auch diese halb verschüttet.


und noch eine …


… nach vielen Jahren erobert sich die Natur zurück was noch gar nicht fertig ist.


Das Ende des Vorbelastungsdammes


aber kurz vor dem Ende des Dammes kommt noch ein Tunnel für einen Wirtschaftsweg.


andere Seite


Blick über die Este (zwischen den Bäumen) vom Ende des Vorbelastungsdammes.


Das Ende des Dammes von seinem Fuße aus gesehen.


Auf der anderen Seite der Este stehen ein paar eigenartige Zäune auf dem Feld.


Zäune. Baumaschinen in der Ferne.


und endlich die Baustraße über deren Bau so viel Aufhebens gemacht wurde.


Baustraße


Baustraße


zum Glück müssen die Arbeiter nicht aufs Feld k*cken


Baustraße mit Ballon


Das Ende der Baustraße im Bau


hier entsteht eine Behelfsbrücke …


… aber das dauert noch ein bisschen (wie fast alles hier)


hier quert ein Kanal, diese Fläche dient als vorbereitung für den Brückenbau (der Kanal wurde zeitweilig ein paar Meter verlegt)


selber Ort


Baustellenimpression


eines dieser Schilder deren Zweck ich nicht kenne


diese Rohre dienen dazu, die Kanäle unter der Baustraße hindurchzuleiten


Nummer 9 lebt!


Das Ende der Baustraße bei Rübke (L235)


später (in wieviel Jahren?) wird die Autobahn durch dieses Naturschutzgebiet führen. Noch haben die Wachtelkönige ihre Ruhe …
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Old June 9th, 2014, 11:11 PM   #6507
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Construction update of the Jagdberg Tunnel on the A4 near Jena.

The pictures were taken on 27.05.2014.

Just for comparison: Here are the pictures from the last construction update (17.04.2014).

















































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Old June 10th, 2014, 07:14 AM   #6508
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Well that´s true but there is still the planned Fehmarnbelt Tunnel between Germany and Denmark whose construction should start next year.
This tunnel will be 18 km long but I don´t know how much of it will be on the German side.
According to http://www.openstreetmap.org/ roughly a 1/3 of the length of the tunnel will be located within the German area, international area and Danish area each.

It's an interesting question which law is to be enforced within the international area. I'd guess it will be Danish, since the company in charge is 100 % owned by the Kingdom of Denmark anyway.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 12:59 PM   #6509
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It is very likely the longest 2x3 in Europe.
Other than at M6 J32 (where it goes down to two lanes northbound), it's 510km from Catthorpe to central Glasgow on the M6-M74 route - nearly 100km more than the A2 is long (A5 and A9 would beat it if they get finished). However parts are 2x4, which might rule it out, as might the silly numbering

You could, for a short while, drive from the M8/M77 junction in Glasgow south to Staples Corner in London with a lane either side of you all the way (of course, such middle lane hogging would earn you a lot of wrath from people). I believe, however, that the new bridge at Catthorpe is only 2 lanes, and northbound through the M55 junction hasn't been widened to 3 lanes.
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it's 510km from Catthorpe to central Glasgow on the M6-M74 route - nearly 100km more than the A2 is long
The A2 has a length of 473km.
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Old June 11th, 2014, 01:59 AM   #6511
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According to http://www.openstreetmap.org/ roughly a 1/3 of the length of the tunnel will be located within the German area, international area and Danish area each.

It's an interesting question which law is to be enforced within the international area. I'd guess it will be Danish, since the company in charge is 100 % owned by the Kingdom of Denmark anyway.
What you call the "international area" is entirely within the contiguous zones of Denmark and Germany (not shown by openstreetmap). Countries have limited rights to enforce their laws within their contiguous zones (less than in their own territory, but more than in their exclusive economic zones). I don't believe there has been any test case concerning whether or not a country may enforce traffic laws in its contiguous zone.
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The next step is to complete the data, remove duplicated and to merge projects. The evaluation (e.g. cost-benefit analysis) will start in the 2nd half-year 2014 and will last far into 2015. Afterwards, the projects will be categorized (priorities).
The traffic forecasting 2030 was published today. The forecast is the base for the BVWP cost-benefit analysis, see press release.

The forecast compares the traffic increase 2010 with 2030. The freight transportation will increase by 38% (ton-km), the passenger transportation will increase by 13% (passenger-km):
- Freight transport: Border-crossing traffic will increase by 42%, transit traffic by 52% and inland traffic by 31%. Railway + 43%, truck + 39%, inland waterway craft + 23%.
- The motorized passenger transportation will increase by 10% in spite of population decrease.
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The construction of the B535 Schwetzingen and Plankstadt bypass was started in February 2002. The first and the second stage were already opened in 2006, the third stage in December 2010. The second stage has only one carriageway, also all overpasses were built for one carriageway. All other stages have two carriageways, but the construction of the 2nd carriageway for the 2nd stage have also started in the meantime. The overpasses must be replaced (OSM). It will be completed in 2015 (see press release; official project page). The B535 bypass is similar with the route of the formerly planned A655.
The Regional Administrative Authority Karlsruhe and the Deutsche Bahn finally agreed after years that the new overpass can be replaced. The bidding shall begin as soon as possible. The completion of the B535 Schwetzingen bypass is delayed until mid 2016. Source.
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The next two plan approval orders are challenged (among others by BUND):
- AS Lüderitz to Dolle (12.5km; 72.6 million €)
- Dolle to AS Colbitz (10.8km; 77 million €)
The BVerwG trials will be in 2014. It is planned to build both section in common.
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The court decision (for Dolle-Colbitz) was published on 8th January. The plan approval order (signed in December 2012) is illegal and not executable, see press release.
The problems can be fixed with an additional plan approval procedure.
The trial for the A14 Lüderitz-Dolle section will not took place soon. The Federal Administrative Court wants to wait until the Dolle-Colbitz plan approval order is legal. A groundbreaking before 2017 is unlikely. Source.

