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Old December 4th, 2014, 11:40 PM   #7321
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http://www.muenchen.de/rathaus/Stadt...-suedwest.html

The tunnels will be opened for traffic in the 2nd half-year 2015 (I think deadline was November 2015). Final works will be completed by late 2017.
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In the meanwhile I found the same website and, with my rusty German, translated that. I know I could go with google translate, but I want to keep at least a basic understanding of the language

I hadn't found the pictures, though, they are very interesting... I remember the mess when I lived there three years ago...
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Old December 5th, 2014, 07:58 PM   #7322
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That was 45 years ago...
I guess TrojaA has mistaken Hamburg-Lübeck and Hamburg-Bremen . The latter was upgraded 2008-2012 (~70km).
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Old December 5th, 2014, 10:48 PM   #7323
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I guess TrojaA has mistaken Hamburg-Lübeck and Hamburg-Bremen . The latter was upgraded 2008-2012 (~70km).
Yep I meant Bremen, dunno why I wrote Lübeck. Sometimes my brain and hands don't work together very well
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Autobahn A45: AK Gambacher Kreuz - AS Herborn-Süd

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A 3.6 kilometer stretch of four-lane motorway-like road opened to traffic in Bavaria, just south of Roth. It bypasses the village of Untersteinbach an der Haide. Construction cost was € 18 million.

http://www.bmvi.de/SharedDocs/DE/Pre...ettenheim.html
are there any more Plans to upgrade the B2 between Roth and Donauwörth? 2x2, Bypasses grade seperated or whatever
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B2 Roth-Donauwörth

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are there any more Plans to upgrade the B2 between Roth and Donauwörth? 2x2, Bypasses grade seperated or whatever
Yes. The plan approval procudure of the next 4.1km section around Wernsbach began in 2010 (OSM; south of Untersteinbach). The section will also feature 2x2 lanes. There are already 3 lanes up to Ellingen where a short 2x2 section follows up to Weißenburg (OSM). The Weißenburg bypass is planned to be widened to 2+1 too. The groundbreaking ceremony of the Dettenheim bypass was yesterday.The 3.4km bypass and a 1.3km 2+1-section south of Dettenheim will be completed in July 2017 (OSM). A Dietfurt bypass is also planned (OSM; early planning stage). It's the last remaining cross-town link between Nuremberg and Augsburg (strictly speaking b/n A6 south of Nuremberg and Hohenfurch north of Schongau, ~180km). I read in April that the building authority also wants to upgrade the reamining route up to Donauwörth which is only partial 2+1 yet. Afterwards, the entire 180km would feature minimum 3 lanes. It's the route of the formerly planned A77 Nuremberg-Donauwörth and A91 (Feuchtwangen-)Donauwörth-Augsburg-Schongau(-Füssen).

AADT 2010 b/n Roth and Donauwörth:

AS Roth (A6) – Penzendorf (L2239) 20300 / 2964 (14,6%) - 2x2
Penzendorf (L2239) – Rednitzhembach (RH1) 26100 / 2741 (10,5%) - 2x2
Rednitzhembach (RH1) – Roth (L2237) 25500 / 2933 (11,5%) - 2x2
Roth (L2237) – Roth (L2220) 24400 / 2562 (10,5%)- 2x2
Roth (L2220) – Belmbrach (GVS) 19800 / 2455 (12,4%)- 2x2
Belmbrach (GVS) – Roth-Kiliansdorf (L2409) 17400 / 2245 (12,9%) - 2x2
Roth-Kiliansdorf (L2409) – Georgensgmünd (L2223) 14900 / 2161 (14,5%) - 2x2 Untersteinbach bypass completed; 2x2 Wernsbach bypass planned
Georgensgmünd (L2223) – Röttenbach (GVS) 14300 / 2031 (14,2%) - 2+1
Röttenbach (GVS) – Röttenbach (L2923) 12200 / 1976 (16,2%) - 2+1
Röttenbach (L2923) – Pleinfeld 14000 / 2198 (15,7%) - 2+1
Pleinfeld – Ellingen-Nord 16400 / 2230 (13,6%) - 2+1
Ellingen-Nord – Ellingen/Weißenburg-Nord 18200 / 2603 (14,3%) - 2x2 w/o median
Ellingen/Weißenburg-Nord – Weißenburg (B13) 14400 / 2434 (16,9%) - 2+1 planned
Weißenburg (B13) – Weißenburg 14700 / 2132 (14,5%) - 2+1 planned
Weißenburg – Treuchtlingen (L2216) 15400 / 2064 (13,4%) - 2+1 u/c
Treuchtlingen (L2216) – Treuchtlingen (L2230) 11400 / 2086 (18,3%) - Dietfurt bypass planned
Treuchtlingen (L2230) – Monheim (L2214) 8300 / 1693 (20,4%) - partial 2+1; additional 2+1 sections proposed
Monheim (L2214) – S Kaisheim (DON27) 10500 / 1890 (18%) - partial 2+1; additional 2+1 sections proposed
S Kaisheim (DON27) – Donauwörth Ende B2 17100 / 2052 (12%) - 2+1 upgrade proposed
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5th December 2014: B2 Roth-Otto-Lilienthal-Kaserne – South of Untersteinbach (3.3km; OSM; u/c since October 2012; 2x2)

