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Old July 2nd, 2016, 03:15 PM   #8761
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Could it be a topic that stretching roadworks over several years does also stretch the costs over several years' budgets? I mean, German local administrators are "smart" enough to think that shortsighted, I could imagine
Of course! That's what German authorities do - including the Federal Ministry of Transport. It's perfect to get nice news article (thanks to Minister... thanks to member of parliament...) when construction works are funded, when preliminary construction works begin, when constructions works begin, when the groundbreaking ceremony takes place, when construction site is visited when the new road is opened for traffic, when the new road is offiicially opened,...
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Old July 2nd, 2016, 03:20 PM   #8762
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It's announced or expected that the construction of the following new motorway sections will begin in 2016:
A94: north of AS Malching – north of AS Kirchham 6.0km (August 2016 to 2021/22) – projectmap (BY; plan approval: 2006 – March 2013 (stopped); March 2013 – August 2015; immediate enforcement ordered; funded)

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The A94 construction start was scheduled today, see press release. The 6km section costs 81 million € and includes a 450m artificial tunnel. The construction of the first bridge will begin in August 2016. The clearance works for the bridge are already completed. It's planned to open the section together with the 12.5km section b/n Kirchham and Pocking (A3) which does not yet have building permit.
Construction works of the first bridge already began. The official groundbreaking ceremony wil be on 26th July 2016. Source. It's planned to open both sections (see above) in 2022.
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Old July 4th, 2016, 03:21 PM   #8763
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I recently drove on road 191 from Celle to Uelzen and Luneburg and I saw a sign on a house about the locals wanting a motorway to be built.

Is there a plan to extend the A39 from Luneburg to Uelzen and connect it at Wolfsburg?
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Old July 4th, 2016, 04:17 PM   #8764
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Yes it is in planning phase.

If you can read German: http://www.strassenbau.niedersachsen...85&_psmand=135
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Old July 5th, 2016, 01:00 AM   #8765
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Of course! That's what German authorities do - including the Federal Ministry of Transport. It's perfect to get nice news article (thanks to Minister... thanks to member of parliament...) when construction works are funded, when preliminary construction works begin, when constructions works begin, when the groundbreaking ceremony takes place, when construction site is visited when the new road is opened for traffic, when the new road is offiicially opened,...
The Federal Minister of Transport, Mr. Dobrindt, has recently (today?) visited the western tube of the Oberau bypass tunnel. Source.
Mr. Dobrindt was already at the groundbreaking ceremony last September. Source.

I think the eastern tube should be visited too....
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Old July 5th, 2016, 08:23 PM   #8766
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An urban bridge across the Wertach River in Augsburg collapsed today during construction works.

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Old July 5th, 2016, 08:37 PM   #8767
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It is too often. These bridge collapses in DE.
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Old July 5th, 2016, 10:10 PM   #8768
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An urban bridge across the Wertach River in Augsburg collapsed today during construction works.
An artictle about the accident : http://www.br.de/nachrichten/schwabe...sturz-100.html
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Old July 5th, 2016, 10:34 PM   #8769
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I think this will have some repercussions in the German construction sector. The bridge was deemed beyond repair in 2010, and the strength of the beams was specifically named as a problem. They built temporary supports to keep it in service until replacement started this year. They actually did static calculations for this work with the crane before construction started. The bridge weight was already reduced because the deck was partially removed. But it could have jeopardized the bridge's structural integrity.

And despite those earlier strengthening measures and calculations - it collapsed. And there are thousands - often municipal - bridges in Germany in a similar condition. It's your typical post-war urban bridge, they exist everywhere.
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Old July 6th, 2016, 12:59 PM   #8770
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Everything is ok. No need to panic. This bridge collapsed during demolition works.

It was just a bad idea by the two workers to drive a 30 t machine on an old and not stable bridge.

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Old July 6th, 2016, 03:55 PM   #8771
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It looks like the A1 Rhine Bridge at Leverkusen won't reopen for light trucks up to 7.5 tons by the end of the year as was hoped. A 400 mm new crack has been discovered at the cable anchoring point.

The bridge has been closed to all traffic over 3.5 tons since June 2014 due to the extremely poor condition. They are rapidly planning a new bridge across the Rhine.

The crack will be repaired in August, which requires a full closure of the bridge to prevent it from swinging and interfering with the repairs.

