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Old November 16th, 2014, 12:13 PM   #7241
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A9 upgrade north of Munich

An A9 widening from 2x3 to 2x4 lanes b/n AD Holledau and AK Neufahrn (33km; OSM) north of Munich is planned. It's only further demand with planning legislation.

The workaround is to implement temporary shoulder runnings. The first section b/n Allershausen and Neufahrn was completed in 2012. The northbound carriageway b/n Holledau and Allershausen was built in 2014. The construction site was cleared on 12th October. Shoulder running is planned to get in operation in May 2015.

http://www.abdsb.bayern.de/projekte/...enfreigabe.php



It was planned to upgrade the southbound carriageway b/n Holledau and Allershause in 2015 but.... Dem Bund ist das Geld ausgegangen (money run out = no money available). Works will start in 2016 at earliest.

According to the project page (see above) the total costs for the renovation and upgrade b/n Holledau and Allershausen (17km) are (were) 95 million €. The northbound carriageway costed 44 million €. 95 - 44 = 51 million €. According to the news article, the remaining costs for the southbound carriageway are 55 million €.


AADT 2010 (source) - 2013 permanent counting source (Dauerzählstelle):
AS Lenting (60) – AS Ingolstadt-North (61) 78700 / 10467 (13,3%) (2x3) - 2013: 82411 (max: Friday 26th July, 112914)
AS Ingolstadt-North (61) – AS Ingolstadt-South (62) 92400 / 11180 (12,1%) (2x3) - 2013: 99360 (max: Wednesday 2nd October*, 140048)
AS Ingolstadt-South (62) – AS Manching (63) 88000 / 11088 (12,6%) (2x3) - 2013: 92358 (max: Friday 12th July, 124442)
AS Manching (63) – AS Langenbruck (64) 85500 / 10346 (12,1%) (2x3)
AS Langenbruck (64) – AD Holledau (A 93) 75300 / 10241 (13,6%) (2x3) - 2013: 79838 (max. Friday 26th July, 109453)
AD Holledau (A 93) – TR In der Holledau 94100 / 10445 (11,1%) (2x3, shoulder running planned) - 2013: 97738 (max: Friday 19th July, 130853)
TR In der Holledau – AS Pfaffenhofen (66) 97400 / 10032 (10,3%) (2x3, shoulder running planned)
AS Pfaffenhofen (66) – AS Allershausen (67) 99500 / 11045 (11,1%) (2x3, shoulder running planned) - 2013: 103249 (max: Friday 19th July, 135318)
AS Allershausen (67) – AK Neufahrn (A 92) 104300 / 11473 (11%) (2x3, shoulder running) - 2013: 108087 (max: Wednesday 2nd October*, 141104)
AK Neufahrn (A 92) – AS Eching (69) 119300 / 11334 (9,5%) (2x4) - 2013: 121634 (max: Wednesday 2nd October*, 154148)
AS Eching (69) – AS Garching-North (70) 131800 / 12521 (9,5%) (2x4) - 2013: 135242 (max: Wednesday 2nd October*, 174386)
AS Garching-North (70) – AS Garching-South (71) 136800 / 12449 (9,1%) (2x4) - 2013: 140961 (max: Friday 12th July, 181508)
AS Garching-South (71) – AK München-North (A 99) 146200 / 13158 (9%) (2x4) - 2013: 152619 (max: Friday 12th July, 193887)
AK München-North (A 99) – AS München-Fröttmaning-South (73) 103500 / 5589 (5,4%) (2x3) - 2013: 110735 (max: Wednesday 25th September**, 141924)
AS München-Fröttmaning-South (73) – AS München-Freimann (74) 102100 / 5513 (5,4%) (2x3) - 2013: 105819 (max: Friday 27th September, 136219)
AS München-Freimann (74) – AS München-Frankfurter Ring (75) 103000 / 4944 (4,8%) (2x3)
AS München-Frankfurter Ring (75) – AS München-Schwabing (76) 77300 / 5025 (6,5%) (2x2) - 2013: 84779 (max: Friday 27th September, 108221)