Early December 2014: B286 2+1 widening Alitzheim - Gerolzhofen-North (1.3km; OSM; u/c since July 2013)
15th December 2014: B50 AK WittlichPlatten (5.4km; OSM; u/c since May 2003; 2x2)
>= 15th 16th December 2014: B6n West of Kleinpaschleben - Köthen-East (13.5km; OSM; u/c since March 2011; 2+1)
23rd December 2014: B207 Lübeck-South (A20) - South of Pogeez (5.3km; OSM; u/c since 2011)
Late Mid December 2014: A4 2x3 widening Düren - East of Düren (2.2km; OSM; u/c since ?)
Mid December 2014: B174 2x2 widening Chemnitz-Südring – Chemnitz outskirt (1.3km; OSM; u/c since September 2012)
December 2014: A8 2x3 widening East of Karlsbad - West of Pfinztal viaduct (?km; OSM; u/c since August 2009)
December 2014: B255 Niederahr - Oberahr (2.3km; OSM; u/c since July 2007)

2014: B48 Enkenbach-Alsenborn bypass, 2nd section (0.7km; OSM; u/c since September 2009)
Late 2014: A8 2x3 widening Temmenhausen - west of Ulm-West (7.8km; OSM; u/c since May 2012)
A4 source (reported by a guy who's involved in works, B2 source, B6n source, B174 source, B207 source
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Old December 8th, 2014, 10:19 PM   #7328
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A4 widening b/n Aachen and Cologne

Pics of the A4 widening near Düren, taken by Raffael (posted on http://autobahn-online.de/phorum). A4 was relocated b/n Düren and Kerpen. The new route features 2x3 lanes. Two sections (each 2.2km) at the crossovers at the beginning and at the end of the relocation are still u/c. The section near Düren will be completed in Mid December 2014, the section near Kerpen will be completed by late 2015.

Mid October 2014, near Düren (OSM), view towards Cologne:
[img]http://i57.************/25u65gh.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i61.************/30sftxu.jpg[/img]

Mid October 2014, view towards Aachen:
[img]http://i61.************/vottw9.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i61.************/etw0n4.jpg[/img]

Late October 2014, view towards Aachen:
[img]http://i59.************/11llttx.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i61.************/x1kg2h.jpg[/img]
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Late October 2014, east K2 bridge, view towards Aachen:
[img]http://i58.************/167rqzt.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i60.************/2myywpw.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i58.************/24wxz6g.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i61.************/2ik3wnk.jpg[/img]

Reason of the relocation:
[img]http://i58.************/244p3sl.jpg[/img]

Mid November 2014, near Düren, view from rural road bridge east of railroad bridge:
[img]http://i62.************/23msh0m.jpg[/img]

Late November 2014, near Kerpen (OSM), east of i/c Elsdorf:
[img]http://i62.************/2zscly0.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i57.************/xdvzwi.jpg[/img]
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Old December 9th, 2014, 09:29 PM   #7329
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Early 8th December 2014: B286 2+1 widening Alitzheim - Gerolzhofen-North (1.3km; OSM; u/c since July 2013)
Mid 12th December 2014: B174 2x2 widening Chemnitz-Südring – Chemnitz outskirt (1.3km; OSM; u/c since September 2012)
15th December 2014: B50 AK WittlichPlatten (5.4km; OSM; u/c since May 2003; 2x2)
16th December 2014: B6n West of Kleinpaschleben - Köthen-East (13.5km; OSM; u/c since March 2011; 2+1)
23rd December 2014: B207 Lübeck-South (A20) - South of Pogeez (5.3km; OSM; u/c since 2011)
Mid December 2014: A4 2x3 widening Düren - East of Düren (2.2km; OSM; u/c since ?)
December 2014: A8 2x3 widening East of Karlsbad - West of Pfinztal viaduct (?km; OSM; u/c since August 2009)
December 2014: B255 Niederahr - Oberahr (2.3km; OSM; u/c since July 2007)

