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Old July 16th, 2014, 10:37 PM   #6761
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In the summer of 2012 i drove A8 between Saarbrucken and Luxembourg border and found that there was a little stretch of around 4Km that was 2+1 road instead of autobahn. I have checked Michelin maps, Google maps and other maps and all give that stretch as a motorway.

the stretch is here
start http://goo.gl/maps/UdhM9
end http://goo.gl/maps/Vo4fT

i wonder if:

are there more stretch like this in german network?
is this stretch an autobahn or not in the total mileage count?
why of this anomaly in the network?
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Old July 16th, 2014, 10:56 PM   #6762
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Yes, it is an Autobahn and there are and were more like that, e.g. A60 and A62. Why? I don't know. I've also checked the German forum, no info. Probably lack of money (two viaducts) and a low predicted AADT! The AADT was only about 22,000 vehicles/day in 2010 (~10,000 in 2000) but the section is an accident hot spot. That's why it is planned to build the 2nd carriageway, construction could maybe begin in 2015 or 2016... The upgrade will cost at minimum 40 million €.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 11:06 PM   #6763
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Yes, look for A 60 and A 62.

A 60 is substandard between Winterspelt and Prüm, as is the A 62 between Bann and Pirmasens.

Welcome to Germany, the Fatherland of the one-laned Autobahn.

Not to mention the facts that the same number can refer to different autobahns: A 8 can be Luxembourg - Primasens, or Karlsruhe - Munich, or Munich - Salzburg. The A 4 runs from Aachen to Olpe, but also from Bad Hersfeld to Görlitz. The above mentioned A 60 also got its twin, running from Bingen to Rüsselsheim. Historical reasons, unbuilt stretches, of course, but one still wonders.

On the other hand, the stretch of the A 48 between Luxembourg and Trier has been renamed as A 64. Not that it got a decent connection to the rest of the network, though. And I won't start about the lack of a sufficient autobahn network in the state of Baden-Württemberg...

Edit: MichiH was the the faster one.
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Old July 16th, 2014, 11:52 PM   #6764
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A6 had bad pavement (old noisy concrete) near Manheim. Have they fixed that?
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Old July 18th, 2014, 06:39 PM   #6765
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A30 Bad Oeynhausen

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A 1.6 km stretch of A30 opened to provisional traffic today. It's a short stretch north of Bad Oeynhausen that runs from L772 to K29 (new B61?) There's one lane each way for the time being. It doesn't connect to other parts of A30 yet, so through traffic still has to go through the city of Bad Oeynhausen for the time being.

And I drove it today!
Yes, opened this morning. Some pics: > click <.
Bad news: The completion of the A30 bypass is postponed. Straßen.NRW hopes to open it in early 2017.
The official aim is to get the entire A30 Bad Oeynhausen bypass into service in 2016 (I guess late 2016): source.
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Old July 19th, 2014, 02:07 PM   #6766
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http://www.welt.de/regionales/muench...enzkreise.html

The Bavarian Minister of the Interior, Mr. Herrmann (CSU party) claims to exclude the districts from the car toll, which are close to the borders to Czech Republic, Austria and Switzerland.

That means, the A8/A93 b/n Salzburg and Kufstein would not be tolled .
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Old July 19th, 2014, 02:24 PM   #6767
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Nutheads. Their main argument for years was that it would be especially fair to toll the millions of Austrians using that motorway. And now he's chickening out.
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Old July 19th, 2014, 02:39 PM   #6768
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The Bavarian Minister of the Interior, Mr. Herrmann (CSU party) claims to exclude the districts from the car toll, which are close to the borders to Czech Republic, Austria and Switzerland.

