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Old October 19th, 2015, 09:48 PM   #8221
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wow. just wow.
I drive on that bridge every day. I can write a daily progress report here if you want.

Day 678: Today, someone dropped off a shovel.

Day 891: Saw two workers on the construction site. One was eating a sandwich.

Day 1365: A crew came to install some cones but it was too hot and they left.

Day 2134: ...
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Old October 19th, 2015, 10:27 PM   #8222
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Aren't people in Germany fed up with that? The media writes about 'marode infrastruktur' almost daily, but I rarely see them touch upon the extremely slow progress of roadworks. Germany is really an exception in Europe with the slow progress of road works, rivaled perhaps only by Switzerland.

In southern countries where workers are supposedly 'lazy' (or similar stereotypes, defended by unions) like France or Spain things are done much quicker.

For example, Sweden built 17 kilometers of motorway around Ulricehamn in 2.5 years. It included several bridges (longest: 320 m) and a twin-tube tunnel (400 m). To compare, the construction of A33 from Borgholzhausen to Bielefeld (20 km) started in 2009 and may be completed partially in 2016 (7 years), or A49 from Neuental to Schwalmstadt: 7 years for 12 km or A30 around Bad Oeynhausen 9 years for 10 km, assuming no further delays.

And then there are even more extreme projects, such as the A66 in near Fulda, 9 years for 3.5 km of motorway, or the replacement of the Stör Bridge and upgrade of B5 to A23 near Itzehoe: 9 years for 8 km, or A46 near Bestwig: 9 years for a 6 km extension. Not to mention the upgrade of A661 to full profile or A100 in Berlin.
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Old October 19th, 2015, 10:56 PM   #8223
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Only if they're standing in traffic jams generated by construction sites. Otherwise people are first and foremost NIMBYs with regard to construction.

There's also of course other examples in Germany, such as the A8 widening with 41 km length built, 76 bridges torn down and newly built and 18 km of noise barriers constructed - in only 4 years (and it ended on time in September!).
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What's the width of one carriageway on the reconstructed section of A6 near Nürnberg? It seemed narrower than for example the modernised D1 in Czech Republic and just about the same width as D1 between Brno and Vyškov which is only 2+1.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 01:10 AM   #8225
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What's the width of one carriageway on the reconstructed section of A6 near Nürnberg?
11.5 m

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Old October 20th, 2015, 01:12 AM   #8226
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There's also of course other examples in Germany, such as the A8 widening with 41 km length built, 76 bridges torn down and newly built and 18 km of noise barriers constructed - in only 4 years (and it ended on time in September!).
Thats a road built on private risk of time and money. This fits the behaviour in some other countries. And, a miracle, if the companys cannot spend public money without responsibility, they finish in time and within budget.

There are other examples like this which were in the media, but until now there were no big changes in road building policy.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 02:07 AM   #8227
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Aren't people in Germany fed up with that? The media writes about 'marode infrastruktur' almost daily, but I rarely see them touch upon the extremely slow progress of roadworks. Germany is really an exception in Europe with the slow progress of road works, rivaled perhaps only by Switzerland.
I guess the surprisingly polite "Wir Bauen fuer Sie" signs calm people down
They certainly have lots of text you can observe while driving so slow

I'm already annoyed by an overpass reconstruction project near my office... the sign says... December 2016. WTF they are not even reconstructing the overpass, just rehabilitating... the traffic jam caused by the lane reduction from 6 to four makes it take forever to get on the highway...
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Old October 20th, 2015, 12:40 PM   #8228
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11.5m
Interesting. Modernised D1 is only 0,25m wider, but driving on it feels much more comfortable.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 08:09 PM   #8229
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There's also of course other examples in Germany, such as the A8 widening with 41 km length built, 76 bridges torn down and newly built and 18 km of noise barriers constructed - in only 4 years (and it ended on time in September!).
Call me a nitpicker but... The contract deadline was late September 2015 and it was officially inaugurated on time but it's not yet 2x3 lanes on the entire section. A 7.4km section near Zusmarshausen is delayed. The 3rd lane of the westbound carriageway was announced to be opened yesterday, the 3rd lane of the eastbound carriageway is announced to be opened on 2nd November 2015. Source (Die A8 ist eröffnet – und doch nicht fertig; A8 is opened - but not yet completed).
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A46 Talbrücke Nuttlar

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I also drove by the Talbrücke Nuttlar, this is part of the Autobahn A46 extension from Bestwig to Olsberg. This is the highest bridge in North Rhine-Westphalia, the bridge deck is 115 meters above the valley.