2014: B48 Enkenbach-Alsenborn bypass, 2nd section (0.7km; OSM; u/c since September 2009)
Late 2014: A8 2x3 widening Temmenhausen - west of Ulm-West (7.8km; OSM; u/c since May 2012)
A8 source (traffic will use 2x2 lanes from tomorrow but 3rd lanes will be opened with final subsection in late 2015), B174 source, B286 source
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B286 Schweinfurt-Wiesentheid

Video of new 2+1 section b/n Alitzheim and Gerolzhofen (B286). Speed limit is reduced to 100km/h now (from 120km/h):

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12th December 2014: B174 2x2 widening Chemnitz-Südring – Chemnitz outskirt (1.3 0.9km; OSM; u/c since September 2012)

15th December 2014: B50 AK WittlichPlatten (5.4km; OSM; u/c since May 2003; 2x2)
16th December 2014: B6n West of Kleinpaschleben - Köthen-East (13.5km; OSM; u/c since March 2011; 2+1)
19th December 2014: B75 Dibbersen bypass (2.7km; OSM; u/c since July 2012; parial 2x2)
23rd December 2014: B207 Lübeck-South (A20) - South of Pogeez (5.3km; OSM; u/c since 2011)
Mid December 2014: A4 2x3 widening Düren - East of Düren (2.2km; OSM; u/c since ?)
December 2014: B255 Niederahr - Oberahr (2.3km; OSM; u/c since July 2007)

2014: B48 Enkenbach-Alsenborn bypass, 2nd section (0.7km; OSM; u/c since September 2009)
Late 2014: A8 2x3 widening Temmenhausen - west of Ulm-West (7.8km; OSM; u/c since May 2012)
A8 (Couldn't find an accurate link but it will not be opened 2x3 in 2014), B75 source (2) (Announced to be completed by May 2015, lately January 2015, now December 2014) B174 source (2) (It's only 0.9km and it's not grade-separated!)
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15th December 2014: B50 AK WittlichPlatten (5.4km; OSM; u/c since May 2003; 2x2)
16th December 2014: B6n West of Kleinpaschleben - Köthen-East (13.5km; OSM; u/c since March 2011; 2+1)
19th December 2014: B75 Dibbersen bypass (2.7km; OSM; u/c since July 2012; parial 2x2)


23rd December 2014: B207 Lübeck-South (A20) - South of Pogeez (5.3km; OSM; u/c since 2011)
Mid December 2014: A4 2x3 widening Düren - East of Düren (2.2km; OSM; u/c since ?)
December 2014: B255 Niederahr - Oberahr (2.3km; OSM; u/c since July 2007)

2014: B48 Enkenbach-Alsenborn bypass, 2nd section (0.7km; OSM; u/c since September 2009)
B6n source (2) (costs: 60 million €; entire B6n length: 125km, 105km completed, total costs: 710 million €), B50 source (2; pics) (92 million €) and B75 source (costs: 17 million €)
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Media announced that the funding of some projects is backed:

- A3 2x3 (4+3) widening near Wertheim (8.5km; OSM; 77 million €; plan approval order: February 2007; groundbreaking: March 2015; source)
- A14 2x2 Grabow - Groß Warnow (9.8km; OSM; 88 million €; plan approval order: December 2012; groundbreaking: 2015; source)
- B2 2x2 Oberau bypass (4.2km; OSM; 165 million €; plan approval order: February 2010; groundbreaking: Spring 2015; source)
- B3 2x2/2+1 Hemmingen bypass (7.5km; OSM; 50 million €; plan approval order: September 2004; groundbreaking: 2015?; source)
- B29 2x2 Mögglingen bypass (6.9km; OSM; 67 million €; plan approval order: September 1999; groundbreaking: Late 2014; source)
- B31 2x2 ImmenstaadFriedrichshafen (7.1km; OSM; 97 million €; plan approval order: June 2008; groundbreaking: Early 2015; source)
- B300 2x2 widening Dasing - Aichach (4-5km; OSM; 22 million €; plan approval order: April 2009; groundbreaking: Fall 2014; source)

All announced projects are motorway, motorway-like or partial motorway-like (B3 only).

