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Old December 2nd, 2014, 10:36 PM   #7301
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Stasi was in the East.
The people most paranoid, I talked to, are all from the West, they told me what I wrote above...
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 10:43 PM   #7302
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Ok. I've never heard but Upper Bavaria is very special...
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 10:54 AM   #7303
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Stasi was in the East.
The people most paranoid, I talked to, are all from the West, they told me what I wrote above...
So you talk to a lot of people who are over 80 years old and they are the ones who protest in masses against Streetview?
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 01:27 PM   #7304
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Germans can be ridiculous.

The German government forced Google to agree that citizens can have their houses blurred out. Hundreds of thousands of people used that option.

The main concern was that burglars may use streetview to spy out the house and the surroundings.

Others complained that they could no longer lay in the garden unwatched - they seemed to believe that Google are transmitting live pictures

But then newspaper articles appeared of people who had their houses blurred out. These articles were also published online - with the respective house in the background and the full names of the owners

My last information was that Google had stopped to extend the existing service because it was too much hassle.

But honestly - Germans and their data protection hysteria. There are plans to take photos of number plates to control the road toll - what a shitstorm.

Some day, it will be forbidden to look at number plates - if you see the same plate twice, you have created a movement profile.

Some other day, they'll advise you not to leave your house any more - your neighbour might see you!

Honestly
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 01:35 PM   #7305
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Some day, it will be forbidden to look at number plates - if you see the same plate twice, you have created a movement profile.
Using a dashcam can now cost you up to 300.000 euros (!) if you hand over footage to your insurance company or police in case on an incident/accident. Also posting your footage online is illegal as long as number plates are visible.

It's ridiculous
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 02:26 PM   #7306
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So you talk to a lot of people who are over 80 years old and they are the ones who protest in masses against Streetview?
I talk to work colleagues, which are around my age, so around 30, the most paranoid ones, are from the former West Germany, and the burglar fear, Heico mentioned, is widely spread. The other concern, regarding former Nazi regime is also very true in Germany, from old to young people.

I don't understand why Google hasn't covered extra-urban roads at least...
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 10:23 PM   #7307
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Using a dashcam can now cost you up to 300.000 euros (!) if you hand over footage to your insurance company or police in case on an incident/accident. Also posting your footage online is illegal as long as number plates are visible.

It's ridiculous
Does Austria has the same regulations?
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 10:33 PM   #7308
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I think so.
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Old December 4th, 2014, 01:09 AM   #7309
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Germans can be ridiculous.
Honestly
It is ridiculous but at least they are paying attention to it. I don't mind Streetview but road tolls with number plate scanning, yikes (or indeed, speed cameras...)
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Old December 4th, 2014, 04:44 PM   #7310
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Does anybody know anything about the Kiesselbachtunnel-Heckenstallertunnel complex on Munich ring (at the end of A 95)? A friend of mine lives nearby and told me it seems to be completed for a while now but it's still closed...
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Old December 4th, 2014, 05:38 PM   #7311
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A segment of the A21 was opened 2 days ago. The section was build over 3 years with costs of 20 million euro and has a length of only 2.5km.
The ground was more or less too swampy to build a motorway on it, so they had to replace 150,000m³. This took time and cost a lot of money. A wildlife crossing took another 3.7 million Euro. In 2017 the second part of this section should be done.

(German newspaper article: http://www.kn-online.de/Schleswig-Ho...der-A21-fertig)

I assume it's one of the lowest Autobahn projects in Germany.
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Old December 4th, 2014, 06:37 PM   #7312
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Welcome!
What do you mean by "lowest Autobahn projects"?
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Old December 4th, 2014, 06:41 PM   #7313
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Thank you. Oh lowest.. I meant slowest, but I didn't press the key strong enough. My fault.
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Old December 4th, 2014, 06:42 PM   #7314
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Old December 4th, 2014, 07:18 PM   #7315
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Does anybody know anything about the Kiesselbachtunnel-Heckenstallertunnel complex on Munich ring (at the end of A 95)? A friend of mine lives nearby and told me it seems to be completed for a while now but it's still closed...
http://www.muenchen.de/rathaus/Stadt...-suedwest.html

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Die Verkehrsfreigabe ist in der zweiten Jahreshälfte 2015 geplant. Im Anschluss erfolgt bis Ende 2017 die Wiederherstellung der Oberfläche und die Anlage des Heckenstallerparks. Dies soll bis Ende 2017 abgeschlossen werden.
The tunnels will be opened for traffic in the 2nd half-year 2015 (I think deadline was November 2015). Final works will be completed by late 2017.

Activities summer 2014 to fall 2015: > click <.

Pics taken by Rent-a-Drone, Peitingin August 2014 (published on muenchen.de):










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Old December 4th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #7316
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I assume it's one of the slowest Autobahn projects in Germany.
No, it isn't. It's quite quick. The first 2.5km were built in just 30 month. 23km are still missing up to Kiel. 23 / 2.5 * 30 = 276 months = 23 years .

The works on the recently opened 4.1km A26 section began in summer 2006. In addition, only the first carriageway has been opened for cars. Trucks are not allowed to drive there.
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Old December 4th, 2014, 07:33 PM   #7317
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[URL]Pics taken by Rent-a-Drone, Peitingin August 2014 (published on muenchen.de):
OT, but "Rent-a-Drone"? I've been thinking for some time now that everyone having drones going wherever the hell they want is a really bad idea....
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Old December 4th, 2014, 07:36 PM   #7318
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Old December 4th, 2014, 11:04 PM   #7319
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The works on the recently opened 4.1km A26 section began in summer 2006. In addition, only the first carriageway has been opened for cars. Trucks are not allowed to drive there.
Ye that's even worse, but in general the building of new Autobahns and building/extending Bundesstraßen as dual carriageways is very slow in recent years. (Apart from some more or less quick exceptions like the widing of the A1 between Lübeck and Hamburg)
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Old December 4th, 2014, 11:06 PM   #7320
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(...) in recent years. (Apart from some more or less quick exceptions like the widening of the A1 between Lübeck and Hamburg)
That was 45 years ago...
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