*3rd October = German Unity Day = holiday
**25th Septeber 2013 = day of football match Bayern Munich - Hannover 96 (source)!? 4:1
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Old November 17th, 2014, 09:08 PM   #7242
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- The groundbreaking ceremony for the reconstruction of the A3 Lahntalbrücke viaduct near Limburg will be on 8th June 2013. Completion: 2017. Costs: 67 million €. OSM. Project page.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 10:14 PM   #7243
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18th November 2014: A4 Magdala - Jena-Göschwitz (11.8km; OSM; u/c since May 2007; 2x3; direction Dresden)
18th November 2014: A24 2x3 widening West of Kremmen - AD Havelland (3.0km; OSM; u/c since September 2012)
18th November 2014: A10 2x3 widening AD Havelland - Klein-Ziethen (2.4km; OSM; u/c since September 2012)
November 2014: A8 Bergen viaduct (1.3km; OSM; u/c since May 2010; 2x3 but remains 2x2 until the next section will be widened)
November 2014: B14 2x2 widening Danube bridge Tuttlingen (0.6km; OSM; u/c since August 2013)
November 2014: B255 Niederahr - Oberahr (2.3km; OSM; u/c since July 2007)
Late November 2014: A26 Horneburg - Jork (4.6km; OSM; u/c since Summer 2006; 1x2 direction Stade only)
Late November 2014: A8 2x3 widening East of Klosterweg viaduct – West of Pforzheim-West (?km; OSM; u/c since August 2009)

Early December 2014: B2 Roth-Otto-Lilienthal-Kaserne – South of Untersteinbach (3.3km; OSM; u/c since October 2012; 2x2)
November Early December 2014: B286 2+1 widening Alitzheim - Gerolzhofen-North (1.3km; OSM; u/c since July 2013)
December 2014: A8 2x3 widening East of Karlsbad - West of Pfinztal viaduct (?km; OSM; u/c since August 2009)
December 2014: B6n West of Kleinpaschleben - Köthen (B183) (13.5km; OSM; u/c since March 2011; 2+1)
December 2014: B207 Lübeck-South (A20) - South of Pogeez (5.3km; OSM; u/c since 2011)
Late November December 2014: B50 AK WittlichPlatten (5.4km; OSM; u/c since May 2003; 2x2)

Fall 2014: A524 Duisburg-Huckingen – West of AK Duisburg-South (A59) (1.5km; OSM; u/c since February 2010)
2014: B48 Enkenbach-Alsenborn bypass, 2nd section (0.7km; OSM; u/c since September 2009)
Late 2014: A4 2x3 widening Düren - East of Düren (2.2km; OSM; u/c since ?)
Late 2014: A8 2x3 widening Temmenhausen - west of Ulm-West (7.8km; OSM; u/c since May 2012)

November 2014: B174 2x2 widening Chemnitz-Südring – Chemnitz outskirt (1.3km; OSM; u/c since September 2012)
B2 source (Official opening should be in first week of December but the road could be opened one week earlier), B50 source (It's still aimed to be open in 2014), B174 source (early 2015), B286 source.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 10:23 PM   #7244
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December 2014: B207 Lübeck-South (A20) - South of Pogeez (5.3km; OSM; u/c since 2011)
According to Google Earth they already did some bridge work before that.

A bridge has been built for K37 in or before 2010.
A bridge has been built for the railroad south of Pogeez in or before 2009.
2010 imagery also shows some preliminary works at the railroad north of Pogeez.
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I think the first (preliminary) works begun in May 2008. Pics 2011-14: http://www.autobahnatlas-online.de/B...beckPogeez.htm.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 10:37 PM   #7246
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An A9 widening from 2x3 to 2x4 lanes b/n AD Holledau and AK Neufahrn (33km; OSM) north of Munich is planned. It's only further demand with planning legislation.

The workaround is to implement temporary shoulder runnings. The first section b/n Allershausen and Neufahrn was completed in 2012. The northbound carriageway b/n Holledau and Allershausen was built in 2014. The construction site was cleared on 12th October. Shoulder running is planned to get in operation in May 2015.

http://www.abdsb.bayern.de/projekte/...enfreigabe.php



It was planned to upgrade the southbound carriageway b/n Holledau and Allershause in 2015 but.... Dem Bund ist das Geld ausgegangen (money run out = no money available). Works will start in 2016 at earliest.

According to the project page (see above) the total costs for the renovation and upgrade b/n Holledau and Allershausen (17km) are (were) 95 million €. The northbound carriageway costed 44 million €. 95 - 44 = 51 million €. According to the news article, the remaining costs for the southbound carriageway are 55 million €.


