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Old January 5th, 2016, 08:54 PM   #8401
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Wow, only 2 km of expressway opened to traffic. I thought there would've been more, but I suppose they opened most of them in December 2014.
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Old January 5th, 2016, 09:30 PM   #8402
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Wow, only 2 km of expressway opened to traffic. I thought there would've been more, but I suppose they opened most of them in December 2014.
Only 11km opened in December 2014.

Most projects have been opened 2011 in recent years:

HE B49 östl. AS Oberbiel-Ost – westl. Einhausung Wetzlar-Dalheim (2+2) 2,1km (2006 to 8. Februar 2010) [widening] - projectmap
ST B6 AS Güsten – AS Ilberstedt (2+2) 5,7km (09-08 to 28. September 2010) - map
BY B173 AS Neuses – Kronach (2+2) 1,8km (05-09 to 6. Dezember 2010) [widening] - projectmap
BW B535 AS MA-Friedrichsfeld – AS Schwetzingen-Zent. 1,9km (02-02 to 22. Dezember 2010) [1.RFB] - projectmap
BW B535 AS Schwetzingen-Zent. – westl. AS Kurpfalzhof (2+2) ~3,0km (02-02 to 22. Dezember 2010) - projectmap

SH B404 AS Kiel-Neumeimersdorf – AS Kiel-Wellseedamm (2+2) 2,3km (2004 to Anfang 2011) [widening] - projectmap
HE B3 Wolfshausen – Niederweimar (2+2) 4,6km (08-07 to 11. Mai 2011) - map
BY B15n AD Saalhaupt (A93) – AS Schierling-Süd (2+2) 9,4km (07-06 to 26. Juli 2011) - projectmap
BW B10 AS Süßen-Süd – AS Süßen-Ost (2+2) 2,1km (2008 to 19. September 2011) - projectmap
BY B15n AS Schierling-Süd – AS Neufahrn (2+2) 11,4km (07-06 to 18. November 2011) - projectmap
RP B50 AS Niederkonstenz – AS Kauerhof (2+2) 7,5km (06-09 to 18. November 2011) [widening] - map
ST B81 AS Altenweddingen – Egeln-Nord (2+2) 5,4km (2010 to 28. November 2011) [widening] - map
BY B300 südl. AS Aichach-West – östl. AS Aichach-West (2+2) 0,8km (10-10 to 8. Dezember 2011) [widening] - projectmap
ST B6 AS Ilberstedt – AS Bernburg (A14) (2+2) 2,5km (04-10 to 19. Dezember 2011) - map
ST B185 AS Bernburg (A14) – Bernburg-West (2+2) 1,0km (04-10 to 19. Dezember 2011) - map
ST B185 Bernburg-West – Bernburg/Nienburg (L65) (2+2) 2,7km (2010 to 19. Dezember 2011) - map

BW B27 AS Dußlingen – AS Nehren 3,3km (02-10 to 15. März 2012) [1.RFB; Tunnel] - projectmap
NW B8n südl. AK Duisburg-Süd – AS Düsseldorf-Froschenteich (2+2) 1,4km (02-10 to 1. Juni 2012) - map
SN B169 AS Seerhausen – AS Riesa-Pausitz (2+2) ~5km (08-09 to 24. September 2012) - map
RP B10 Wasserturm – AS Pirmasens-Haseneck (2+2) 0,7km (06-07 to 7. November 2012) [widening] - projectmap
BW B33 AS Reichenau – Landeplatz (2+2) 0,9km (09-09 to 19. November 2012) [widening] - map
NW B61 AS Bielefeld-Brackwede – AS BI-Brackwede (A33) (2+2) 1,4km (06-07 to 5. Dezember 2012) - projectmap
TH B243 AS Großwech. (K4) – AS Großwechsungen (A38) (2+2) 3,5km (08-09 to 5. Dezember 2012) - map
BW B27 AS Dußlingen – AS Nehren (2+2) 3,3km (03-12 to 11. September 2013) [2.RFB; Tunnel] - projectmap
HE B49 Beselich/Merenberg – AS Merenberg/Allendorf-Ost (2+2) 3,1km (2008 to 7. Dezember 2012) [widening] - projectmap

