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Old April 7th, 2008, 01:46 PM   #741
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My guess is because that it's a cloverleaf. They probably realised how dangerous things can get at a cloverleaf exchange they decided to discontinue with the plan. To my knowledge, German Autobahns normally do not have cloverleafs. I know British highways has around four, maybe less.

No, you are totally wrong.

Cloverleaves are very good (and nice) interchanges (not exchanges.. :-), and are safe with C/D (collector/distributor lanes) to avoid weaving between the entering and exiting traffic...
the only disadvantage is the limited change capacity...

this interchange is unfinished because the 474n Dülmen bypass is unfinished.

look it at here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=h...,0.108147&z=14
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Old April 7th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #742
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the reason why cloverleafs are the most used form is because it is the cheapest (my guess). you only need to build one bridge. some regions are full of cloverleafs, just check out the area around Mannheim/Ludwigshafen or the entire Rhein-Ruhr-Area.

This morning, I needed 2 hours to drive to Koblenz (40km) just because of some few snow.




the white sign says: Eingeschränkter Winterdienst - Der Umwelt zuliebe, Limited Winter Service - for environment's sake








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Old April 7th, 2008, 03:01 PM   #743
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Great winter pics! One year ago it was 25 degrees and full sun at this time.
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Old April 7th, 2008, 04:02 PM   #744
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thx
yes, it is a late winter this year. the easter week-end was the coldest since 38 years (ok, it was also damn early )

here are some more pics from some online newspapers:

A5 north of Frankfurt


B327 south of Koblenz



somewhere in Rheinland-Pfalz








B50 east of Wittlich
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Old April 7th, 2008, 04:09 PM   #745
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So when Germany has snow, Estonia has 11C
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Old April 7th, 2008, 04:16 PM   #746
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Netherlands too
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Old April 8th, 2008, 01:27 PM   #747
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Patrick, when will you take the pics of the shiny motorway stretch.
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Old April 8th, 2008, 02:18 PM   #748
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well, i am in trier now, friday could be a possibilty if a friend of mine drives home with his car. the last two weeks, i travelled with the train (we drove to the koblenz train station yesterday when i took the pics). driving with the car for myself and alone is too expensive at the moment (for my limited budget). hope the sun will shine and the barrier did not get dirty so fast...
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Old April 10th, 2008, 03:21 PM   #749
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German State Introduces Autobahn Speed Limit

For years, Germans have worried that speed limits may be coming for the autobahn. On Wednesday, the first state-wide slowdown went into effect. Are more such regulations on the way?

Say the word "autobahn," and people's eyes light up around the world. Immediately, dreams of bombing down the highway at unheard of speeds pop into their heads.

Now though, at least in one German state, that dream has been dashed. As of Wednesday, drivers in the state of Bremen will no longer be able to put the pedal to the metal. From now on, the maximum speed allowed is 120 kilometers per hour (75 miles per hour).

The change was announced earlier in the week by Rainer Loske, Bremen's environment minister, who cited environmental concerns as the principal reason behind the decision. It is the product of the center-left coalition of the Greens and Social Democrats, which took power in the state in 2005.

In a Wednesday statement, Loske called the move "a signal for the protection of the environment and climate. Bremen is a pioneer."

Despite the small size of the affected stretch, the limit in Bremen could symbolize the beginning of a larger change in Germany, as it will give impetus to an initiative by the states of Bremen, Berlin and Brandenburg in the Bundesrat, Germany's upper house of parliament, to impose a countrywide limit of 130 kilometers per hour (81 miles per hour).

Jürgen Resch, director of the environmental advocacy group Deutsche Umwelthilfe, said earlier this week that the European Commission may force Germany to introduce an autobahn speed limit by 2010.
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i hate these ecological pseudo-arguments
but I guess it's ok for Bremen, as Bremen is a small city bundesland with some traffic amount and most parts of Bremen's Autobahnen already had a limit.

many other bundesländer don't care about that, fortunately.
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i hate these ecological pseudo-arguments
but I guess it's ok for Bremen, as Bremen is a small city bundesland with some traffic amount and most parts of Bremen's Autobahnen already had a limit.

many other bundesländer don't care about that, fortunately.
The ecological "pseudo" arguments are partially correct. Travelling at very high speed increases wind resistance, not only that but the higher the revs the more work the engine is doing, thus the more fuel consumed. Travelling at 160kmph compared to 130kmph is quite a difference when it comes to fuel consumption generally.
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Bremen is only a very small territory.
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actually, before this new limit, there were only 7km unlimited.
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Old April 13th, 2008, 05:49 PM   #754
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Video: B403

I made a little video yesterday of the B402, a Gelbe Autobahn (Expressway) from the A31 Autobahn near Meppen towards the Dutch border, where it continues as A37 motorway to Emmen. I drove about 110km/h because i had some trouble with my engine (it just wouldn't go faster ). The guy overtaking me with the trailer drove at least 60km/h too fast. This expressway is very quiet.

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Cool video. Is there an interchange with the A31, or is it just and exit with traffic lights?
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It's a full freeflow interchange (it used to have grade crossings), but it's way too tight constructed, as usual with German interchanges which are not top-priority.
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I can understand that. AADT of 2000 near the border or something?
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At the border, the AADT in 2006 (most recent figure) was 6.132 vehicles on workdays, and 5.535 on weekdays. That's still an increase of 3.28%, however 36% of the traffic is truck traffic.

But during saturdays, like the day when this video was taken, there is very few traffic. However, the rest of the B402/B213 to Cloppenburg can carry quite some trucks, and i hope they make the entire route to the A1 a Gelbe Autobahn. It can save quite some time and distance between the Netherlands and Bremen/Hamburg.
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Would it also decrease the travelling time between Amsterdam and Hamburg? The existing connection is quite fast already (A1/BAB30/BAB1)
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The A1 Osnabrück - Bremen is quite overcrowded with trucks, and widening is progressing very slow. Besides that, the Dutch A1 is also very overcrowded over nearly all it's length, and widening is not in the picture yet, so the A37/E233 route can be an alternative, also for medium range traffic between the Dutch provinces of Overijssel and Drenthe to Niedersachsen.
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