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Old February 11th, 2015, 07:28 PM   #7561
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I captured this from the SWR.

One pier slipped, leading one bearing to snap off and the bridge deck to dip by 20 or 30 centimeters, leading to an up to 3 centimeter wide crack in the concrete deck.



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Old February 11th, 2015, 09:18 PM   #7562
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Why is in the map of 1940 Germany displayed with the borders of 1938? In '40 the whole Austria and large parts of Poland beloged to the German Empire as far as I know. Czechoslovakia (Tschechoslowakei) did not exist at all. It's hard to beleive that someone made such a map in 1940.
Even if there were (except for a very short section at Salzburg) not any German motorways in the territories that were gained between 1938-40.
German Empire ceased to exist in 1918.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 09:37 PM   #7563
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German Empire ceased to exist in 1918.
Actually I don't think so. Although I am not 100% sure what the proper English translation of 'Reich' is.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 10:02 PM   #7564
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Reich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Reich

Or Empire...
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Old February 11th, 2015, 10:11 PM   #7565
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The crack at the Schierstein Bridge is pretty big. I doubt if they can fix this within a few weeks. Perhaps they will have to demolish this section (which was already planned anyway).

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Old February 11th, 2015, 10:14 PM   #7566
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Perhaps they will have to demolish this section (which was already planned anyway).
Source?
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Old February 11th, 2015, 10:21 PM   #7567
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It is part of the bridge replacement project.
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Old February 11th, 2015, 10:25 PM   #7568
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I read it isn't............
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Most of the 'Vorlandbrücke' in Rheinland-Pfalz is indeed not part of the replacement project. However, this part is, as it is located directly south of the main bridge.

http://www.lbm.rlp.de/Bauprojekte/Rh...e-Schierstein/

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Old February 11th, 2015, 10:46 PM   #7570
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A33 Osnabrück

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The next section is a part of the Belm bypass. 2.2km will have a motorway standard, 4.5km will get B51. Preliminary works have started in January 2013. The official groundbreaking was in June 2013 (costs: 66 million €; money for 2013: 3 million €).
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Preliminary works have been done. The construction of a bridge starts now. More works will start Mid 2015. The road is announced to be opened in Late 2019. Source.

B51: north of Belm – AS Belm (A33) 4.5km (February 2015 to Late 2019) – projectmap
A33: AS Belm (B51) – south of AS Osnabrück-Schinkel 2.2km (February 2015 to Late 2019) – projectmap

The 2.2km A33 section is with hard shoulders, the 3.5km B51 section is 2x2. Additional 700m B51 are 2+1 and the 300m passage to the existing B51 is 2-laned.
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In Italian we always use Reich for that period. Empire is the pre-WWI one.
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Old February 12th, 2015, 03:11 AM   #7572
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The crack at the Schierstein Bridge is pretty big. I doubt if they can fix this within a few weeks. Perhaps they will have to demolish this section (which was already planned anyway).

LOL, hilarious

In Quebec, Canada we wouldn't even notice that... maybe if it started to get worse we would nail a piece of fence to it to stop parts from falling

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Old February 12th, 2015, 07:22 PM   #7573
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A643 Schiersteiner Brücke closure

This part (1m long):

was there:

Comparsion of pier w/o and with bearing:


The bridge is lowered by 40 centimeter now.

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Old February 12th, 2015, 07:40 PM   #7574
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Germany is no a poor country (on the contrary), nor is it on a financial crisis. I don't understand why so many pieces of infrastructure just end up suffering these types of damage without preventive action. Highways buckling under heat, load bearing snapping away, stayed cables that need urgent replacement - and also rail tracks with speed restrictions due deferred subbase replacement.

Why not raise taxes just a bit to keep highways (and railway tracks for that matter) in good condition? The economic losses of major bridge closures are huge if you compute productivity lost on traffic jams.
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Most of the 'Vorlandbrücke' in Rheinland-Pfalz is indeed not part of the replacement project. However, this part is, as it is located directly south of the main bridge.
Yes and no. http://www.allgemeine-zeitung.de/lok...n_15013755.htm.

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Und die defekte Vorlandbrücke in Mainz? Die kommt wieder ins Spiel, wenn der Verkehr auf den ersten Teil der neuen Brücke umgelegt wird, also Ende 2015/Anfang 2016. Laut rheinland-pfälzischem Verkehrsministerium sollte die Vorlandbrücke nach den ursprünglichen Plänen verbreitert, also zunächst weiter genutzt werden. Wie es nun weitergeht, ob womöglich ein Abriss der defekten Brücke und anschließender Neubau erfolgen wird, vermag derzeit noch niemand zu sagen.
The Vorlandbrücke was planned to be temporary widened(!) from Late 2015.

In addition, a map (white = new bridge; red arrow = location of the demage):
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A643 Schiersteiner Brücke closure

A video showing the demage (1:35 to 1:45).
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I think people may tend to associate "Reich" particularly with the Hitler one, although they're more likely to say "Third Reich" than "German Reich."

I'd call the 1871-1918 regime the German Empire.
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1871-1945: German Reich (Deutsches Reich)
* 1871-1918: German Empire (Deutsches Kaiserreich)
* 1919-1932: Weimar Republic (Weimarer Republik)
* 1933-1945: Greater German Reich / 3rd Reich (Großdeutsches Reich / Drittes Reich)
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I think people may tend to associate "Reich" particularly with the Hitler one, although they're more likely to say "Third Reich" than "German Reich."

I'd call the 1871-1918 regime the German Empire.
It's an interesting issue. As Michi wrote, Germany was called as 'Reich' from 1871 to 1945. So I see no reason for calling it Empire before WW I, and something else after that in other languages, just like English or Italian.
However, I see, that, as a matter of fact, Germany after 1918 is no, or only occasionally called as Empire in English, or Impero in Italian. I must admit I'm very surprised about it. So, sorry for confusing some forum members, I promise I will never use that word again :-) And now let's go back to the road infrastructure!
P.S: The Holy Roman Empire (Sacro Romano Impero in Italian), too, is in German a 'Reich': Heiliges Römisches Reich.
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I didn't know that. I thought Hitler was counting the Holy Roman Empire as the first and Bismarck's as the second. When we need to refer to the 1919-1933 Germany, it's usually the Weimar Republic.

My guess is that the German word "Reich" didn't start being used in English until Hitler.

(But how did this come up anyway; did I miss something?)
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