BB B101 Wiesenhagen – AS Luckenwalde-Nord (2+2) 4,8km (10-10 to 18. März 2013) [widening] - projectmap
HE B49 AS Obertiefenbach-Ost – Deponie Beselich (2+2) 0,9km (09-12 to 15. August 2013) [widening] - projectmap
SN B174 Ortsausgang Chemnitz (Gornauer Straße) – Gornau (2+2) 4,7km (12-10 to 19. November 2013) - map
BY B15n AS Neufahrn – AS Ergoldsbach (2+2) 7,2km (08-09 to 2. Dezember 2013) - projectmap

BY B2 AS RH-Otto-Lilienthal-Kaserne – südl. Untersteinbach (2+2) 3,3km (10-12 to 5. Dezember 2014) - projectmap
SN B174 C-Südring – Ortsausgang Chemnitz (Gornauer Str.) (2+2) 1,3km (09-12 to 12. Dezember 2014) [widening] - map
RP B50 AK Wittlich – AS Platten (2+2) 5,4km (05-03 to 15. Dezember 2014) - projectmap

RP B41 östl. Waldböckelheim – Waldböckelheim-Reitweg (2+2) 1,1km (09-12 to 10. September 2015) [widening] - projectmap
RP B10 Walmersbach – westl. Hinterweidenthal (2+2) 1,8km (06-10 to 30. Oktober 2015) - projectmap

BW B535 AS MA-Friedrichsfeld – AS Schwetzingen-Zent. (2+2) 1,9km (12-10 to Mitte 2016) [2.RFB] - projectmap
BW B33 AS Offenburg-Zunsweier – AS Gengenbach-Nord (2+2) 2,8km (10-10 to September 2016) [widening] - map

RP B266 AS Bad Neuenahr (A573) – AS Bad Neuenahr-Ost (2+2) 1,8km (02-09 to Mitte 2017) - projectmap
BY B85 Piendling – Untertraubenbach (2+2) 3,2km (03-14 to Oktober 2017) [widening] - projectmap
BW B33 Waldsiedlung – AS Reichenau (2+2) 0,9km (06-14 to Ende 2017) [widening] - map
HE B49 AS Solms – östl. AS Oberbiel-Ost (2+2) 3,2km (05-10 to Ende 2017) [widening] - projectmap

BW B33 AS Offenburg-Elgersweier (B3) – AS Offenburg-Zunsweier (2+2) 2,4km (10-10 to Anfang 2018) [widening] - map
RP B10 AS Hinterweidenthal – östl. Hinterweidenthal (2+2) 1,3km (09-13 to 2018) - projectmap
BW B29 östl. Böbingen – westl. Essingen (2+2) 6,9km (07-15 to 2018) - projectmap
BW B30 AS Ravensburg-Süd – AS Karrer (2+2) 3,4km (07-13 to 2018) - projectmap
RP B49 Deponie Beselich – Beselich/Merenberg (2+2) 3,4km (05-11 to 2018) - projectmap
RP B50 AS Platten – östl. AS Lösnich (2+2) 19,9km (07-09 to 2018) - projectmap
BY B300 nördl. AS Dasing (A8) – südl. AS Aichach-West (2+2) 4,2km (10-14 to 2018) [widening] - projectmap
NW B51 AS Münster-Warendorfer Str. (B481) – AS Münster-Wolbecker Str. (2+2) 2,7km (06-15 to Ende 2018) [widening] - projectmap
BB B101 AS Thyrow – AS Trebbin-Nord (2+2) 5km (05-15 to Ende 2018) - projectmap

NW B265 Hürth-Efferen (L92) – Hürth-Hermülheim-Süd (2+2) 3,8km (11-15 to Mai 2019) - map
BY B15n AS Ergoldsbach – AS Essenbach (A92) (2+2) 9km (08-13 to 2019) - projectmap
BW B33 AS Allensbach-West – AS Allensbach-Mitte (2+2) 3,6km (11-15 to 2019) - map

BW B31 Immenstaad – AS Friedrichshafen/Waggershausen (2+2) 7,1km (11-14 to Ende 2020) - projectmap

BY B2 AS Oberau-Nord – AS Oberau-Süd (2+2) 4,2km (09-15 to Ende 2021) [Tunnel] - projectmap

2010: 14.5km
2011: 49.7km
2012: 22.6km
2013: 19.6km
2014: 10.0km
2015: 2.9km
2016: 4.7km
2017: 3.2km
2018: 49.2km
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Old January 6th, 2016, 03:15 PM   #8403
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I have been in Germany some months ago and I saw a lot of works of improvements of the highways on going, I asked to my fellow germans guys from my company and they told me that there was a big plan for modernization of the autobahns that consists to prepare them for the next 20 years, according to them the works were related to construct one more lane in some sections, improvement of the surface of the highway, etc.