- B213/B403 Nordhorn bypass (8.5km; OSM; 32 million €; plan approval order: May 2011; groundbreaking: "soon"; source)
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More projects seem to be backed:

- A3 2x4 widening AS Leverkusen - AS Köln-Mülheim (~4.5km; OSM; ? million €; plan approval order: January 2012; groundbreaking: Early 2015; source)
- A43 2x3 widening AS Recklinghausen/Herten – AK Herne (~7km; OSM; 166 million €; plan approval order: April 2013; groundbreaking: Late 2014; source; expected court hearing: 2015)
- A72 2x2 AS Rötha – AK Leipzig (7.2km; OSM; 100 million €; plan approval order: December 2013; groundbreaking: 2016(preliminary works will begin earlier); source)
- B51/B481 2x2/2+1 Münster bypass [L587/K7 - L793] (6.3km; OSM; 42 million €; plan approval order: September 2011; groundbreaking: 2015; source; expected court hearing: Late 2014)
- B271 Kirchheim bypass (3.4km; OSM; 20 million €; plan approval order: February 2009; groundbreaking: 2015; source)

In addition, the final funding of two already u/c projects seems be backed now:

- A26 2x2 Buxtehude - Neu Wulmstorf (4.1km; OSM; 99 million €; plan approval order: June 2012; groundbreaking: September 2013; source)
- B15n 2x2 Ergoldsbach - Essenbach (9.0km; OSM; 115 million €; plan approval order: December 2011; groundbreaking: August 2013; source)
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There's a list of all Bavarian projects (source). Additional projects:

- A3 2x3 widening Marktheidenfeld - Wertheim (~8km [16km in total]; OSM; ~60 million €; plan approval order: October 2008; groundbreaking: 2015?)
- A6 2x3 widening AK Nuremberg-South - AK Nuremberg-East (3.7km; OSM; ~35 million €; plan approval order: September 2009; groundbreaking: 2015?; completion: Late 2016)
- B2 Dettenheim bypass plus 2+1 widening (4.7km; OSM; 12 million €; plan approval order: May 2012; groundbreaking: Fall 2014)
- B85 Neubäu bypass (preliminary works only; OSM)
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- A8 2x2 widening Merzig-Wellingen - Merzig-Schwellingen (3.5km; OSM; 38 million €; plan approval order: Early 2014?; groundbreaking: Fall 2014; source)
- A44 2x2 Waldkappel - Hoheneiche (7.2km; OSM; 224 million €; plan approval order: October 2011; groundbreaking: Spring 2015; source)
- B62 Leimbach bypass (4.5km; OSM; 16 million €; plan approval order: December 2011; groundbreaking: Frühjahr 2015; source)
- B90 Traßdorf - Nahwinden (13.8km; OSM; 46 million €; plan approval order: February 2010; groundbreaking: August 2013; source)

I hate this damn "groundbreaking policy". I hate that the Federal Government does not provide a list with all projects. The news are published by members of the Bundestag or by state's Ministry of Transport. I guess I have to add the remaining 90-100 approved projects (building law) within the next days........
Finally, there's a list: http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/18/035/1803528.pdf (page 8)

red = already u/c

BW B29 Mögglingen bypass (2x2); 67 million € are funded
BW B31 Immenstaad - Friedrichshafen/Waggershausen (2x2); 101 million € are funded
BW B464 Holzgerlingen bypass (2x2 widening); 10 million € are funded
BW A3 LGr BY/BW - LGr BW/BY (2x3 widening); 54 million € are funded
BY A3 AS Wertheim - AS Marktheidenfeld (2x3 widening); 62 million € are funded
BY A6 AK Nürnberg-Süd - AK Nürnberg-Ost (2x3 widening); 62 million € are funded
BY B2n Oberau bypass (2x2); 165 million € are funded
BY B2 Dettenheim bypass (2+1); 10 million € are funded
BY B15n Essenbach - Ergoldsbach (2x2; final funding); 115 million € are funded
BY B85 OU Neubäu, preliminary works only (2+1); 1 million € are funded
BY B300 AS Dasing (A8) - Aichach (2x2 widening); 18 million € are funded
BB B101 Thyrow bypass (2x2); 33 million € are funded
HE A44 AS Waldkappel - AS Ringgau (2x2); 260 million € are funded
MV A14 LGr BB/MV - AS Ludwigslust-Süd (2x2); 97 million € are funded
NI A26 AS Buxtehude – B3n (2x2; final funding); 105 million € are funded
NI B3 Hemmingen bypass (parital 2x2); 50 million € are funded
NI B213/B403 Nordhorn bypass; 30 million € are funded
NW A3 AS Köln-Mühlheim - AS Leverkusen (2x4 widening); 33 million € are funded
NW A43 AK Herne - AS Recklinghausen/Herten (2x3 widening); 201 million € are funded
NW B51 Münster bypass; 42 million € are funded
RP B271 Kirchheim bypass; 22 million € are funded
SL A8 AS Wellingen - AS Schwemlingen (2x2 widening); 44 million € are funded
SN A72 Rötha - Leipzig (A38) (2x2); 112 million € are funded
SN B169 Göltzschtal bypass (final funding); 29 million € are funded
ST B6n Köthen - A9, preliminary works only (2+1); 6 million € are funded
TH B62 Leimbach bypass; 16 million € are funded
TH B90n A71 – B87; 27 million € are funded
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Well, only the facts (w/o any NIMBY shit). The A52 project has four sections. It is planned to build a new 2x3 North-South-Autobahn in the middle of the Ruhr area.