AADT 2010 (source) - 2013 permanent counting source (Dauerzählstelle):
AS Lenting (60) – AS Ingolstadt-North (61) 78700 / 10467 (13,3%) (2x3) - 2013: 82411 (max: Friday 26th July, 112914)
AS Ingolstadt-North (61) – AS Ingolstadt-South (62) 92400 / 11180 (12,1%) (2x3) - 2013: 99360 (max: Wednesday 2nd October*, 140048)
AS Ingolstadt-South (62) – AS Manching (63) 88000 / 11088 (12,6%) (2x3) - 2013: 92358 (max: Friday 12th July, 124442)
AS Manching (63) – AS Langenbruck (64) 85500 / 10346 (12,1%) (2x3)
AS Langenbruck (64) – AD Holledau (A 93) 75300 / 10241 (13,6%) (2x3) - 2013: 79838 (max. Friday 26th July, 109453)
AD Holledau (A 93) – TR In der Holledau 94100 / 10445 (11,1%) (2x3, shoulder running planned) - 2013: 97738 (max: Friday 19th July, 130853)
TR In der Holledau – AS Pfaffenhofen (66) 97400 / 10032 (10,3%) (2x3, shoulder running planned)
AS Pfaffenhofen (66) – AS Allershausen (67) 99500 / 11045 (11,1%) (2x3, shoulder running planned) - 2013: 103249 (max: Friday 19th July, 135318)
AS Allershausen (67) – AK Neufahrn (A 92) 104300 / 11473 (11%) (2x3, shoulder running) - 2013: 108087 (max: Wednesday 2nd October*, 141104)
AK Neufahrn (A 92) – AS Eching (69) 119300 / 11334 (9,5%) (2x4) - 2013: 121634 (max: Wednesday 2nd October*, 154148)
AS Eching (69) – AS Garching-North (70) 131800 / 12521 (9,5%) (2x4) - 2013: 135242 (max: Wednesday 2nd October*, 174386)
AS Garching-North (70) – AS Garching-South (71) 136800 / 12449 (9,1%) (2x4) - 2013: 140961 (max: Friday 12th July, 181508)
AS Garching-South (71) – AK München-North (A 99) 146200 / 13158 (9%) (2x4) - 2013: 152619 (max: Friday 12th July, 193887)
AK München-North (A 99) – AS München-Fröttmaning-South (73) 103500 / 5589 (5,4%) (2x3) - 2013: 110735 (max: Wednesday 25th September**, 141924)
AS München-Fröttmaning-South (73) – AS München-Freimann (74) 102100 / 5513 (5,4%) (2x3) - 2013: 105819 (max: Friday 27th September, 136219)
AS München-Freimann (74) – AS München-Frankfurter Ring (75) 103000 / 4944 (4,8%) (2x3)
AS München-Frankfurter Ring (75) – AS München-Schwabing (76) 77300 / 5025 (6,5%) (2x2) - 2013: 84779 (max: Friday 27th September, 108221)

*3rd October = German Unity Day = holiday
**25th Septeber 2013 = day of football match Bayern Munich - Hannover 96 (source)!? 4:1
Admitted that this stretch is a bit of a bottleneck, they only just finished digging up between Neufahrn and Holledau. I wish they'd do everything at once...
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Old November 18th, 2014, 06:57 PM   #7247
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Last night I travelled from the Netherlands back to Austria. From the Dutch border I take the A3 to Oberhausen, and I exit there to stay on the A3 towards Cologne. From there it's a straight run without using exits all the way to Munich, as the A3 changes into A9 at Nürnberg. To stay on the A3 towards Regensburg you have to take an exit again.

I had this thought last night. If you get on the A2 at Berlin, and keep on sitting on it without taking exits, you'll wind up in Munich via Hanover, Oberhausen and Frankfurt. It keeps on changing numbers (A2, A3, A9) but it's still a straight run without exits.... So not looking at the numbers, it must be the longest straight motorway in Germany.