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Some (great) aerial pics: http://www.derwesten.de/region/rhein...d11195766.html.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 08:32 PM   #8231
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Those are great photos! You can see why engineers sometimes call bridges a work of art(ificial) structure.

Apparently the A46 won't open in 2016, BMVI talks about 2018 and I've read somewhere that a Strassen.NRW guy said it might not open until 2019.
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in Italian, French, Portuguese and even in Dutch tunnels, bridges, underpasses and so on are collectively called "work of art". This term is used (translated in these languages) especially in transport infrastructure to define everything that is not a simple rail/road/pipeline/other transport infrastructure on a flat land or on an embarkment. But I have never seen it used in English or German, with this meaning.
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In Germany there are basicly 2 problems:

-> too less money for infrastructure

-> split up the money for example for 2 projects and start 8 and all waiting for money and you see this "fast" construction,
other countries:
start 2 projects in year 1, finish it end of year 2
start 2 projects in year 3, finish it end of year 4
start 2 projects in year 5, finish it end of year 6
start 2 projects in year 7, finish it end of year 8
germany:
start 8 projects in year 1, finish ALL end of year 8

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But I have never seen it used in English or German, with this meaning.
The German term is Kunstbauwerk / Kunstbau - which can also be translated to building of art, but is actually a shortening of artificial building.
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Expressway along Lahn river with variable arrangement of a road. It aspires into 4 lanes for its entire recorded length.
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The next 3.8km long section from Walmersbach to Hinterweidenthal (B327) is u/c (OSM). It is not only a simple addition of a 2nd carriageway but a realignment. The plan approval order was passed in September 2009, works started in June 2010 and completion is estimated for 2016 (34 million €).
They splitted the 3.8km long section into 2 phases. The groundbreaking ceremony for the 2nd phase will be on 23th August 2013. A state secretary of the Federal Ministry of Transport will participate.
The estimated completion date of the 2nd phase is now 2018.
B10: Wallmersbach – west of Hinterweidenthal 2.1km (June 2010 to 2018) – projectmap
B10: west of Hinterweidenthal – Hinterweidenthal 1.7km (September 2013 to 2018) – projectmap


The 1.8km** 4-laned section b/n Walmersbach and west of the L487 will be opened on 30th October 2015. Source (2).

** That means only a part of the first section will be opened. I'd like to say it's the major part but the section is very short in spite of everything.
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Happened openings in 2014

New motorways:
A4: AS Düren – AS Kerpen (1x3) 12.9km (September 2008 to 17th September 2014) [direction Cologne]projectmap
A4: AS Düren – AS Kerpen (2x3) 12.9km (September 2008 to 20th September 2014) [direction Aachen; discontinuation: 12.8km]projectmap
A4: AS Magdala – AS Jena-Göschwitz (1x3) 11.8km (May 2007 to 30th October 2014) [direction Erfurt]projectmap
A4: AS Magdala – AS Jena-Göschwitz (2x3) 11.8km (May 2007 to 18th November 2014) [direction Dresden; discontinuation: 12.6km]projectmap
A14: AS Colbitz – AS Wolmirstedt (2x2) 5.7km (November 2011 to 29th October 2014) – ? – map
A21: south of Nettelsee – Stolpe (2x2) 2km (February 2012 to 2nd December 2014) – projectmap
A26: AS Horneburg – AS Jork (1x2) 4.6km (Summer 2006 to 28th November 2014) [direction Stade]projectmap
A30: AS Bad Oeynhausen-North – AS Dehme (2x2) 1.6km (September 2008 to 12th March 2014) – projectmap
A44: AS Hessisch Lichtenau-West – AS Hessisch Lichtenau-Center (2x2) 2.2km (April 2008 to 24th July 2014) – projectmap
A66: AS Neuhof-South – AS Neuhof-North (2x2) 3.7km (October 2005 to 13th September 2014) – projectmap
A281: AS Bremen-Seehausen – AS Bremen-Strom (2x2) 4.1km (April 2009 to 29th September 2014) – projectmap
A524: west of AK Duisburg-South – west of AS Duisburg-Rahm (2x2) 1.9km (February 2010 to Early July 2014) – ? – map

