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Old July 26th, 2014, 09:18 PM   #6801
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You can find a lot of background information here: http://www.autobahn-online.de/ehem/a45.html

It was planned to extend all the way to A8 at Kirchheim unter Teck, east of Stuttgart.
It was in the demand plan from 1969 to 1979. The project is dead for 35 years now..................

We will not get any new Autobahn which is not yet in the BVWP.
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Old July 26th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #6802
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What I'd be interested in is a good reliable link from Saarbrücken to Munich avoiding Stuttgart. It would save me a lot of hours and stress.
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Old July 27th, 2014, 12:12 AM   #6803
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That route is approx 60 km longer then via Stuttgart. They signpost that route for a reason I don't quite understand.
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Old July 27th, 2014, 11:22 AM   #6804
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You can find a lot of background information here: http://www.autobahn-online.de/ehem/a45.html

It was planned to extend all the way to A8 at Kirchheim unter Teck, east of Stuttgart.
Actually it would be so far good enough to built this A45 from Kirchheim A8 to the A6 and widen the nasty A61 to 3 lanes up to Cologne.
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Old July 27th, 2014, 11:23 AM   #6805
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No. It is not planned to build any new road there (since more than 30 years)!
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Old July 27th, 2014, 11:48 AM   #6806
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29th July 2014: B327 Kastellaun bypass (4.7km; OSM; u/c since August 2011)
29th July 2014: B256 Kruft bypass (3.5km; OSM; u/c since December 2009)

2nd August 2014: A8 2x3 widening b/n Adelsried and Neusäß (8.2km; OSM; u/c since August 2011)
August 2014: B243 Bad Lauterberg - Bad Sachsa (8.6km; OSM; u/c since October 2008; 2x2)
26th August 2014: B28 Oberkirch and Lautenbach bypass (4.5km; OSM; u/c since May 2007)
28th August 2014: A1 2x3 widening b/n AK Münster-South (A43) and Dortmund-Ems-Canal bridge (3.2km; OSM; u/c since October 2012)

13th September 2014: A66 Neuhof-South - Neuhof-North (4.6km; OSM; u/c since October 2005; 2x2)
13th September 2014: B25 Wallerstein and Ehringen bypass (3.6 km; OSM; u/c since June 2013; partial 2+1)
17th September 2014: A4 Düren - Kerpen [direction Cologne] (11.6km; OSM; u/c since September 2008; 1x3)
20th September 2014: A4 Düren - Kerpen [direction Aachen] (11.6km; OSM; u/c since September 2008; 2x3)
Until Mid September 2014: A8 2x3 widening b/n Günzburg and west of Burgau (7.3km; OSM; u/c since August 2011)
Until Mid September 2014: A8 2x3 widening b/n east of Burgau and Zusmarshausen (5.7km; OSM; u/c since August 2011)
Mid September 2014: B255 Niederahr - Oberahr (2.3km; OSM; u/c since July 2007)
September 2014: A4 Magdala - Jena-Göschwitz (11.8km; OSM; u/c since May 2007; 2x3)
September 2014: B85 2+1 widening b/n March and Metten (1.5km; OSM; u/c since August 2013)
September 2014: B521 Nidderau bypass, 1st section (1.7km; OSM; u/c since September 2009)
September 2014: A62 2nd carriageway b/n south of Weselberg to Schwarzbach viaduct (3.6km; OSM; u/c since September 2013)
September 2014: B41 2x2 widening Ingelheim-West (A60) - Ingelheim (0.7km; OSM; u/c since September 2013)
Late September 2014: A281 Bremen-Seehausen - Bremen-Strom (4.1km; OSM; u/c since April 2009; 2x2)
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Old July 27th, 2014, 02:36 PM   #6807
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No. It is not planned to build any new road there (since more than 30 years)!
I know. I just wanted to express some of my dreams.

Anyway i would be also somehow satisfied with an A9 5+5 from Munich to Pfaffenhofen, 4+4 to Hallertau and 4+4 from Nurnberg to Erlangen and of course 3+3 to Wurzburg.
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Old July 27th, 2014, 02:55 PM   #6808
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Anyway i would be also somehow satisfied with an A9 5+5 from Munich to Pfaffenhofen,
Not planned.

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4+4 to Hallertau
Planned (temporary shoulder running in service / u/c)

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and 4+4 from Nurnberg to Erlangen
Only planned on A9 b/n A6 and A3.

