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Old March 9th, 2008, 09:56 PM   #661
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i meant it also just because of the placement of the cz-symbol behind prag/praha. they should better put it in the same line like the road numbers then or just left out at all

and, why is there a german sign instead of a green czech one when its behind the border?
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Old March 9th, 2008, 10:28 PM   #662
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We write it twice, and in such case we put it in the middle.
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Old March 9th, 2008, 11:06 PM   #663
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and what if you'd have three destinations there?
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Old March 9th, 2008, 11:58 PM   #664
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I thought Mülhausen was a German city.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 12:57 AM   #665
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i meant it also just because of the placement of the cz-symbol behind prag/praha. they should better put it in the same line like the road numbers then or just left out at all
Well, the problem is, that there are no real rules for signposting foreign cities. The German directive for signposts only mange the notation of foreign cities, so the use of this "country-eggs" is not required.

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and, why is there a german sign instead of a green czech one when its behind the border?
It's behind the border crossing, not behind the border itself.
With border crossing I meant the "Grenzübergangsstelle" - this one:
http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg

The border itself is 4.8 km behind this - and looks like this:
http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg
near the bus

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I thought Mülhausen was a German city.
Well, it was German until 1918
It's the German notation for Mulhouse.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 02:00 AM   #666
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Patrick, what happened with the pis of shiny crashbarriers?
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Old March 10th, 2008, 02:09 AM   #667
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And then the people here complain at the Struma motorway exits.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 02:17 AM   #668
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thx, abrob for the explanation
but then again why is the crossing so far away from the real border? relief?
@radi: i still have semester break and won't drive to trier before april. and this exit is at least 30 years old
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Old March 10th, 2008, 02:34 AM   #669
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A4 near Eisenach:
That section of autobahn appears to just have a layer of asphalt over the original Reichsautobahn. (no paved shoulder, etc.)

I was under the impression that the autobahn system in the old DDR was entirely rebuilt and upgraded after 1990.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 02:40 AM   #670
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well, the A4 near Eisenach gets a totally new route for ca 20km to bypass the Hörselberge hills, because the Hörselberge there are too steep with 6% and more for nowadays rules and have ecological values. and they'll get 3 lanes per direction with shoulder of course.

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Old March 10th, 2008, 03:27 AM   #671
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What will happen with present A4 in Eisenach then? Will it become urban motorway A4a (or other 3 digit number) or will it be degraded to B road?
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Old March 10th, 2008, 05:39 AM   #672
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first they'll built just the roadway s3+0, finish in 2009, but use it as 2+2, it will take until 2010/11 until it is totally finished as s3+3s. that is because they will use some of the old materials from the eastern part through the hills which will be deconstructed. the western part in Eisenach will be degraded to the B7.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 11:23 AM   #673
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And then the people here complain at the Struma motorway exits.
Yeah, a lot of German exits are like this, very outdated. But that's because the whole motorway network is quite old.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 07:33 PM   #674
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but then again why is the crossing so far away from the real border? relief?
Yes, relief and nature.
The border itself is on a bridge ("Grenzbrücke Schönwalder Bach") and the nature arund the border is under protection. Thats also the reason for the Tunnel shortly before the border:
http://www.autobahnen-europa.eu/seri...7-09-17_RS.jpg
There are living protected bats in this area.
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Old March 10th, 2008, 07:35 PM   #675
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a lot? let's say less than 3% of all exits...

@ abrob: thanks for the explanation again

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And then the people here complain at the Struma motorway exits.
Then again, noone's saying this is the best motorway in Europe
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Old March 13th, 2008, 05:09 PM   #677
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This is A11 between exits Schmölln and Kreuz Uckermark. Speed limit is 100 km/h, my sister drove 90 km/h. I don't think you can find something like this anywhere else in Germany.

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Funny video, i remember being "seasick" on the A13 Berlin - Dresden like 6 years ago.
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Well, the A8 between Rosenheim and the Austrian border is not much better.
OK, maybe not as bumpy as the A11 but the amount of traffic it has to cope with it's really bad
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This is A11 between exits Schmölln and Kreuz Uckermark. Speed limit is 100 km/h, my sister drove 90 km/h. I don't think you can find something like this anywhere else in Germany.

Again, that looks like one of those old Reichsautobahnen. I assume that's in the old DDR?
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