MichiH, do you have more information about this plan?
There is no "big plan for modernization of the autobahns" but politicians often announce populist things. Joe Doe's (ordinary citizens) usually don't know the details and are happy about these announcements but also disappointed if they realize one day that it was nothing but hot air.

The budget for transport infrastructure projects has been raised. This achievement was repeated again and again last year.

And there's currently a "big demand plan" in preparation. The Bundesverkehrswegeplan 2015 (Federal traffic road plan 2015) is a law which should be passed by the Bundestag this year. It's a 10-20 year demand plan for construction of new federal roads (Autobahn and Bundesstraße) and widening of existing federal roads (except 2+1 widening) but it's not a financing plan and it does not contain renovation projects (without adding new lanes).

The current demand plan (BVWP 2003, passed in 2004) sorts projects by two categories: Urgent demand (~ 2003-15) and further demand. Urgent demand means that the Federal Government allows the road authorities (which are organized by the 16 states/"Bundesländer") to start the planning procedures. Once a project has building permits (which can take decades but usually minimum 5 years), the projects could be funded by the Federal Government via the annual Federal budget (which is quite stupid but politicians love it because they can show off... It's usually announced by the counties' politicians, that projects are finally funded and a complete project list is usually not published).

Anyway, there's a preliminary draft for the new BVWP 2015 from September 2014, the final draft was announced to be published in first quarter 2015, delayed to Mid 2015, delayed to Fall 2015, delayed to first quarter 2016 and it's announced to be published in Mid March 2016 now (it's to be discussed in a Bundestag conference from 14th to 18th March). Some state's Ministers of Transport have recently complained that the demand plan is published after their state's election in early March 2016........

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I was near Dusseldorf and I saw lot of work there, and then I was north to Hamburg and the same picture there, lot of work on going.
There's an overview of the projects from the Düsseldorf area (2015-17): http://www.strassen.nrw.de/projekte/...bstpl-ddf.html (map). Most of the list are just renovation works like new road surface or bridge renovation. Only 4 projects are part of the BVWP 2003 (demand plan which has been passed in 2004). Again, renovation works are not part of any "big plan" and are only organzied by the state's road authorities. It's funded by a general amount via the annual Federal budget. The road authorities can assign these funding "as desired". They can request more money before the budget law is fixed though. And if state's could not invest their budget, other state's can get the money. This movement is usually done too late (in fall) because the money must usually be invested till the end of the year.


The A7 b/n Hamburg and Bordesholm - west of Kiel - is currently widened as a PPP project. 64km are widened from 2x2 to 2x3 lanes from late 2014 to early 2018. 4 sections are currently u/c, 4 section will be widened 2017/18. That means, the construction period for each section is usually 2-3 years.

In addition, an A7 section in Hamburg is currenty widened from 2x3 to 2x4 lanes. It a 4.2km section south of A23 and it's funded conventionally and it's a more complex because it's an urban area and a housing is built. For that reason, the construction time is June 2014 to 2020.

Both A7 projects are contained in the BVWP 2003.

I've recently posted a list of u/c Autobahn widening projects since 2010: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=8385.
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Old January 6th, 2016, 09:14 PM   #8404
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Michi, and Chris, and lots of others following German policy decisions know this, but to everyone else:

Do note that there's loads of stuff from the so-called 'urgent demand' list in the 2003 BVWP where to this date almost has been done! Maybe some planning, maybe some surveying, maybe some hopeful boasts during political campaigns or in the local media, but no concrete (or asphalt, haha) results.

IMO the bottleneck is that the German state apparatus seems paranoid about long-term allocation of funds to properly fix their infrastructure. Whether because of cultural factors, paranoia, neoliberal influences, whatever.
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In addition to the funding problem (lack of money for transportation but also lack of proper assignment of the money, e.g. medium-term planning), there's a general German problem with major projects: BER (Berlin Airport), S21 (Stuttgart rainload station), Elb Philharmonic Hall Hamburg,...

But our beloved politicians had a great idea: Construction of Major Projects Reform Commission. Mr. Dobrindt has recently published a press release: > click < (German). The Federal Government has passed an action plan for the introduction of BIM (Building Information Modeling) by 2020. Digitization of planning and building...........
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Old January 7th, 2016, 02:48 AM   #8406
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Some stuff in the 2015 BVWP is still rather ridiculous.