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and of course 3+3 to Wurzburg.
The entire A3 b/n Nuremberg and Aschaffenburg will be upgraded (partial 4+3). Aschaffenburg - Würzbug should be completed until 202x (officially until fall 2019), Würzburg - Nuremberg will be upgraded afterwards (I guess until 203x).
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Old July 27th, 2014, 05:57 PM   #6809
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This 203x schedule for the A3 between Würzburg and Erlangen is pure madness. At that time the complete A3 down to Passau should be 3+3. Heavy truck traffic is just insane on the entire A3.


And i doubt if the 4+4 A9 to Pfaffenhofen is enough for the year 2025 or even now.

Have you updated info about A92 3+3 between Feldmoching and Neufarn?
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Old July 27th, 2014, 06:48 PM   #6810
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This 203x schedule for the A3 between Würzburg and Erlangen is pure madness.
Well, that's not the official info, it's just what I suppose. PPP was proposed too.

Here's a news article (7th June). The vice president of the road authority (ABDNB), Mr. Arndt, said that AB-WÜ should be completed until 2018, but this article (8th July) quotes the construction supervisor, Mr. Ehmke, that the Heidingsfeld section should be "completed until fall 2019". Well, the first article also quotes Mr. Arndt "no improvement on the Würzburg - Fürth/Erlangen section this decade".

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At that time the complete A3 down to Passau should be 3+3. Heavy truck traffic is just insane on the entire A3.
The new BVWP 2015 (valid for 2015 to 2030) will not contain that project. The preliminary proposal list does only contain a 2x3 widening b/n Nittendorf and Rosenhof (24km around Regensburg) and AK Deggendorf - Hengersberg (9km) of the entire 225km section b/n Nuremberg and the Austrian border. The plan approval procedure of the 14km section b/n AK Regensburg and Rosenhof was announced to be started in 2014. I guess the two additional sections will get further demand (2030-2045).

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And i doubt if the 4+4 A9 to Pfaffenhofen is enough for the year 2025 or even now.
Yep, but there are many "urgent" projects. It is not proposed for the BVWP 2015, so the planning process will not be started until 2045 (but there's a paragraph called "unpredictable demand" which could allow an earlier planning start). The Federal Ministry of Transport has recently assured that the proposal list contain are relevant projects to eliminate all known bottlenecks:

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Have you updated info about A92 3+3 between Feldmoching and Neufarn?
The "unpredictable demand" was approved in December 2005. The preliminary design (Vorentwurf) was announced to be corrected until spring 2011. The latest info on the page of the road authority (ABDSB) is from January 2010: > click<.

I've googled now and found a presentation of the ABDSB from November 2013 which says that the preliminary design was approved by the Federal Ministry of Transport in July 2013, the documents for the plan approval procedure are prepared now.

My supposed schedule (best case scenario): plan approval procedure will begin in (late 2014/)2015, the order will be passed in 2018, groundbreaking 202x.

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Old July 27th, 2014, 09:54 PM   #6811
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The new BVWP 2015 (valid for 2015 to 2030) will not contain that project. The preliminary proposal list does only contain a 2x3 widening b/n Nittendorf and Rosenhof (24km around Regensburg) and AK Deggendorf - Hengersberg (9km) of the entire 225km section b/n Nuremberg and the Austrian border. The plan approval procedure of the 14km section b/n AK Regensburg and Rosenhof was announced to be started in 2014. I guess the two additional sections will get further demand (2030-2045).




I would still love to see this for the north of Munich.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 12:12 AM   #6812
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I would still love to see this for the north of Munich.
Isn't completion of A99 more important?
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Old July 29th, 2014, 04:33 PM   #6813
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New cable-stayed bridge across a railroad in Raunheim (just west of Frankfurt). It will open in early 2015.

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Old July 29th, 2014, 10:12 PM   #6814
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29th July 2014: B327 Kastellaun bypass (4.7km; OSM; u/c since August 2011)
29th July 2014: B256 Kruft bypass (3.5km; OSM; u/c since December 2009)
Happened, see press release.

The costs of the Kastellaun bypass are 23 million € instead of 29 million €. The costs of the Kruft bypass are 18 million €.