Motorway upgrade (adding 2nd carriageway):
A62: south of AS Weselberg – Schwarzbach viaduct (2x2) 3.6km (September 2013 to Late September 2014) [2nd c/w] – ? – map

Motorway widenings:
A1: AK Münster-Süd (A43) – Dortmund Ems canal (2x3) 3.2km (October 2012 to 8th October 2014) – projectmap
A5: north of AS Appenweier – north of AS Offenburg (2x3) 5.5km (October 2011 to 16th July 2014) – projectmap
A8: east of Klosterwegbrücke – east of AS Pforzheim-West (2x3) ~3km (August 2009 to 27th November 2014) – projectmap
A8: east of AS Günzburg – west of AS Burgau (2x3) 7.3km (August 2011 to 18th September 2014) – projectmap
A8: east of AS Burgau – west of AS Zusmarshausen (2x3) 5.7km (August 2011 to 20th October 2014) – projectmap
A8: west of AS Adelsried – west of AS Neusäß (2x3) 8.2km (August 2011 to 11th August 2014) – projectmap
A8: Bergen viaduct (2x3) 1.3km (May 2010 to 26th November 2014) [2x2 for the time being] – projectmap
A9: AS Triptis – south of AS Triptis (2x3) 3.0km (October 2011 to 4th June 2014) – projectmap
A9: south of AS Triptis – AS Ditterdorf (2x3) 7.0km (October 2011 to <= 7th November 2014) – projectmap
A9: AS Dittersdorf – north of AS Schleiz (2x3) 9.0km (October 2011 to <= 7th November 2014) – projectmap
A10: AD Havelland (A24) – Klein-Ziethen (2x3) 2.4km (Sepember 2012 to 18th November 2014) – projectmap
A24: AS Kremmen – AD Havelland (2x3) 3.0km (Sepember 2012 to 18th November 2014) – projectmap
A57: AS Holzbüttgen – AK Neuss-West (A46) (2x3) ?km (2009 to June 2014) – projectmap
A59: AS Duisburg-Center – Grunewald bridge (2x3) ?km (2008 to April 2014) – projectmap

New expressways:
B2: AS Roth-Otto-Lilienthal-Kaserne – south of Untersteinbach (2x2) 3.3km (October 2012 to 5th December 2014) – projectmap
B50: AK Wittlich – AS Platten (2x2) 5.4km (May 2003 to 15th December 2014) – projectmap
B243: AS Bad Lauterberg – AS Bad Sachsa (2x2) 8.6km (October 2008 to 5th September 2014) – projectmap

New B roads and B road bypasses:
B4: Kirchweyhe bypass (2+1) 2.1km (May 2012 to 13th May 2014) – projectmap
B16: Marktoberdorf bypass 1.9km (July 2013 to 16th April 2014) [1st section] – projectmap
B19: Wernshausen – Niederschmalkalden 3.9km (June 2010 to 15th May 2014) – projectmap
B19: Bad Mergentheim bypass 2.7km (May 2013 to 27th October 2014) – ? – map
B25: Wallerstein/Ehringen bypass (2+1) 3.6km (June 2013 to 13th September 2014) – projectmap
B28: Oberkirch/Lautenbach bypass ~6km (May 2007 to 26th August 2014) – ? – map
B45: Nidderau bypass (B45/B521-North – K246) 0.8km (September 2009 to 30th October 2014) – projectmap
B57: Baesweiler bypass (L255 – L240) 3.0km (October 2011 to 25th February 2014) – ? – map
B58: Büderich bypass 4.3km (September 2010 to 6th March 2014) – projectmap
B75: Dibbersen bypass (partial 2+2) 2.7km (July 2012 to 19th December 2014) – projectmap
B101: Krögis bypass 1.7km (September 2013 to Late August 2014) – ? – map
B104: Schlutup bypass 2.0km (November 2006 to 31st October 2014) – ? – map
B169: Göltzschtal bypass (S278 – B94) 0.8km (September 2012 to 2014) – projectmap
B185: AS Bernburg/Nienburg (L65) – AS Bernburg-East (2+1) 4.6km (2010 to 29th May 2014) – ? – map
B185: west of Kleinpaschleben – Köthen-East (2+1) 13.5km (March 2011 to 16th December 2014) – ? – map
B207: AS Lübeck-South (A20) – south of Pogeez 5.3km (2011 to 23rd December 2014) – projectmap
B256: Rengsdorf bypass (partial 2+1) 4.2km (July 2006 to 23rd September 2014) – projectmap
B256: Kruft bypass 3.5km (December 2009 to 29th July 2014) – ? – map
B458: Dipperz bypass 3.9km (June 2010 to 20th August 2014) – projectmap
B462: Dunningen bypass 6.4km (September 2009 to 29th August 2014) – ? – map
B464: south of Renningen (L1185) – Magstadt (K1006) 1.2km (July 2012 to 10th April 2014) – ? – map
B521: Nidderau bypass (B521-North – B45/B521-North) 2.6km (September 2009 to 30th September 2014) – projectmap