Example:
  • 32 BW 32 A 6 AK Mannheim AS Schwetzingen/Hockenheim - Erweiterung auf 6 Fahrstreifen
  • 33 BW 33 A 6 AD Hockenheim AK Walldorf - Erweiterung auf 8 Fahrstreifen
That leaves a hole between AS Schwetzingen/Hockenheim and AD Hockenheim. Reason is of course that at AD Hockenheim A61 branches off from the A6, and at AS Schwetzingen/Hockenheim the Yellow Autobahn B36 branches off. About 2 km where the A6 coming from North will drop from 3+3 to 2+2 and then suddenly becomes 4+4.

That A61 branch-off? Will be 2+2 for the next 5 km to the border, then planned to be expanded to 3+3 on the RLP side for the next 40 km. That B36 branch-off? Will stay like today, 2+2 for the next 5 km along Hockenheim and then immediately down to 1+1 so suddenly the 50 limit warning signs can't really become any bigger than they already are.
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Some stuff in the 2015 BVWP is still rather ridiculous.
The draft must be taken with a grain of salt. There's a note on page 1: ""Bei Gesamtprojekten mit Teilprojekten werden nur die Teilprojekte dargestellt, da sich im Zug der Projektbewertungen Änderungen der Gesamtprojektzuschnitte ergeben können" --> "Overall projects with sub projects are represented as sub projects only because it's possible that the overall project layout could be modified during the project evaluation" .
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A30 Bad Oeynhausen / B49 Limburg - Wetzlar

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There's some trouble about the construction contract of the Löhne i/c "Kreuz Löhne" (15 million €). A bidder was excluded of the tender procedure because the bidder made a formal error. A complaint of the company was rejected by the procurement chamber ("Vergabekammer") in June. Now, the company went to court. The hearing will be in October 2015. Afterwards, the contract should be awarded short-term. Thus, the planned completion (Late 2016, which is a confirmation to my previous assumption) is delayed. It's not possible to term a completion date. See press release.

I guess, it will be delayed by (minimum) 6 months. That means 2017. In addition, I don't think that the eastern section will be opened in late 2016 but together with the western section to avoid getting traffic on the new road by mistake which would lead them on streets through residential areas (L772).
The court decided that it was not correct to exclude the company from the tender procedure. The crux is the planning of a falsework (Planung eines Traggerüsts) which costs about 1,500 €. The order size is 15,000,000 €. Construction works were planned to begin in May 2015 but will begin in spring 2016 at the earliest. Source.
The contract should be awarded in February 2016. Construction works should begin in spring 2016 and the bypass should be opened for traffic in 2018 (source). (works last 3 years including "Beböschung" - I've never heard this word, I guess it's "Bepflanzung der Böschung" = planting of the batter).

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B49: Deponie Beselich – Beselich/Merenberg 3.4km (May 2011 to Late 2017) – projectmap

The updated completion date of section no. 3 is 2018.
The construction of a 275m viaduct began. The estimated opening date is spring 2018 (source).


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So that makes 10 years of construction time for a 10 kilometer motorway link. That's freaking unbelievable.
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B221n

The Dutch province of Limburg is very happy with the fact that the L42n upgrade in Nordrhein-Westfalen has now been given the status of B221n and could be adopted in the next Bundesverkehrswegeplan.

B221n would link Geilenkirchen with Landgraaf, connecting two high-standard roads, the B56 around Geilenkirchen and the currently under construction expressways around Landgraaf and other cities that form a conurbation.

Some history:

The upgrade was originally planned as a state road (L42n), an environmental impact assessment (Umweltverträglichkeitsstudie) was positively concluded in 2010. However, it only had 2nd priority in the state road plan of Nordrhein-Westfalen. There was no funding to upgrade it to 1st priority. The state decided to submit the upgrade as a federal road B221n to the federal highway plan (Bundesverkehrswegeplan).

Limburg seems to think it is now set in stone that the project will advance quickly, but this remains to be seen, given the large volume of projects submitted by the states and the lack of funding to fulfill all those wishes. Especially because this route isn't exactly a major issue for domestic traffic in Germany. And if it advances into construction, it may take a long time to get it completed, similar to the slow progress on the B56n from the Dutch border to A46 (six years of construction for a three-lane road through undeveloped terrain).

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B221n would link Geilenkirchen with Landgraaf, connecting two high-standard roads, the B56 around Geilenkirchen
A B221 upgrade to 4 lanes from Geilenkrichen to A46 is also submitted for the new BVWP.