That means, the A8/A93 b/n Salzburg and Kufstein would not be tolled .
So. The "Maut für Ausländer" does not have any sense in this case.
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Old July 19th, 2014, 10:45 PM   #6769
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The A44 section b/n i/c Hessisch Lichtenau-West and i/c Hessisch Lichtenau-Center will finally be opened on 24th July 2014. Source.
Google Earth imagery shows they already started working on Hessisch Lichtenau-West interchange in or before 2001, but it was left untouched until at least 2008 (next available imagery).
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Old July 20th, 2014, 02:41 AM   #6770
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The A 57 between the Dutch border at Goch (A 77) and Kleve (B 9) had to be closed on Saturday due to damage to the road surface because of the heat. Temperatures went up to 35C/95F in the region yesterday. The road has been opened again after midnight.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 06:34 PM   #6771
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Rheinische Post has some photos of the repair of A57 near Goch:

http://www.rp-online.de/nrw/panorama...-bid-1.4398743

Dutch media are so ignorant, they all translated "damage due to heat", into "melted asphalt" without further fact-checking. German media correctly reported that it was actually buckled concrete.
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Old July 21st, 2014, 10:07 PM   #6772
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There are a record 366 road work zones on German Autobahns this summer, according to the Bild am Sonntag. Most of them are in NRW (115) and Bavaria (88).

http://www.focus.de/finanzen/news/wi...d_4004039.html
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Old July 21st, 2014, 10:27 PM   #6773
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A20 Elbtunnel

Media says that the Federal Court of Auditors ("Bundesrechnungshof") expects that the costs for for building the A20 Elbtunnel west of Hamburg have raised from 1.3 to 1.5 billion €. The Schlewsig-Holstein Minster of Transport says that the appropriate road authority will make the first authoritative calculation until end of 2014. The 2008 calculation estimated 813 million €.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 02:56 PM   #6774
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Experts discovered that another large bridge on the A45 is so much kaputt that a simple strengtening isn´t enough and a total replacement is necessary.

It´s the Rahmedetalbrücke near Meinerzhagen. The construction of the new bridge should begin in 2018.

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Old July 22nd, 2014, 03:34 PM   #6775
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Why are so many A45 bridges in need of replacement?
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 03:39 PM   #6776
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A45 became a heavy truck corridor from the Ruhr to southeastern Europe. Most of A45's bridges were built between 1966 and 1971. At some locations, shoulders were converted to driving lanes, increasing traffic load. The bridges cannot take this amount of trucks. Note that a single truck damages a bridge the same as 60,000-something cars.

Quite a number of A45 bridges have weight and speed restrictions, and in some cases, also requiring 50 meters of distance between trucks in case of a traffic jam.

On the Hessen side of A45 alone, 22 bridges need to be replaced, and many are large bridges that span valleys. This costs billions of euros.
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:01 PM   #6777
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A524 Duisburg

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I passed there last week. The 2nd A524 carriageway is still not existing (but some works are ongoing) west of the i/c Duisburg-Rahm. The traffic is using the southern carriageway 2x1. I've found a source which refers a completion in fall 2014.
Both A524 carriageways within the i/c Duisburg-South are in service now. It's 1+1 now, I guess since early July (the northern carriageway was not yet in service on 2nd July but on 8th July). The left lanes are still blocked b/c the fundament for the signage must be done. It is planned to open it 2x2 in about one month. The remaining u/c ramps of the i/c will be opened in late September 2014. News article (8th July).
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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:16 PM   #6778
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A45 became a heavy truck corridor from the Ruhr to southeastern Europe. Most of A45's bridges were built between 1966 and 1971. [....]

On the Hessen side of A45 alone, 22 bridges need to be replaced, and many are large bridges that span valleys. This costs billions of euros.
Plus, of course, the salt. A45 runs through the Sauerland. A region with a lot of snow and long winters (at least as compared to the neighbouring parts of Germany). Some bridges even have automatic salt spraying systems.

I do not think that withstanding today´s heavy use of salt on motorways was a design criteria for bridges constructed in the 60s.

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Old July 22nd, 2014, 09:43 PM   #6779
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The A2 b/n Hannover and Berlin has also damage due to the heat. The 3 lanes are closed between Wollin and Ziesar, only the hard shoulder is used (source).
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A9 and A14 as well according to MDR.

http://www.mdr.de/sachsen-anhalt/hit...-ae30b3e4.html
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