B road widenings:
B12: AS Kraftisried – Unterthingau (2+1) 3.3km (Early 2014 to September 2014) – projectmap
B14: Danube bridge Tuttlingen (2x2) 0.6km (August 2013 to November 2014) – projectmap
B17: Hohenwart (LL16) – Denklingen-North (LL17) (2+1) 1.3km (March 2014 to September 2014) – projectmap
B41: AS Ingelheim-West – Ingelheim (L419) (2x2) 0.7km (September 2013 to Summer 2014) – ? – map
B85: Steinbach am Wald – Hirschfeld (2+1) 1.4km (March 2013 to May 2014) – projectmap
B85: March (REG5) – west of Metten (2+1) 1.5km (August 2013 to 12th September 2014) – projectmap
B174: Chemnitz-Südring – Ortsausgang Chemnitz (Gornauer Straße) (2x2) 1.3km (September 2012 to 12th December 2014) – ? – map
B286: south of AS Alitzheim – north of AS Gerolzhofen-North (2+1) ~1.3km (July 2013 to 8th December 2014) – projectmap
B463: AS Weilstetten – Lochenbach viaduct (2+1) ~1km (2012 to 21st November 2014) – ? – map
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Happened and expected openings in 2015

2013 summary: > click <.

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2015 summary including expected openings:


New motorways:
A14: AK Schwerin – AS Grabow (2x2) 14.4km (November 2012 to Mid December 2015) – ? – map
A14: AS Groß Warnow – AS Karstädt (2x2) 10.8km (October 2013 to Late 2015) – projectmap
A23: AS Itzehoe-Center – south of Stör bridge (2x2) 2.5km (January 2007 to 26th October 2015) – projectmap
A26: AS Horneburg – AS Jork (2x2) 4.6km (Summer 2006 to 17th July 2015) [direction Hamburg]projectmap
A71: Etzleben – AS Sömmerda-East (2x2) 11.4km (June 2010 to 3rd September 2015) – projectmap
A448: rededication AD Bochum-West – AS Bochum-South (2x2) 5.0km (Mid 2015) – projectmap

Motorway widenings:
A3: Kauppenbrücke – AS Rohrbrunn (2x3) 8km (April 2013 to Mid November 2015) [partial 4 eastbound lanes]projectmap
A3: Main-Donube-Canal bridge (2x3) 1,3km (April 2014 to Late 2015) – projectmap
A4: AS Düren – east of AS Düren (2x3) 2.2km (? to 12th June 2015) – projectmap
A4: west of AS Kerpen – AS Kerpen (2x3) 2,2km (March 2015 to Late 2015) – projectmap
A8: east of AS Karlsbad – east of Klosterwegbrücke (2x3) ~6km (August 2009 to 26th 06 2015) – projectmap
A8: Temmenhausen – west of AS Ulm-West (2x3) 7.8km (May 2012 to 24th 09 2015) – projectmap
A8: west of AS Burgau – east of AS Burgau (2x3) 5.7km (August 2011 to Late July/Early August 2015) – projectmap
A8: west of AS Zusmarshausen – west of AS Adelsried (2x3) 7,4km (August 2011 to 2nd November 2015) – projectmap
A8: west of AS Neusäß – AS Neusäß (2x3) ~5.0km (August 2011 to September 2015) – projectmap
A8: AS Neusäß – AS Augsburg-West (2x3) ~2.7km (August 2011 to June 2015) – projectmap
A10: east of AD Pankow (A114) – Berlin/Brandenburg border (2x3) 5,4km (2009 to Early November 2015) – projectmap
A40: Walzwerkstraße – AD Bochum-West (A448) (2x3) ~2km (Late 2009 to 18th June 2015) – projectmap
A57: AK Kaarst (A52) – AS Holzbüttgen (2x3) ?km (November 2013 to December 2015) – projectmap