It was planned to build a new B road (B258) south of Kerkrade (info with map). It has urgent demand in the current BVWP 2003 but it's not submitted for the new BVWP 2015.

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And if it advances into construction, it may take a long time to get it completed, similar to the slow progress on the B56n from the Dutch border to A46 (six years of construction for a three-lane road through undeveloped terrain).
6 years? That applies for the last section only. The groundbreaking ceremony for the first section (5.8km) was on 4th May 2007 (source). The section was opened on 3rd November 2008 (source). The construction of the 2nd section (4.4km) began in October 2008 (or March 2009?) and was completed on 22nd July 2011 (source). The construction of the 3rd section (7.9km) began in December 2011 (source) and is announced to be opened in 1st half-year 2017 (source). The latter should be completed soon (early 2016) but there's an issues about the last 200m (A46 interchange) because a bidder has complaint (source / source).

The construction period of the 18km long B56n is about 10 years: May 2007 - 1st half-year 2017.

1st section: 1.5 years
2nd section: 2.5-3 years
3rd section: 5.5 years
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News about two Autobahn tunnel projects in northern Germany:

Elbe tunnel, A20: AD Drochtersen (A26) – Glücksstadt 10.8km (2020? to 2025?) – projectmap (tunnel length: 5671m; plan approval order: December 2014/March 2015)

The hearing at the Bundesverwaltungsgericht (Federal Administrative Court) about the appeals against the Schlewsig-Holstein plan approval order will be on 11th/12th April 2016. The hearing about the Lower Saxony plan approval order will be on 25th/26th October 2016. The final decision is expected to be announced in November 2016. Nevertheless, the tender procedure will begin in late 2017 at the earliest. Source.


Weser tunnel, A281: AS Bremen-Gröpelingen – AS Bremen-Seehausen 4.9km (Late 2017? to 2021?) – projectmap (tunnel length: 1095m; plan approval order: June 2010)

The Bundesverfassungsgericht (Federal Constitutional Court) has rejected the appeals, see press release. Two house owner had complaint because their houses are planned to be demolished.
The transportation senator of Bremen is glad about the decision and will immediately start with the next steps. The Federal Ministry of Transport has already provided the funding for land acquisition, see press release. The citizens' initiative wants to accept the court decision, see news article.
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"Feinstaub-Alarm" (particulate matter alarm) was annouced in Stuttgart today, see press release.

Citizens of Stuttgart should not drive cars with combustion engines from midnight on Sunday night and they should not operate stoves which are only used for convenience reason from Sunday 6PM. The alarm will last minimum 2 days. They should use public transportation, go by bicycle or foot or should work at home.

If the voluntary way does not work, prohibitions could be introduced in 2017/18.

The new alarm system was introduced last Monday, see press release. The limit for particulate matter was exceeded 70 times in 2015 but it's only allowed to be exceeded on 35 days/year according to EU law.

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These measures don't help much. The main cause for temporarily higher pollution levels are meteorological (inversion), especially a city like Stuttgart, located in a densely populated valley.

A lot of large cities are working with banning traffic (based on license plates) but the overall effect is pretty small. The car is an easy target, but industrial sources and the widespread usage of 'Kamine' also have a major share of pollution.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 10:48 PM   #8415
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These measures don't help much. The main cause for temporarily higher pollution levels are meteorological (inversion), especially a city like Stuttgart, located in a densely populated valley.
I disagree. Main cause for pollution is pollution. You can have all the thermal inversion you want, but if you don't pollute, nothing happens.
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The point is that reducing car traffic on a few days with spikes of pollution due to inversion doesn't have much effect.
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I disagree. Main cause for pollution is pollution. You can have all the thermal inversion you want, but if you don't pollute, nothing happens.
Unless you get cloud from Beijing that then waits and stops on top of you

I've actually experienced similar "extreme air pollution" in Canada, from forest fires coupled with unfortunate weather pattern holding the smoke on top of the city...

e.g. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...ttawa-1.884173
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_2010_Quebec_wildfires
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015...s-toronto.html
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The point is that reducing car traffic on a few days with spikes of pollution due to inversion doesn't have much effect.
On this, I absolutely agree.
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The alarm system is introduced by the city of Stuttgart and the Baden-Württemberg state. Please keep in mind that the current mayor of Stuttgart, Fritz Kuhn, is the first Green mayor of a German major city and that the current prime minister of Baden-Württemberg, Winfried Kretschmann, is the first Green prime minister of a German state. It seems that the Greens want to (re)educate people.....
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