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Old February 29th, 2008, 09:26 PM   #641
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In NL, it's a traffic offense if an overtaking action takes more than 2 minutes. I think there is something similar in Germany.
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Old March 1st, 2008, 12:15 AM   #642
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2 minutes? A bit long. So it means, that (if relative overtaking distance is around 70 metres = 2x length of truck with trailer + safety distance), that overtaking vehicle can be only 2 km/h faster than overtaken one.
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Old March 1st, 2008, 09:38 AM   #643
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In NL, it's a traffic offense if an overtaking action takes more than 2 minutes. I think there is something similar in Germany.
Is that really a rule here? I never heard of it.
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Old March 1st, 2008, 10:00 AM   #644
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In NL, it's a traffic offense if an overtaking action takes more than 2 minutes. I think there is something similar in Germany.
I don't think that there is something like that regulated by law. It's just that after this time other drivers get really pissed off
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Old March 1st, 2008, 10:57 AM   #645
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Is that really a rule here? I never heard of it.
Then, article 5 goes into effect. I once saw that on the police-program "blik op de weg". (tin-on-the-road).
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Old March 1st, 2008, 11:17 AM   #646
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I would say "view-on-the-road", Chris.


Yesterday I came back with the nighttrain from Vienna, and between Koblenz and Bonn, along the western Rhine bank, there is a "Gelbe Autobahn", no. 9
To me it just looked like a normal autobahn, only the lanes seemed to be a bit narrower, like on the Polish S-roads (and sorry I went off-topic)
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Old March 1st, 2008, 02:52 PM   #647
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In Germany a gelbe autobahn can function on the same way as a blue one. The rules are the same, I thought. Btw, that B9 is a nice scenic drive.
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yes, but there can be traffic lights etc. At least around Frankfurt.
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Old March 1st, 2008, 03:21 PM   #649
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As far as i know, Gelbe Autobahnen do not have traffic lights. They are the same as Autobahnen, but they have yellow signage, because it's a Bundesstraße.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelbe_Autobahn
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Old March 1st, 2008, 04:07 PM   #650
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As far as i know, Gelbe Autobahnen do not have traffic lights. They are the same as Autobahnen, but they have yellow signage, because it's a Bundesstraße.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelbe_Autobahn
It actually does have traffic lights on some spots, but there are only a few.

@Jeroen669: it is indeed a scenic route, also from the train. Unfortunately it was raining and the clouds were hangning very low (not as low as fog, so I could at least see anything). When I passed this place on my way to Vienna it was around 10 PM, so I didn't see a lot.....
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Old March 1st, 2008, 08:36 PM   #651
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It actually does have traffic lights on some spots, but there are only a few.
Those sections aren't counted to the "Gelbe Autobahnen". Only sections with Autobahn standards are.
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Old March 1st, 2008, 11:18 PM   #652
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Ok, that might be, but it was a 2×2 section (up to app. 10 km continually), and it was definately not a blue autobahn, so why wouldn't it be a Gelbe Autobahn?
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Old March 1st, 2008, 11:29 PM   #653
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That is just an ordinary main road without motorway characteristics. Like the N230 in Utrecht, Groningen ringroad or the N11 near Alphen aan den Rijn (Dutch examples)
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Old March 1st, 2008, 11:31 PM   #654
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Yeah, could be. It just seemed a Gelbe Autobahn to me: 2×2, and only one number (9, and not something like 382)
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Old March 2nd, 2008, 01:41 AM   #655
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not a bad idea

btw: I took some pictures of the Schnellstraßen around Koblenz/Neuwied/Andernach, limited to 50/70/100/120 because the roads are near built-up areas

B9 northbound


all pics here and here

B9 southbound


all pics here and here

B256 westbound
here

B256 eastbound
here

Thanks go to the owner of the Autobahnatlas for hosting them
@Timon Kruijk:
There you can find my pics of the B9. The section which is four-laned and without same-level-crossings, even in the city-center, is nearly 30km long.

oh, and btw:
here are some pics of the B49, also in Koblenz:
Eastbound

Westbound

in the background you can see the B327 which is partly 2+2, too.


hosted at www.autobahnatlas-online.de

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Old March 2nd, 2008, 09:47 AM   #656
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Thanks, this was indeed the section I remembered. The train runs next to it for a few miles.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 04:24 PM   #657
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Does anyone know what kind of prices the hotels have on an Autohof?
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Old March 6th, 2008, 09:11 PM   #658
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A decent cloverleaf requires parallel lanes for the weaving process imo. So the through lanes don't get disturbed because of the weaving. The problem with most cloverleafs is, that the weaving lanes are very short, usually no more than 100 - 200 m, which can be difficult to negotiate in heavy traffic. Busy interchanges should better have fly-overs.
here mare some pics of a cloverleaf in Neuwied am Rhein, only a few months old (the pics, not the interchange ):




edit: i'm sorry, can't answer the autohof-question.

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Old March 9th, 2008, 09:24 PM   #659
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lol, in this sign, pic taken by ABRob on www.autobahnen-europa.eu, it seems that Usti, CZ is in Germany

http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg
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Old March 9th, 2008, 09:39 PM   #660
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lol, in this sign, pic taken by ABRob on www.autobahnen-europa.eu, it seems that Usti, CZ is in Germany

http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg
A bit ambiguous...
Well, the sign is after the border crossing, so it's obvious that it can't be in Germany.

But on the Mileage signs before, Prague is German:
http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg
http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg
http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg
http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg
http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg
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