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Late September 2014: A281 Bremen-Seehausen - Bremen-Strom (4.1km; OSM; u/c since April 2009; 2x2)
Seems to be opened on 29th September 2014.
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Old July 29th, 2014, 10:40 PM   #6815
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Approved funding / upcoming groundbreaking

Media announced that the funding of some projects is backed:

- A3 2x3 (4+3) widening near Wertheim (8.5km; OSM; 77 million €; plan approval order: February 2007; groundbreaking: March 2015; source)
- A14 2x2 Grabow - Groß Warnow (9.8km; OSM; 88 million €; plan approval order: December 2012; groundbreaking: 2015; source)
- B2 2x2 Oberau bypass (4.2km; OSM; 165 million €; plan approval order: February 2010; groundbreaking: Spring 2015; source)
- B3 2x2/2+1 Hemmingen bypass (7.5km; OSM; 50 million €; plan approval order: September 2004; groundbreaking: 2015?; source)
- B29 2x2 Mögglingen bypass (6.9km; OSM; 67 million €; plan approval order: September 1999; groundbreaking: Late 2014; source)
- B31 2x2 ImmenstaadFriedrichshafen (7.1km; OSM; 97 million €; plan approval order: June 2008; groundbreaking: Early 2015; source)
- B300 2x2 widening Dasing - Aichach (4-5km; OSM; 22 million €; plan approval order: April 2009; groundbreaking: Fall 2014; source)

All announced projects are motorway, motorway-like or partial motorway-like (B3 only).

2 projects are in Bavaria
2 projects are in Baden-Württemberg
1 project is in Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg
1 project is in Lower Saxony
1 project is in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

Edit: one non-motorway project (Lower Saxony; 60km away from Zwolle ):
- B213/B403 Nordhorn bypass (8.5km; OSM; 32 million €; plan approval order: May 2011; groundbreaking: "soon"; source)
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Old July 30th, 2014, 10:22 PM   #6816
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Approved funding / upcoming groundbreaking

More projects seem to be backed:

- A3 2x4 widening AS Leverkusen - AS Köln-Mülheim (~4.5km; OSM; ? million €; plan approval order: January 2012; groundbreaking: Early 2015; source)
- A43 2x3 widening AS Recklinghausen/Herten – AK Herne (~7km; OSM; 166 million €; plan approval order: April 2013; groundbreaking: Late 2014; source; expected court hearing: 2015)
- A72 2x2 AS Rötha – AK Leipzig (7.2km; OSM; 100 million €; plan approval order: December 2013; groundbreaking: 2016(preliminary works will begin earlier); source)
- B51/B481 2x2/2+1 Münster bypass [L587/K7 - L793] (6.3km; OSM; 42 million €; plan approval order: September 2011; groundbreaking: 2015; source; expected court hearing: Late 2014)
- B271 Kirchheim bypass (3.4km; OSM; 20 million €; plan approval order: February 2009; groundbreaking: 2015; source)

In addition, the final funding of two already u/c projects seems be backed now:

- A26 2x2 Buxtehude - Neu Wulmstorf (4.1km; OSM; 99 million €; plan approval order: June 2012; groundbreaking: September 2013; source)
- B15n 2x2 Ergoldsbach - Essenbach (9.0km; OSM; 115 million €; plan approval order: December 2011; groundbreaking: August 2013; source)

The funding is provided by the federal 2014 budget (passed on 18th July). In addition, the funding is backed by a general funding plan 2014-2018 (passed on 2nd July).

3 projects are in NRW
1 project is in Saxony
1 project is in Rhinland-Palatinate
1 project is in Lower Saxony
1 project is in Bavaria
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Old July 30th, 2014, 11:24 PM   #6817
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- A72 2x2 AS RöthaAK Leipzig AK Leipzig-Süd (7.2km; OSM; 100 million €; plan approval order: December 2013; groundbreaking: 2016(preliminary works will begin earlier); source)
The correct name of the junction is Kreuz Leipzig-Süd.
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Old July 30th, 2014, 11:35 PM   #6818
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Good that the Oberau tunnels will come. It's indeed a bottleneck every Saturday.
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Old July 31st, 2014, 11:39 AM   #6819
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Good that the Oberau tunnels will come. It's indeed a bottleneck every Saturday.
I agree. I remember the town full of signs "Oberau tunnel now, without 'ifs' and 'buts'".

Isn't it going to be part of A95?
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Isn't it going to be part of A95?
No, B2. It will be a "yellow Autobahn" . It's w/o hard shoulders. The 3.8km section between the current A95 end and the Oberau bypass should also been upgraded (2x2 with hard shoulders). It will also be signed B2. The plan approval procedure began years ago. The order was announced (in April 2011) to be passed in spring 2012, groundbreaking spring 2013. The info on the project page of both projects is from October 2011: > click <. The AADT is > 20,000 vehicles/day. The 2025 prediction w/o upgrade is 30,000 vehicles/day in Oberau.
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