7.1km between AK Essen-East (A40) and AK Essen-North (A42) (OSM; 736.3 million €): Preliminary design phase was abrupt
3.6km between AK Essen-North (A42) and Bottrop/Gladbeck city boundary (OSM; 65.5 million €): plan approval procedure on-going (since < 2011)
1.9km between Bottrop/Gladbeck city boundary and AK Essen/Gladbeck (A2) (OSM; 72.3 million €): plan approval procedure will probably be launched soon (see today's press release)
2.8km between AK Essen/Gladbeck (A2) and AS Gelsenkirchen/Buer-West (OSM; 67.3 million €): Preliminary design phase was abrupt (citizens' decision against the projects, discussion, discussion,....)
Please refer to the general information on Straßen.NRW
The plan approval procedure of the 3rd section (1.9km) will be launched in January 2015. The documents are already published: > click <.

An animation of the future A2/A52 interchange:
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VKE20 will be completed until 2016 or later. The VKE30 plan approval order was passed in January 2012. The complaint was withdrawn in June 2013. The works will begin after completion of VKE20. The plan approval order for VKE40 was passed in May 2012. It is challenged.

Total costs for the three sections (42km): 569 million €, see press release (published on 30th July 2013).
The last A49 plan approval order is also legal now (VKE40). The complaint was rejected by the Federal Administrative Court today, see press release.
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Two maps of the A49.



I said VKE20 will be completed until 2016 or later because there is no final funding. The project page still announces that there is no final funding thus there is no opening date of the first section. There is only one tunnel u/c (and one or two bridges are u/c or completed). The tunnel has a length of 900m and costs 60 million €. The tunnel will be completed in 2015 (source). This articles quotes the road authority (Hessen Mobil) that the section is planned to be opened "at the latest in six years" (up to Schwalmstadt i/c south of the tunnel). My conclusion: estimated opening in 2020.
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Car toll

The car toll bill was passed by the Federal Government last week, see press release "It's fair, wise and right". All Autobahns and B roads will be tolled for German vehicle owners but only Autobahns will be tolled for foreign cars. It will be an electronical vignette. The earnings will be 3 billion € from Germans and 700 million € from foreigners per annum. The additional net earnings will be 500 million € per annum. It's planned to commence in 2016.
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Unless this madness will be stopped by the ECJ beforehand...
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The car toll bill was passed by the Federal Government last week, see press release "It's fair, wise and right". All Autobahns and B roads will be tolled for German vehicle owners but only Autobahns will be tolled for foreign cars. It will be an electronical vignette. The earnings will be 3 billion € from Germans and 700 million € from foreigners per annum. The additional net earnings will be 500 million € per annum. It's planned to commence in 2016.
That suggests that 19% of car use on German roads must be foreign.

I've never noticed that.

Or it suggests they want visitors to pay more than a fair share.
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Old December 21st, 2014, 10:23 AM   #7339
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The earnings will be 3 billion € from Germans and 700 million € from foreigners per annum. The additional net earnings will be 500 million € per annum.
How can 3 billion plus 700 million sum to 500 million???
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Old December 21st, 2014, 10:40 AM   #7340
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First, I've just summarized the press release .

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That suggests that 19% of car use on German roads must be foreign.
I've never noticed that.
Or it suggests they want visitors to pay more than a fair share.
Correct. Germans have to "pay" the annual vignette only. It's not a mileage based toll.

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How can 3 billion plus 700 million sum to 500 million???
The earnings of German vehicle owners is compensated by a lower tax on cars (KFZ-Steuer). The additional earnings are 700 million € (by foreign vehicle owners). The administration costs are 200 million €. 700 - 200 = 500 million € .

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