The Rhine Bridge at Leverkusen is a cable-stayed bridge and opened in 1965. It was the final segment of the Autobahn Ring Road around Köln (Cologne) to open, making the city one of the first in Europe with a motorway ring.

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Old July 7th, 2016, 09:25 PM   #8772
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Great, I use this bridge every day.

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Old July 13th, 2016, 03:53 PM   #8773
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There is a frequent occurance of severe truck crashes in Germany. Many of these crashes involve one or more trucks driving into traffic jams, often at roadworks, with full speed, resulting in fatalities, damage and long delays.

12 July: family of 3 killed when a truck crushes a car + caravan on A7 near Kassel.
8 July: Truck crashes into traffic jam on A60 near Mainz, catches fire. Truck cabin decimated, driver killed
7 July: Three trucks crash into traffic jam on A14 near Halle.
7 July: 77-year old trucker crashes into stauende on A61 near Mörstadt
7 July: concrete mixer drives into traffic jam on A73.
7 July: the number of truck crashes rises 'dramatically' in the state of Sachsen-Anhalt 'häufig am stauende'.
6 July: Fatal truck accident on A2 near Irxleben, truck cabin completely detached from truck, drove into traffic jam.
5 July: Truck crashes into traffic jam on A6 near Mannheim, truck driver killed
4 July: 11 vehicles crash into traffic jam on A6 near Mannheim, 2 fatalities, 14 injured (exact same location as 5 July accident)
4 July: truck crashes into traffic jam on A57 near Neuss.

Now, Germany is a large country with a high volume of trucks, but this an important issue. The impact of trucks driving into traffic jams is almost always severe, often with fatalities or injuries and lot of damage and delays. Nearly all of these fatal truck crashes are associated with traffic jams at workzones.

Perhaps they should secure traffic flow leading into workzones better. They sometimes utilize mobile traffic management gantries on locations without permanent active traffic management in the Netherlands. Perhaps this is something for Germany to consider.
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Old July 13th, 2016, 10:15 PM   #8774
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There is a frequent occurance of severe truck crashes in Germany...
A very good idea

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Perhaps 77 years old man should not be a truck driver.
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Perhaps 77 years old man should not be a truck driver.
I agree.

I don't want to be discriminating against old people and senior citizens.....but let's face it, it's better for 70+ year old person to just stay at home and enjoy retirement rather than doing driving for many hours each day.

The human body ages through time and the physicality of such a task would be too much for anyone in that age....
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Truck drivers over the retirement age appears to be relatively common. There was another crash on A1 near Hollenstedt yesterday where a 73-year old trucker crashed into a traffic jam.

Ein laut ersten Polizeiangaben 73-Jähriger übersah gegen 16.15 Uhr offenbar das Stauende und landete mit seinem Brummi im Heck eines vor ihm fahrenden Lasters. Die Wucht des Aufpralls, war so groß, dass der Trucker in seinem Führerhaus eingeklemmt wurde.
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Old July 14th, 2016, 07:51 PM   #8778
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The human body ages through time and the physicality of such a task would be too much for anyone in that age....
Under European-wide rules, above age 50 (unless you got it after you turned 45, then from that date) all driver licenses for truck drivers have to be extended with a medical check up at least every 5 years.

Some countries - not Germany, of course - have tighter rules on top of that, e.g. in Austria from age 60 a checkup is required every 2 years.
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Perhaps they should secure traffic flow leading into workzones better.
Such accidents with trucks plowing in the back end of a traffic jam rarely happen at construction sites, or rather near where traffic jams at construction sites* are predicted and can be managed; in fact you'll usually see trucks starting to actively "corral" traffic into construction sites themselves as soon as you see the first warning signs a couple km ahead.

* of course such jams will often get much longer during rush hour.
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Old July 14th, 2016, 08:09 PM   #8780
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Under European-wide rules, above age 50 (unless you got it after you turned 45, then from that date) all driver licenses for truck drivers have to be extended with a medical check up at least every 5 years.

Some countries - not Germany, of course - have tighter rules on top of that, e.g. in Austria from age 60 a checkup is required every 2 years.
In Italy also licenses for car drivers (B category) need to be renewed every 5 years after the age of 50 (it's every 10 years before), and every year after the age of 80.
However medical tests aren't that serious (except of elderly people), unless one has some health issues, they only check wether you need glasses or not.
Some time ago a 93 years old Austrian guy was caught driving his car wrong way on A23 in Italy. His license was valid until 2023.
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