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Old August 30th, 2015, 03:39 PM   #8141
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Is it respected? In Italy that sign would be largely ignored.
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Old August 30th, 2015, 03:54 PM   #8142
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I don't think that it's respected.
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Old August 30th, 2015, 06:00 PM   #8143
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Probably in Poland would be installed speed camera
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Old August 30th, 2015, 06:06 PM   #8144
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That usually happens on the famous damaged German Autobahn bridges but many drivers are still caught
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Old August 30th, 2015, 06:15 PM   #8145
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Old August 30th, 2015, 08:52 PM   #8146
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Well, it's an English forum, so you should summarize the article (published on 28th August 2015).

The A7 bridge over the Kiel Canal between North Sea and Baltic Sea (Rader Brücke) is damaged. The maximum speed is limited for cars to 80km/h and for trucks to 60km/h but most of the drivers exceed the limit. For this reason, two speed cameras are installed per direction now. Only trucks are checked and fined for the time being though.
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Old August 30th, 2015, 11:11 PM   #8147
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The A7 bridge over the Kiel Canal between North Sea and Baltic Sea (Rader Brücke) is damaged. The maximum speed is limited for cars to 80km/h and for trucks to 60km/h but most of the drivers exceed the limit.
Since when is that bridge open for trucks?

Several months ago I drove on the A1 Rhine bridge at Leverkusen. This bridge had been closed for all vehicles over 3.5t for several months (it is closed now, too, and will presumably never be opened until a new bridge will be built) and the speed limit is 60 km/h. There are several cameras on the bridge so usually everyone drives between 60-65 km/h. In this case, it was 4AM, the motorway was almost empty. I drove there, strictly 60 km/h. A heavy truck drove behind me, its weight ten times over the limit, and honked, that I should have driven faster.
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Old August 30th, 2015, 11:14 PM   #8148
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Is it respected? In Italy that sign would be largely ignored.
In Germany usually the drivers brake and drive slower than usual but faster than the limit. So at a 40 km/h limit sign a majority if cars drive 60-90 km/h.
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Old August 31st, 2015, 09:19 PM   #8149
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Since when is that bridge open for trucks?
Wie bitte, häh? Sorry, I don't get it. It's opened for trucks since the bridge was opened in 1972.
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Old August 31st, 2015, 10:10 PM   #8150
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Wie bitte, häh? Sorry, I don't get it. It's opened for trucks since the bridge was opened in 1972.
Correct, but it was closed for heavy trucks in 2013, I'm 100% sure about it.
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Old August 31st, 2015, 10:15 PM   #8151
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Ok. It was closed from 26th June 2013 to 8th November 2013 for vehicles > 7.5t. From 9th November to 16th January 2014 it was closed for trucks > 44t.
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Old August 31st, 2015, 10:38 PM   #8152
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Ok. It was closed from 26th June 2013 to 8th November 2013 for vehicles > 7.5t. From 9th November to 16th January 2014 it was closed for trucks > 44t.
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Old August 31st, 2015, 10:48 PM   #8153
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A 7.5 ton limit is quite restrictive. It bans nearly all types of medium to large-sized trucks.

The standard EU weight limit is 40 tons, but countries may allow higher limits (such as 44 tons in Germany and Belgium, 50 tons in NL and even higher limits for longer combination vehicles in several countries).
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Old September 1st, 2015, 12:32 AM   #8154
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The A7 bridge over the Kiel Canal between North Sea and Baltic Sea (Rader Brücke) is damaged. The maximum speed is limited for cars to 80km/h and for trucks to 60km/h but most of the drivers exceed the limit. For this reason, two speed cameras are installed per direction now. Only trucks are checked and fined for the time being though.
Wow, it looks like a quite problematic situation. It's the main road between Central Europe and Denmark/Scandinavia.
I would imagine very serious traffic problems if that bridge will need to be closed for some time.
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Old September 1st, 2015, 02:41 PM   #8155
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Wow, it looks like a quite problematic situation. It's the main road between Central Europe and Denmark/Scandinavia.
I would imagine very serious traffic problems if that bridge will need to be closed for some time.
The other vital link from Germany to Scandinavia, the only road to the Puttgarden ferry terminal, has a 50 km/h speed limit for trucks on the Fehmarnsund Bridge due to the poor condition of the bridge. I suspect it may have been closed to trucks of 7.5+ tons if it was on a less vital location. But that would mean the Puttgarden ferry cannot be reached by trucks any more.
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Old September 1st, 2015, 06:14 PM   #8157
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Are they planning to build a second Fehmarnsund bridge (possible with Autobahn standards) to serve the future Puttgarden-Roedby undersea tunnel?
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Old September 1st, 2015, 11:06 PM   #8158
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It was not planned at all. IIRC, (official) discussion began about two years ago. Bridge(s) or tunnel(s) for railway and/or road.... It's in a very early planning stage though.
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 12:13 AM   #8159
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Construction started on the Oberau bypass between the A95 end and Garmisch. Includes a 3km long 2x2 tunnel and should be reasy in 2021.

Total length of the bypass: 4.2 km / 200 million Euro

I'm not quite sure if this means they will actually extend the A95 or just move the current B road to a new alignment but it is good news anyway
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 06:07 AM   #8160
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There will be no extension of the A95. The design of the Oberau as well as Farchant bypass does not follow autobahn standards.
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