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The first 16.2km long section from AK Schwerin to AS Ludwigslust-Süd is currently under construction (140 million €). The works have started in November 2012 and are estimated to be completed end of 2015.
The next 9.8km section to AS Groß Warnow has building law. The plan-approval order was passed in November 2012. The construction is expected to start in 2014.
The planned groundbreaking in 2015 is timing at risk. The Bund gave an agreement to provide funds but it has not yet provided the construction sum of 88 million €. Speaker of Federal Ministry of Transort: not yet decided. The negotiations will start after the Federal budget 2014 is passed. If the funds will not be available in 2014, the preliminary works of the Ludwigslust-Groß Warnow section cannot be started till 2016.

In general, only 25% of the A14 funds are available. 3 of 16 sections are u/c. The A14 alignment at the river Elbe crossing is not yet found. The government still want to complete the A14 until 2020. EU funding is also scheduled. Source.
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Old June 14th, 2014, 10:12 PM   #6516
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B 9, Bonn - Koblenz

Here is a pretty interesting stretch of B 9 national road located alongside Rhein river. It consists of some urban and extra urban bits including motor vehicles only sections.

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The A1 from Leverkusen to Köln (OSM) was closed for trucks some weeks ago. The Rhine viaduct is decrepit and must be renewed. The new viaduct shall be widened to 2x4 lanes. There are discussions to built a tunnel below the Rhine instead of a new viaduct. There are also discussions regarding alternative viaducts to the south or to the north of the current A1 viaduct. Also a housing tunnel instead of the stilt brigdes in Leverkusen is proposed.
Some info about the A1 Rhine crossing b/n Leverkusen and Cologne.

The Federal Minister of Transport Peter Ramsauer visited the bridge last week: > click < (with pics).

Estimated time schedule:
- 2016 plan approval order
- 2020 completion of the northern bridge
- 2023 completion of the southern bridge (after demolition of the old one)

Costs: 220 million €.

The bridge was closed for vehicles > 3,5t for 92 days (December 2012 to March 2013). The economic harm was 80 million €.
There is a presentation about the upgrade plans of the Cologne beltway: http://www.ihk-koeln.de/upload/Vortr...erzt_33391.pdf.

The focus is on the replacement of the A1 Rhine bridge, which includes an upgrade to 2x4 lanes b/n i/c Cologne-Niehl and i/c AK Leverkusen (A3).

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Page 2: The AADT is about 120,000 vehicles/day on the northern (13% truck share), western (16% truck share) and southern beltway (10% truck share). The AADT on the eastern beltway is about 170,000 vehicles/day (10% truck share).
Page 5&6: Reconstruction of the i/c AK Cologne-West (A1/A4). completion: 2016.
Page 7: The A1 b/n i/c Bocklemünd and i/c AK Cologne-North (A1/A57) is currently u/c. The section gets hard shoulders until spring 2015.
Page 8: The works for the A3 upgrade b/n i/c Leverkusen and i/c Cologne-Mühlheim will start in late 2014. The Autobahn will be widened to 2x4 lanes until early 2017.
Page 9: Some minor works at the i/c AK Leverkusen (A1/A3) will be done in summer and fall 2014 (bracing? of the bridge).

Page 10 to 26: Replacement of the A1 Rhine bridge and 2x4 upgrade of the A1 b/n Cologne-Niehl and i/c AK Leverkusen including the replacement of i/c AK Leverkusen-West (A59) and i/c AK Leverkusen (A3) plus the 2x4 widening b/n i/c AK Leverkusen and i/c Leverkusen.
Page 20: The A1 is planned to feature 2x4 lanes continuously. There will be 5 lanes for each direction on the Rhine bridge.
Page 25: The replacement of the bridge shall start in 2017. The first bridge shall be completed until 2020.

The BVWP 2015 proposal list contains a lot of projcts around Cologne. It is planned to upgrade the entire beltway (total length: ~52km) to 2x4 lanes, except the recently upgraded section b/n AK Cologne-West (A4) and AK Cologne-North (A57); ~9km.
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A1 Rhine bridge b/n Cologne and Leverkusen

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The bridge was closed for vehicles > 3.5t for 92 days (December 2012 to March 2013). The economic harm was 80 million €.
The A1 Rhine bridge will be closed for vehicles > 3.5t again. The closure begins at midnight. There are too much vibrations. The speed limit was already reduced to 60km/h (including speed control). Source.

I guess the existing damages have been checked today at which they've found aggravation.
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