New expressways:
B10: Walmersbach – west of Hinterweidenthal (2x2) 1.8km (June 2010 to 30th October 2015) – projectmap
B535: AS Mannheim-Friedrichsfeld – AS Schwetzingen-Center (2x2) 1.9km (December 2010 to Mid December 2015) [2nd c/w] – projectmap

New B roads and B road bypasses:
B2R: AS München-Sendling-Plinganserstraße (B11) – AS München-Sendling (A96) (2x3) 2.8km (August 2009 to 27th July 2015) – projectmap
B15: AS Rosenheim-West (A8) – AS Kolbermoor (St2078) 3.5km (August 2012 to 12th October 2015) – projectmap
B16: Dillingen bypass (2+1) 9.4km (June 2012 to 15th September 2015) – projectmap
B27: Waake bypass (2+1) 2.5km (March 2010 to 18th August 2015) – projectmap
B45: Nidderau bypass (K246 – B45-South) 3.9km (September 2009 to 22nd June 2015) – projectmap
B48: Enkenbach-Alsenborn bypass 0.7km (September 2009 to 09th October 2015) – ? – map
B68: Essen bypass 4.1km (August 2012 to 12th October 2015) – projectmap
B96n: AS Samtens-Ost – Scharpitz (2+1) 11.5km (June 2011 to November 2015) – projectmap
B109: Anklam bypass 1.7km (July 2011 to 08th May 2015) – ? – map
B112: Brieskow-Finkenheerd/Wiesenau bypass (2+1) 10.0km (April 2012 to Late 2015) – projectmap
B212: Huntebrück-North – Huntebrück-South 1.5km (July 2009 to October 2015) – projectmap
B237: Wipperfürth bypass 0.5km (January 2013 to Spring 2015) – ? – map
B245: Bebertal bypass 4.8km (September 2013 to 14th September 2015) – ? – map
B247: Duderstadt bypass (west of Westerode (B446) – north of Tiftlingerorde) 3.3km (July 2012 to 16th October 2015) – projectmap
B249: Frieda bypass 2.2km (July 2013 to 12th September 2015) – projectmap
B255: AS Oberahr – north of Ettinghausen ?km (July 2007 to 25th March 2015) – ? – map
B304: Realignment near Mühlreit 2.0km (September 2011 to 23rd October 2015) – projectmap

B road widenings:
B12: Unterthingau – AS Geisenried (2+1) 3.3km (2nd quarter 2015 to August 2015) – projectmap
B16: Ernsgaden-West – AS Ernsgaden-East (2+1) 3km (September 2014 to 4th December 2015) – ? – map
B16: AS Bernhardswald – Wenzenbach (2+1) 2.6km (November 2014 to 11th September 2015) – projectmap
B28: K1029 – Herrenberg (2+1) 0,9km (July 2015 to Late 2015) – projectmap
B41: east of Waldböckelheim – Waldböckelheim-Reitweg (2x2) 1.1km (September 2012 to 10th September 2015) – projectmap
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Old October 25th, 2015, 06:28 PM   #8239
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A23 Stör bridge Itzehoe

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The opening ceremony (with live music etcetera) of the Stör bridge will be on 24th October 2015 and both carriageways will probable get into service on 26th October 2015 but one lane per direction only. Each 2nd lane should be in service till 10th November 2015. See press release.
The opening ceremony was yesterday. The new bridge (2nd carriageway) will be opened 1-laned tomorrow. It's reported that the other carriageway will be opened 2-laned. 2 lanes per carriageway will be opened on 10th November 2015. Here's a nice video with aerial view and a little historicial view: > click <. The entire project has a lengths of 7.5km and costs 159 million €, see press release. The final section will be opened in June 2016.
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A14 Schwerin - Magdeburg

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It's reported that the section in Mecklenburg-West Pomerania will be in service from Mid of December 2015. The Brandenburg section is still announced "to be opened in late 2015" (source).

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The Mecklenburg-West Pomerania Ministry of Transport said that their section will be opened in December 2015. The Brandenburg Mistry of Transport said that their section will be opened in Mid or Late December 2015. The Saxony-Anhalt Ministry of Transport assumes that the entire A14 will be completed by 2020. Source.
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