There is also another interesting relation, it is nowhere as long as the Munich-Potsdam one above, but it has quite a lot of number changes:

Stuttgart-Hamburg, starting at Dreieck Leonberg on A81 and ending in Hamburg at the transition of A255 and B4/B75 (683 km)
If you don't leave the main direction lanes, you will drive on A81, A6, A67, A5, A7, A1 and A255. The TOTSOs are: Kreuz Weinsberg east of Heilbronn (A81/A6), Viernheimer Dreieck north of Mannheim (A6/A67), Darmstädter Kreuz west of Darmstadt (A67/A5), Hattenbacher Dreieck in the middle of nowhere between Frankfurt and Kassel (A5/A7), Horster Dreieck south of Hamburg (A7/A1) and Dreieck Hamburg-Süd (A1/A255).

So especially on the short section between Frankfurt and Stuttgart (ca. 200 km), if you simply don't exit, you drive on 4 different Autobahn numbers (A5, A67, A6, A81).

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Old November 19th, 2014, 12:02 PM   #7248
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Motorists must soon pay an extra fee when the german roads are busy.

In a new report there is a suggestion that motorists should pay a toll when they are in a traffic jam on the german expressways.

Our goal is to reduce the number of traffic jams, said study author Prof. Günter Knieps.

If you want to drive at rush hour, then have to pay even more.

Smart phones, navigation devices or mini-chips in the car could count the the distance you have traveled in the congestions.

In Oregon, 1 kilometer driving on the highway costs the equivalent of 1 cent. In peak hours (7 to 9 and 16 to 18 clock clock) the toll is about 8 cents.


For Germany this would mean: if you commute between Wolfsburg and Braunschweig (35 km), in the rush hour you will be charged with EUR 5.60 per day.

Knieps: In return, the road tax will be abolished.

Transport Minister Alexander Dobrindt (44, CSU) opposes the congestion toll because the so-called traffic-control toll would include tracking devices in every vehicle and movement profiles of every motorist.
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No link, so unreliable. Especially now they are all talking about abolishing tolls all together...
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Motorists must soon pay an extra fee when the german roads are busy.
It's the idea of a Professor, so it's absolute irrelevant. No one in politics has such an idea. On the contrary, every one is agreed that German car owners must not pay more than they pay now. (And because of that it is quite possible that the toll will not be introduced at all).
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I wondered why he didn't provide a link. Poor attempt to alarm people...
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A link in german

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You see such proposals from time to time from economists. Instead of investing in your country, you simply make facilities too expensive for people to use.
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...which is not true. Let's leave it at that.
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Motorists must soon pay an extra fee when the german roads are busy.

In a new report there is a suggestion that motorists should pay a toll when they are in a traffic jam on the german expressways.

Our goal is to reduce the number of traffic jams, said study author Prof. Günter Knieps.

If you want to drive at rush hour, then have to pay even more.

Smart phones, navigation devices or mini-chips in the car could count the the distance you have traveled in the congestions.

In Oregon, 1 kilometer driving on the highway costs the equivalent of 1 cent. In peak hours (7 to 9 and 16 to 18 clock clock) the toll is about 8 cents.


For Germany this would mean: if you commute between Wolfsburg and Braunschweig (35 km), in the rush hour you will be charged with EUR 5.60 per day.

Knieps: In return, the road tax will be abolished.

Transport Minister Alexander Dobrindt (44, CSU) opposes the congestion toll because the so-called traffic-control toll would include tracking devices in every vehicle and movement profiles of every motorist.
Oregon? Where'd that come from? Do they really do that? In urban areas only or statewide?
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No link, so unreliable. Especially now they are all talking about abolishing tolls all together...
It reads like a legitimate news report with an exaggerated headline. (I'm guessing that that "Motorists must..." sentence is the headline, and the "must" doesn't seem supported by the content.)
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Oregon? Where'd that come from? Do they really do that? In urban areas only or statewide?
Oregon has a tolling pilot in the Portland area to pay for per mile driven. It's a voluntary pilot program as far as I know.
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It reads like a legitimate news report with an exaggerated headline. (I'm guessing that that "Motorists must..." sentence is the headline, and the "must" doesn't seem supported by the content.)
Just quote the "right" source:

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Müssen Autofahrer bald Maut zahlen, wenn sie im Stau stehen? http://www.bild.de/geld/wirtschaft/e...8474.bild.html
But it's a question, not a statement....
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Oregon has a tolling pilot in the Portland area to pay for per mile driven. It's a voluntary pilot program as far as I know.
Voluntary to pay or not pay?
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